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Alpha Exchange

Randy CohenPEO Partners

Professor of Finance and Entrepreneurship at Harvard Business School and co-founder of PEO Partners, which builds liquid private equity portfolios. A Chicago PhD of 1998, he has taught investment management at HBS and MIT and first argued for replicating buyouts with public factors in a 2000 talk at HBS.

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Dean Curnutt

28 October 2026 · 58m 10s · 2 clips below

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    Randy Cohen argues the companies a buyout fund can borrow against carry, by necessity, the five Fama-French factors: high profit, high payout, low multiple, low risk and small size.

    On his arithmetic, roughly two-thirds debt at something like 9 to 12% costs 6 to 8% of enterprise value a year in interest, which a company bought at 30 times earnings cannot pay and a company reinvesting everything for growth would have to divert that money to meet. Cohen adds that even a buyout veteran who scorns academic finance is placed on all five factors by the financing model itself.

    3m 23s · from 33:46

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    Randy Cohen expects a listed copy of buyout funds to trail them by 3 to 6% a year before fees and argues it can still finish level or ahead after them.

    On his account a public replicator gives up private equity's inside information and its operational gains net of the control premium, and pays for hedges so a 20% market fall does not show as 25 to 30% beside private equity's reported 10%. Against that, Cohen cites a CalPERS study putting private equity's fees above 700 basis points a year, which leaves a vehicle charging about 100 room for a gross shortfall of up to 6%.

    3m 57s · from 38:09

Unsupervised Learning

Erik BernhardssonModal

Co-founder and chief executive of Modal, the AI compute platform, which has grown from about $2 million of annual run-rate revenue to more than $1 billion in three years. He spent seven years at Spotify.

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Jacob Effron and Patrick Chase

28 October 2026 · 59m 27s · 2 clips below

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    Erik Bernhardsson puts the upfront payment on a GPU commitment at about 30%, so a lab that raised $1 billion can sign for roughly $3 billion of compute.

    The rest falls due month by month over the following years, which he calls implicit leverage: the lab depends on raising again to meet its GPU bills. If venture funding pulls back he expects a secondary market, with labs reselling capacity or turning into neoclouds as Mistral has to a degree, and notes that buyers justify large purchases by assuming the chips can always be resold.

    2m 24s · from 45:54

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    Erik Bernhardsson calls the neoclouds sound but undifferentiated leasing businesses whose growth is held back by a high cost of capital.

    On his account they lock in customer contracts, borrow against them and pay the debt down, and in many cases GPUs have lasted longer and resold for more than expected, which adds a residual profit; the heavy leverage is why their equity swings with GPU prices. He points out that the three successful hyperscalers, AWS, Azure and Google Cloud, all sit inside cash-generating public companies with cheap capital.

    2m 46s · from 43:01

Animal Spirits

Why Baby Boomers Have All the Money | Animal Spirits 488

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Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson

28 October 2026 · 1h 9m · 2 clips below

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    US stocks would be up almost 30% this year on earnings growth alone if the forward P/E had held where it began the year, a chart on Animal Spirits shows.

    The hosts suspect the falling multiple is the market declining to believe the AI earnings will last, and note on Goldman Sachs charts that profits sit about as far above their 30-year trend as at any point since the 1990s. Their reason the old reversion may not come: median net margins have risen from under 6% in the 1990s to 13%, because competing with today's dominant firms takes a trillion dollars of capital.

    4m 22s · from 0:45

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    Animal Spirits finds no sign yet of AI in US aggregate labour data, with initial jobless claims at 194,000, the fourth-lowest reading since the 1960s.

    The first traces sit below the national figures: Microsoft has offered early retirement to 60,000 of about 220,000 staff, roughly what the hosts reckon it hired this decade, and Goldman Sachs reports a statistically significant negative correlation between the share of US firms adopting AI and employment growth. The hosts' explanation for the gap is firms doing more with the same headcount, revenue outgrowing staff, which has yet to reach national productivity figures.

    4m 25s · from 30:08

In Good Company (Norges Bank)

Bill AckmanPershing Square

Bill Ackman founded Pershing Square, which runs one concentrated portfolio of 12 to 14 companies with nine investment professionals in a firm of 48. The host puts its compounding at 16% over a long record.

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Nicolai Tangen

28 October 2026 · 53m 23s · 2 clips below

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    Bill Ackman says a high-quality company that disappoints can now lose 30% to 40% on a single miss, where it once might have fallen 3% or 4%.

    He puts it down to indexation shrinking the float that trades and to more short-term money running on borrowed funds, which together make the occasional durable growth company cheap for a while. Activism has changed alongside it on his account: Pershing Square's last campaign was in 2016, and CEOs now generally write to thank it for taking a stake.

    1m 45s · from 17:00

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Pershing Square pays its nine investment professionals on the whole portfolio's result and on no individual P&L, so nobody gains from getting an idea into the book.

    Ackman sets it against the usual hedge fund, where an analyst's only incentive is to get capital allocated to their ideas, which leans them towards wanting an idea in. At Pershing Square two people do the deep work on a name, two oversee it, and the rest have done none before the team decides together.

    3m 04s · from 9:10

Monetary Matters

Vincent DeluardStoneX

Director of global macro strategy at StoneX, where he writes a weekly report for clients; he had just returned from meetings with pension fund clients in Latin America.

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Max Wiethe

27 October 2026 · 1h 8m · 3 clips below

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    Vincent Deluard counts a bit more than $300 billion of fiscal support running into US corporate margins this year, about 10% of roughly $3 trillion in profits.

    Deluard names three channels: tariff refunds that companies kept after raising prices when the tariffs hit, about $150 billion of individual tax refunds spent over the summer, and corporate tax collections down 50% in two years under full expensing of capital spending. On his figures perhaps half of the roughly 30% third-quarter earnings growth estimate came from policies he expects to lapse after the midterms.

    3m 15s · from 11:37

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    Vincent Deluard of StoneX counts about two-thirds of US stocks below their 200-day moving average with the index about 2% from its all-time high.

    Consumer names including Nike, Harley-Davidson, Lennar and McDonald's are down 50% to 60% or more, damage he doubts has been seen in a Fed hiking cycle, and after six years arguing nominal growth was underrated he now thinks the market too sanguine on earnings, on the economy and on the Fed's ability to raise rates.

    1m 24s · from 1:05

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    Vincent Deluard puts France's extra interest bill at about €20 billion a year, as roughly €400 billion of debt issued near zero rolls into yields close to 5%.

    That is half the €50 billion deficit cut the budget targets, a budget he doubts will pass, and with growth that is mostly inflation, rising rates widen the deficit and the deficit pushes rates higher. On his account France traded only 30 to 40 basis points over Germany for years, on the size of its bond market and its core status, despite metrics closer to Italy's or Spain's.

    3m 39s · from 30:08

Top Traders Unplugged

Mark Rzepczynski

Mark Rzepczynski co-hosts the show's Systematic Investor series and researches trend following, reading markets through who trades them and the rules they trade under.

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Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

27 October 2026 · 1h 14m · 2 clips below

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    Mark Rzepczynski cites research showing major hedge funds' 13F stock positions growing more alike as their quants adopt the same machine-learning methods.

    A survey he cites puts that toolkit in use at maybe over 90% of hedge fund managers, many taught transformer and boosting techniques at a few universities, so each signal is crowded out sooner and firms spend more compute looking for the next. He argues trend following may have no comparable half-life, because it waits for dislocations and accepts the dry spells.

    4m 18s · from 1:01:56

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    Mark Rzepczynski says commodity prices go parabolic on inventories rather than output, because a buyer facing a stockout will pay almost any price to keep running.

    He points to European winter inventories below the levels of the last five years, where a cold winter brings that risk, and to cocoa a couple of years ago. Hoarding ahead of a feared shortage creates it, and the markets most exposed are those with no close substitute, as diesel is for a diesel truck.

    3m 31s · from 57:36

Big Technology Podcast

Alex StamosCognition

Alex Stamos is chief information security officer at Cognition, which helps large companies refactor old software, and has taught at Stanford.

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Big Technology Podcast, with Ranjan Roy of Margins

27 October 2026 · 1h 2m · 2 clips below

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    Google Cloud grew quarterly revenue 82% year on year to $24.8 billion, against 42% growth for Azure on $29.4 billion.

    If those rates persist for maybe another year or two, the show argues, second place changes hands, with AWS still ahead at $42.2 billion growing 37%. The catch it names is that capacity sold to customers is capacity taken from the company's own research, on build decisions made two years before.

    1m 36s · from 14:17

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    Meta warned in a regulatory filing that rivals' capital raises have made fundraising increasingly hard, so it will raise early before competitors absorb the market's available capital.

    The show reads it as the first sign that money, not chips, may become the binding limit on the AI build, with Meta's infrastructure spending guidance now $825 billion against $700 billion in July and its shares down 9% on the week. The hosts add that SpaceX found the yields on a $40 billion debt raise higher than expected.

    2m 48s · from 22:34

Invest Like the Best

Cliff Sosin

Cliff Sosin runs a concentrated portfolio of about five positions, roughly 80% of it in Carvana and about 5% in Meta.

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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

27 October 2026 · 1h 11m · 2 clips below

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    Cliff Sosin argues that once intelligence is cheap and everywhere, the businesses worth owning are those holding its complements: data, attention, physical proximity, scale and regulatory capture.

    His test is to assume every competitor and customer has excellent intelligence and ask what is left of the business. Agents that optimise around the clock hurt firms whose margin depends on customers not bothering to shop around, and software that amounts to crystallised intelligence, while a small firm with data and attention but a thin engineering team gains.

    3m 10s · from 6:34

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    Cliff Sosin sketches AI agents handing whole streets to the lowest-cost garbage collector, because an agent will switch a household to save 50 cents a month where its owner would not bother.

    His spectrum runs from decisions people will happily delegate, such as chasing the best insured deposit rate, to ones they will not, such as choosing a sweater. Where judgement can be delegated the first effect is a move to the cheapest provider; the second, he suggests, is that route density lets that provider cut price again and roll up the street.

    3m 01s · from 34:57

Insightful Investor

Jim CareyStone Point Capital

Co-chief executive of Stone Point Capital, an alternative investment firm focused on financial services with more than $80 billion under management at the end of July 2026. He and his partners have built it over nearly 30 years, from about 10 people to more than 200.

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Insightful Investor

27 October 2026 · 47m 28s · 3 clips below

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    Jim Carey of Stone Point Capital treats exceptionally high growth in a financial services business as a warning sign, because it often means a product is being underpriced.

    He says buying for growth in the sector has led to some bad investment outcomes, and Stone Point looks for complexity instead: assets others will not spend the work on, where fewer bidders let it, in many cases, either earn a higher return for understanding them or build structure around the downside.

    1m 56s · from 7:57

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    Stone Point Capital credits the owner's control of when to sell for turning deals it judged overpaid, once underwater with debt trading at 50 cents, into very good money.

    Jim Carey calls that control an option private markets offer that is hard to value, and the result a holding period bailout. What keeps the option, on his account, is a capital structure light enough that lenders cannot take the keys at the wrong time; Stone Point still uses debt as a key part of its acquisitions and runs the whole portfolio to the same test.

    2m 04s · from 19:10

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    Stone Point Capital, an active investor in wealth management, calls the 20-times-EBITDA multiples wealth firms have commanded for three to five years hard to sustain.

    Jim Carey would be more cautious about building them into exit models, and puts the assumption down to recency bias, the same habit that has people expecting mortgage rates now above 7% to return to the 3% to 4% of the last 15 years, when his own first mortgage cost 8%. He sees fear of missing out in the 2020 to 2022 software rush, which left buyers owning good businesses at prices that, in retrospect, were probably too high.

    1m 59s · from 26:09

Hidden Forces

Paul Kedrosky

Paul Kedrosky has run venture funds with a partner for almost 15 years and covered the 1990s technology boom as an equity research analyst at a major brokerage. He now sells independent market and technology research to a small number of clients, mostly hedge funds and large institutional investors.

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Demetri Kofinas

26 October 2026 · 1h 1m · 2 clips below

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    Paul Kedrosky estimates that AI capital spending has supplied 25% to 60% of US quarterly GDP growth over the last seven or eight quarters.

    That, he argues, hides weakness everywhere else and flatters policies such as tariffs, and it distorts the inflation data behind higher rates. In markets, on his figures, the Magnificent Seven supplied almost 45% of the S&P 500's gains over five years, and the Dow Jones created its transport index in the 19th century when railroads made up about half of the main average.

    4m 20s · from 31:22

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    Paul Kedrosky estimates that close to $10 trillion of data centre spending over four or five years needs $4 trillion to $6 trillion of annual revenue by the early 2030s to earn a reasonable return.

    Money arriving that fast mostly replaces existing outlays, he argues, and the outlay in reach is white-collar pay: the sum is about 40% of the US white-collar market and a little under a quarter of the global one. He calls that at least a quarter of white-collar work repriced, with or without layoffs, and argues the rest cannot keep its old price beside it.

    2m 56s · from 17:11

The Real Eisman Playbook

Benn SteilCouncil on Foreign Relations

Director of International Economics at the Council on Foreign Relations and author of histories of Bretton Woods, the Marshall Plan and Henry Wallace's vice presidency, the archival work behind them including 13,000 pages of FBI files on Harry Dexter White obtained under freedom of information.

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Steve Eisman

26 October 2026 · 49m 42s · 2 clips below

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    Benn Steil puts the share of the Treasury market held by rate-insensitive buyers, mostly central banks, at 43%, down from 76% 20 years ago.

    Each extra dollar of deficit now has to be placed with buyers who need paying for it, so Steil expects an accelerating effect on yields as the investor base worsens alongside the deficit. France is further down the same road: almost all its buyers are rate-sensitive, and nobody holds French bonds by reflex the way banks worldwide hold Treasuries for overnight repo.

    3m 08s · from 22:59

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    Iran's demand to be paid its strait tolls in renminbi or crypto moved payments from SWIFT to China's CIPS, and they moved back when the ceasefire was announced, Benn Steil says.

    On Steil's account, central banks wanting a reserve asset beyond the reach of US dollar sanctions have bought gold rather than other currencies, with China and Russia building and re-domesticating their stocks and the Dutch bringing theirs home from the New York Fed. Gold has proved about as good as the dollar in a crisis, he says, which leaves it the only alternative on offer.

    2m 45s · from 17:28

20VC

Satya NadellaMicrosoft

Satya Nadella is chief executive of Microsoft, where he has worked for 34 years; the company was worth $300 billion when he took over and $3.9 trillion now.

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Harry Stebbings

26 October 2026 · 23m 48s · 1 clip below

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    Satya Nadella says $100 billion training runs will be paid for the way R&D is, out of revenue, so the AI build ultimately depends on world GDP growth inflecting.

    Heavy R&D companies spend roughly 15% to 20% of revenue on it, he notes, and income statements will still show revenue, cost of revenue and profit; power, chips and fabs are long-lead items and nobody knows when supply meets demand. He hopes AI lifts growth above about 2%, with health care, and software, whose demand has proved elastic, as early cases.

    3m 05s · from 16:05

Merryn Talks Money

Steve HouSilicon Data

Head of research at Silicon Data, a firm founded in 2024 that publishes benchmark indices of GPU rental rates and AI token prices, with CME futures and options planned pending CFTC approval. Previously a quantitative researcher on Bloomberg's index research team, working on equity and multi-asset strategy research.

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Merryn Somerset Webb

26 October 2026 · 37m 54s · 1 clip below

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    Silicon Data's index of the effective price paid for AI tokens has fallen by almost half since about the end of May, while GPU rental rates have kept rising.

    Hou's explanation is that everyday use has migrated from frontier models to cheaper ones, as car buyers might move from Mercedes to Corollas, and every agent running on them still consumes compute. He ties the timing, tentatively, to a slowdown some estimates show in Anthropic's revenue growth, now at a $60 billion annualised run rate, and argues that slower growth for competitive reasons would test the trillion-dollar valuations discussed for the labs' IPOs.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    4m 38s · from 7:06

Monetary Matters

Citrini

Citrini runs Citrini Research, which publishes investment research and has an institutional side, and was among the first to argue for the AI hardware trade in 2023, naming SK Hynix before most people had heard of it. His 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis piece was viewed about 100 million times.

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Monetary Matters

25 October 2026 · 1h 27m · 3 clips below

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    Citrini argues that probably every incremental dollar of AI infrastructure spending now comes from equity and debt raised in the markets, where for roughly the trade's first three years most of it came out of hyperscaler operating cash flow.

    On his account that is what made earlier drawdowns safe to ignore: tariff scares and the yen carry unwind came and went while the companies receiving the capex kept improving. A sentiment turn can now shut the funding itself, and he names the number it hangs on: lab revenue underwritten at $500 billion that arrives at $300 billion would be a disaster.

    2m 37s · from 5:13

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    Citrini puts the AI lab revenue built into current estimates at about $1 trillion a year by the end of 2028, a path that needs about $50 billion of new annualised revenue added each month against roughly $13.6 billion now.

    White-collar work has to become the main source of token demand for the next few years, he argues, and its buyers pay per task and take the cheapest model that does the job. Open models' share of net new revenue has gone from about 1% a year ago to 18% on his figures, which is how he reaches the view that too much capex may already be priced in.

    3m 00s · from 20:30

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    Citrini found that AI compressed months of drug-design work into days, while synthesising and testing the designs at contract labs still took months.

    The data that would make models better at biology can only be generated at the speed cells grow, he argues, so the time from idea to experiment compresses while the experiment itself does not.

    1m 25s · from 38:40

Big Technology Podcast

Ethan MollickWharton School

Ethan Mollick is a professor at the Wharton School, writes the One Useful Thing newsletter and is the author of Co-Intelligence and the new Coexistence: The Next Phase of AI. He says he talks regularly to chief executives of large companies and takes no money from the AI labs.

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Big Technology Podcast

25 October 2026 · 1h 3m · 2 clips below

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    Ethan Mollick cites a company that renegotiated a $200 million mainframe data migration plan down to $20 million after breaking up teams around AI.

    He ties it to pulling apart standing teams, putting a senior engineer with a subject expert and a marketing and strategy person on near-impossible projects; other firms add large token budgets. His broader claim is that firms have lost the habit of experimenting with how they organise, after 30 years of leaving that thinking to software vendors and consultants.

    2m 34s · from 13:54

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    Ethan Mollick says code output rose about twentyfold in the studies he cites while products shipped rose about 30%, because organisations have not yet rebuilt around AI.

    His reading is that AI is a single-player tool inside multiplayer organisations: a coder producing a hundred times more code still works in two-week sprints with daily stand-ups and a marketing team, so the extra output queues. The host's Dallas Fed figures show high-exposure jobs gaining more than low-exposure ones, but less than they did around COVID.

    2m 07s · from 1:41

AI 29 October 2026 · 40 clips

Unsupervised Learning

Erik BernhardssonModal

Co-founder and chief executive of Modal, the AI compute platform, which has grown from about $2 million of annual run-rate revenue to more than $1 billion in three years. He spent seven years at Spotify.

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Jacob Effron and Patrick Chase

28 October 2026 · 59m 27s · 3 clips below

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    Erik Bernhardsson now expects GPU rental prices to be higher in 12 months, a view he changed after reading Anthropic's S-1.

    He had expected Anthropic to slow training spending once public; the filing showed him a company profitable enough to have no reason to slow its buying of capacity, and he assumes OpenAI is in a similar position. As the two largest buyers of compute, their continued buying is his case for prices rising.

    1m 19s · from 55:54

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    Erik Bernhardsson says Nvidia's older Hopper H100s are still the most common GPU type on Modal, even as it ramps up Blackwell chips aggressively.

    Only frontier language models need a full node of the newest chips, on his account; smaller and older models, speech, audio and biology workloads run more cost-efficiently on Hoppers, A100s or smaller cards such as the RTX Pro 6000. Memory decides the match, and the usual rule is to pick the cheapest card that holds the model.

    2m 42s · from 16:29

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    Erik Bernhardsson argues that coding agents entrench incumbent software, because models go on recommending the tools in their training data.

    Modal sees it from both sides: retiring a feature now takes far longer, since agents trained on old code still generate calls to it, and Modal tracks which tool an agent picks when asked for help without being named, much as firms once tracked search rankings. He hears of developers choosing React for everything as agents write it well, and calls the result a flywheel.

    2m 04s · from 31:18

Invest Like the Best

Cliff Sosin

Cliff Sosin runs a concentrated portfolio of about five positions, roughly 80% of it in Carvana and about 5% in Meta.

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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

27 October 2026 · 1h 11m · 1 clip below

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    Cliff Sosin argues falling prices eventually shrink a market: Cogent Communications, he believes, carries 30% to 40% of internet traffic on a market value of a few billion dollars.

    Jevons paradox, on his account, describes one stretch of an ordinary demand curve: a market grows as prices fall from very high, peaks, then shrinks once further cuts stop pulling in enough volume. He does not say the market for intelligence will shrink as far as bandwidth's did, only that the build-out case assumes the curve stays on its rising stretch.

    1m 47s · from 20:52

Big Technology Podcast

Alex StamosCognition

Alex Stamos is chief information security officer at Cognition, which helps large companies refactor old software, and has taught at Stanford.

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Big Technology Podcast, with Ranjan Roy of Margins

27 October 2026 · 1h 2m · 1 clip below

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    Alex Stamos says open-weight models would have found the decade-old PHP flaw if OpenAI and Anthropic had not.

    He says he can now reverse-engineer and write exploits on a desktop machine running a modified open-weight model that leaves no logs, so blaming the labs misreads where discovery comes from. His answer is to rewrite much of the internet's software in memory-safe languages, impossible five years ago and now a question of money, model access and the open-source community's willingness.

    2m 16s · from 59:41

Latent Space

Katelyn Lesse, Angela JiangAnthropic

Katelyn Lesse and Angela Jiang are Anthropic's heads of engineering and of product, whose teams run the Claude API and the platform infrastructure behind the company's products; the two worked together earlier at Stripe.

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swyx

27 October 2026 · 1h 46m · 1 clip below

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    Anthropic can no longer buy enough ordinary CPU capacity on demand, and now plans it in advance the way it plans AI accelerators.

    The demand comes from agent sandboxes, the API and product services, and the CI runs that multiply as more code gets written, all drawn from one CPU allocation negotiated with the cloud providers and split inside the company between research and product. The guests say every firm they talk to reports the same.

    2m 09s · from 53:33

Hidden Forces

Paul Kedrosky

Paul Kedrosky has run venture funds with a partner for almost 15 years and covered the 1990s technology boom as an equity research analyst at a major brokerage. He now sells independent market and technology research to a small number of clients, mostly hedge funds and large institutional investors.

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Demetri Kofinas

26 October 2026 · 1h 1m · 1 clip below

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    Paul Kedrosky says something like 70% to 80% of frontier model usage has come from software engineers, an early-adopter group that tells little about how everyone else will use or pay for AI.

    Coding is expansive, an eight-word prompt returning a large body of code, while much white-collar use is compressive: a 30-page research report cut to what matters. In his blind tests ordinary users could not tell a frontier model from a lesser one, so a premium for the newest model loses its buyers just as China sells tokens near cost about eight months behind the US frontier.

    3m 16s · from 22:14

20VC

Satya NadellaMicrosoft

Satya Nadella is chief executive of Microsoft, where he has worked for 34 years; the company was worth $300 billion when he took over and $3.9 trillion now.

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Harry Stebbings

26 October 2026 · 23m 48s · 1 clip below

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    Satya Nadella expects most AI token usage to run on commodity models, open-weight or cheap closed ones, once a task's frontier saturates.

    His reasoning is that a firm training on its own traces does not need the latest release for a problem that has not changed, and may pay top prices only while its evaluation keeps moving. Microsoft's Copilot already routes work to cheaper proprietary systems alongside downloadable ones, and he expects heavy price competition.

    1m 54s · from 7:04

Big Technology Podcast

Dan PrimackAxios

Dan Primack is the business editor at Axios and writes its Pro Rata newsletter.

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Big Technology Podcast

26 October 2026 · 26m 57s · 1 clip below

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    Anthropic earned $2.28 of revenue for every dollar of compute on the latest figures, up from 40 cents in the first quarter of 2025.

    Primack argues the spend side decides whether these become viable businesses: if chips and models get much more efficient, Anthropic's compute bill falls as a share of revenue even while it keeps rising in dollars. He adds that the company is still unprofitable and is listing because it needs the money.

    1m 35s · from 16:30

Investment 25 October 2026 · 42 clips

Top Traders Unplugged

Jesper Koll

Jesper Koll has lived in Japan since the mid-1980s and has been head of research and chief strategist at JP Morgan and Merrill Lynch. He works with an activist fund in Japan and advises the Governor of Tokyo and, at times, the finance minister.

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Alan Dunne

24 October 2026 · 1h 3m · 2 clips below

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    Jesper Koll says Japan's private sector has saved 140 yen for every 100 yen of public debt taken on over the past 20 years.

    On his account a debt crisis comes to a country that runs balance of payments deficits and must fight for capital, as the UK does, while Japanese banks have excess deposits. The squeeze he concedes is fiscal: servicing the debt takes just under a quarter of the prime minister's budget, and rising rates tighten it.

    1m 58s · from 10:37

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    Jesper Koll finds only 37% of Japan's listed companies earn most of their revenue in the sector they are listed under, against about 80% in the US.

    Koll's driver of change is age: over the past 18 months departing chief executives of quoted firms averaged 67 and their successors 52, a generation without the bubble-era pride and readier to ask why a company keeps eight divisions when three make money. Add labour scarcity and a political push to make assets work harder, and he sees whole industries opening to consolidation.

    3m 28s · from 52:34

The Cognitive Revolution

Zvi Mowshowitz, Evan Conrad and Lonis HamailiSF Compute, Cambrian

Evan Conrad is co-founder and chief executive of SF Compute, which operates GPU clusters for their owners and runs a market where compute contracts are bought and resold. Lonis Hamaili is managing partner of Cambrian, a fund built on the thesis that the physical supply chain behind AI will capture more value than the labs; Zvi Mowshowitz writes about frontier AI at Don't Worry About the Vase.

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Nathan Labenz and Prakash Narayanan

24 October 2026 · 1h 28m · 1 clip below

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    SF Compute's Evan Conrad says almost no AI lab has the credit that compute lenders underwrite, since a lender cannot value a GPU cluster it repossesses.

    Conrad traces the three- to five-year terms and large deposits to that gap: lenders and clouds want an investment-grade tenant such as Meta or Google, and a lab that is not one struggles unless it raises enough to prepay a three-year contract in cash. On his account the giant pre-revenue rounds are survivorship, and without the collateral market his firm is building, AI start-ups go the way of new chip fabs, priced out by capex.

    3m 43s · from 41:58

20VC

Naveen RaoUnconventional AI

Founder and chief executive of Unconventional AI, an AI hardware start-up whose last round valued it close to $5 billion. He previously founded Nervana Systems, acquired by Intel, and co-founded MosaicML, acquired by Databricks for $1.3 billion, where he then served as VP of AI.

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24 October 2026 · 1h 13m · 2 clips below

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    Naveen Rao says AI data centres have so far been powered from the US grid's idle headroom, about 900 gigawatts of average output against a peak capacity of 1.2 to 1.3 terawatts.

    On his account a gigawatt of new capacity costs about $50 billion to build, more than the $20 to $30 billion of a semiconductor fab, where the headroom used so far was what could be had quickly. He sets that against China, which built six times faster for 20 years and passed total US capacity, he thinks in 2023.

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    Naveen Rao says the behind-the-meter deals he hears of show data centres already paying more per kilowatt hour than other grid users.

    He expects the grid's spare capacity to run out within a few years and puts US new build at maybe 10 gigawatts a year, which he prices at half a trillion dollars. Data centres can outbid other users, on his rough figure, because compute sells for about five times the cost of the electricity in it, leaving room to pay 30% to 40% more.

    4m 12s · from 4:52

Excess Returns

Ted MortonsonBaird

Technology strategist at Baird who has covered the sector for close to three decades and, on his own account, speaks with about a hundred of the leading institutional technology portfolio managers. A Naval Academy graduate, he flew for the US Navy.

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Jack Forehand and Justin Carbonneau

24 October 2026 · 1h 4m · 2 clips below

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    Ted Mortonson says the tech portfolio managers he speaks to would generally have to sell holdings they like to buy a cluster of large AI listings, since they keep no more than 4% of their portfolios in cash.

    He counts about 20 candidates, Anthropic, OpenAI and Databricks among them, with five large IPOs already postponed, and expects strain only if they arrive within a quarter or two. He adds that these managers will not pay up to give venture and private equity backers their exit, and that allocations will probably be concentrated in 20 to 30 specialist funds.

    3m 46s · from 35:09

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    Ted Mortonson says most of the AI infrastructure suppliers he follows can deliver only about 70% of contracted compute demand, with the other 30% going into backlog.

    His case is that the build-out needs both the equity and the debt windows to stay open through another one to two years of capex and negative free cash flow, because the infrastructure earns its return only with enterprise adoption. He puts Anthropic's likely raise at $80 billion to $100 billion and wants asset managers such as Apollo, BlackRock and Blackstone, the banks and the government sharing the debt.

    2m 07s · from 29:35

Odd Lots

Richard MottNorth Pond

Richard Mott has owned North Pond, a farm-to-table restaurant in Chicago's Lincoln Park, since it opened in 1997, and owns Spark Shared Kitchen, a catering facility and incubator for food businesses. He started in 1981 with a coffee shop at the University of Chicago business school and grew it into a chain of more than 20 campus shops.

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Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal

24 October 2026 · 48m 45s · 1 clip below

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    Richard Mott says wine has fallen to 24% of North Pond's sales in the last 18 months, after holding at 33% to 34% for 28 years.

    On Mott's numbers an average bottle, at about $110, earns about the same margin as a $130 five-course dinner that takes nine or ten cooks to make, yet costs two minutes of a waiter's time. He puts the fall down to younger guests drinking less, health and cannabis alternatives, and has added a non-alcoholic cocktail menu and is seeking approval for THC drinks.

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    2m 37s · from 30:15

a16z

Andy JassyAmazon

Chief executive of Amazon since 2021, having joined the company 29 years ago as an assistant product manager; Amazon expects about $220 billion of capex in 2026, and AWS grew 36.7% last quarter on a $169 billion annual run rate.

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Erik Torenberg and Ben Horowitz

23 October 2026 · 1h 0m · 1 clip below

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    Amazon builds data centre shells two years ahead of use but orders servers only months ahead, against customer demand it can already see.

    Jassy puts server and networking gear at about three years to break even on a useful life of five to six years, against deals that mostly run five years, while the shell is a one-off asset lasting about 30 years. Building that many sites at once pulls free cash flow down in the early years, before the later sites are monetised.

    2m 29s · from 13:19

The Meb Faber Show

Vincent DeluardStoneX

Vincent Deluard is Director of Global Macro Strategy at StoneX, a Fortune 100 firm active across stocks, bonds, futures, options and commodities whose desk trades with Latin American pension funds and institutions.

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Meb Faber

23 October 2026 · 1h 0m · 3 clips below

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    Vincent Deluard finds the average UK defined benefit pension fund has cut domestic shares from 50% of its assets 20 years ago to 5%, on UK statistics office survey data.

    He puts it down to ageing schemes moving from shares to bonds, which he thinks they did by selling the home market and keeping overseas equities, after foreign investors had already left following Brexit. With the UK about 2% of global market capitalisation on his figure, below its share of world GDP, he argues it is ahead of Europe's debt cycle, having had its Truss moment, and would gain from a eurozone crisis.

    2m 20s · from 42:58

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    Growth in US personal income tax collections has slowed from 8 to 9% at the start of the year to about 5%, which Vincent Deluard takes as his gut feel for inflation.

    On his reading most workers are making no real progress, official real wages have now fallen for four months, and consumption has held up because households are drawing on investment accounts and 401(k)s, which he likens to the home-equity withdrawals of 2006 and 2007. Widening consumer credit spreads, he says, argue against reading higher yields as a growth story.

    2m 11s · from 7:37

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    Vincent Deluard puts the oil price the world economy actually pays at $150 to $200 a barrel, once refining margins, freight and insurance are added to crude delivered in Asia.

    Two buffers, on his account, have held crude below what a months-long Hormuz closure would imply: global inventories with US strategic reserve releases, and collapsed Chinese buying. Both are running out, he says, with the reserve near its operating minimum and China's August imports picking up, while Chinese producer prices up 5 to 6% and a rising yuan now export inflation.

    2m 28s · from 14:38

Forward Guidance

The Only Way Out Is Through | Weekly Roundup

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Felix Jauvin and Quinn Thompson

23 October 2026 · 56m 46s · 2 clips below

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    Forward Guidance's hosts put Brent's premium over US crude at $13 to $14 a barrel, up from $2 to $4 before the war.

    Part of the gap is supply chains, but they would not be surprised if some of it is the market front-running a US export ban widening from refined products to crude, with the Strategic Petroleum Reserve down to about 70 days of demand, its lowest in over 20 years and roughly a sixteenth the size of China's. On their account each new reserve release and political reassurance has been met with a higher price.

    2m 13s · from 14:25

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    Forward Guidance's hosts argue that freight costs this high may be capping crude prices somewhat, which would leave room for oil to rise if shipping eases.

    A buyer pays for a delivered barrel, $200 in their hypothetical, and a large freight charge takes a bigger slice of it, cutting what can be bid for the crude itself. They call it a logistics story as much as a supply one: the world has thousands of tankers but few very large crude carriers, and losing a small share of those tightens freight quickly.

    2m 11s · from 40:01

All-In

Nikesh AroraPalo Alto Networks

Chief executive of Palo Alto Networks. He hosted a gathering of chief information officers the week before the show and says his company runs 10 to 20 megawatts of AI inference.

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Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya and David Friedberg

23 October 2026 · 1h 43m · 1 clip below

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    Chamath Palihapitiya estimates that 1% of companies account for 90% of AI token spending, most of it from unprofitable venture-backed startups.

    On the hosts' account the money runs in a loop: pension funds and foundations fund venture firms, startups spend it on AI, and the revenue that shows helps them raise again, without the profitable business that sat under early cloud. Ramp's chief economist found the estimate broadly right, and Ramp's unpublished data shows top spenders moving toward their own GPUs and open models; one large US bank has built six data centres of its own.

    5m 13s · from 1:49

The Real Eisman Playbook

AI Narrative Switched, Debt Yields Spike | The Weekly Wrap

The Weekly Wrap is Eisman's solo review of the week's markets and earnings.

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Steve Eisman

23 October 2026 · 21m 58s · 2 clips below

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    Steve Eisman says the jump in CoreWeave's cost of debt, from 9% to 15%, drove the AI sell-off of the past two weeks more than any earnings result.

    On his account the build-out has turned much of tech from a capital-light into a capital-heavy business. The hyperscalers can fund it, but neoclouds such as CoreWeave and Nebius lack strong balance sheets, and CoreWeave would raise new debt, if it can, at 15%, a level at which he believes data centre economics do not work; bond buyers want the arithmetic, and CoreWeave's debt price is his gauge.

    2m 33s · from 3:01

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    Meta has agreed to spend about $825 billion in the future on leases and contracts, mostly for AI computing power.

    Steve Eisman reads the commitment as why the stock fell after strong results: revenue rose 26% to $64.6 billion and the average price per ad rose 14%, which he says seems to show Meta's AI products helping advertising, but costs rose 68% and on his account Meta no longer has positive cash flow to carry the commitment. He also thinks agentic apps such as Meta's Muse have no moats.

    1m 29s · from 15:04

Masters in Business (Ritholtz)

Robin WigglesworthFinancial Times

Editor of FT Alphaville, the Financial Times finance blog, and author of A Fabulous Debt, a history of the bond market, and Trillions (2021) on index funds. He covered capital markets for the FT through the eurozone crisis before heading its markets team in New York.

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Barry Ritholtz

23 October 2026 · 1h 24m · 2 clips below

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    Robin Wigglesworth puts bond issuance by the AI hyperscalers at around $500 billion this year, against roughly $200 billion last year.

    His worry is how the build-out is paid for: capex booms financed with debt have historically ended badly, and rail and cable at least left assets that outlast a GPU. He is not alarmed yet, because the issuers still generate heavy cash and the rating agencies are reading through to their off-balance-sheet commitments, with Oracle looking like the weaker member of the group.

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    2m 19s · from 1:04:23

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Robin Wigglesworth puts US federal interest costs at about 3.5% of GDP, below the roughly 5% of GDP at which other countries have historically shown signs of strain.

    He discards debt to GDP as a measure because it says nothing about a country's ability to carry the debt; servicing has risen from about 2.5% a few years ago, and he recalls a CBO projection reaching around 5% in 10 to 12 years. Britain under Thatcher in 1980 turned back at that point, while Canada let it snowball into the mid-1990s.

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    3m 12s · from 1:09:20

The Compound and Friends

Jill SchlesingerCBS News

Emmy and Gracie award-winning business analyst for CBS News, who hosted the syndicated Jill on Money radio show for 15 years. Before media she spent 14 years as co-owner and chief investment officer of an independent investment advisory firm, after starting out trading options in New York.

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Josh Brown and Michael Batnick

23 October 2026 · 1h 24m · 1 clip below

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    Meta reported its first negative free cash flow quarter since 2012, as AI spending outran a business the hosts count among the three most profitable in history.

    On the hosts' reading of the call, ad impressions rose 10% and average price per ad 14% from a year earlier, which they count as AI paying back inside the ad business, while a new share class prepares Meta to raise equity for the build-out with less dilution of Zuckerberg's votes. The stock swung about 14% overnight, from near 750 to 650.

    1m 57s · from 1:04:05

Merryn Talks Money

Sam UnstedBloomberg

Sam Unsted is co-editor of Bloomberg's Markets Today blog and writes on UK stocks, economics, central banks and global markets.

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John Stepek

23 October 2026 · 19m 48s · 1 clip below

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    Bloomberg's Sam Unsted says the AI build-out is probably cracking first at the neoclouds, the heavily indebted data centre operators between the hyperscalers and the model labs.

    Unsted's evidence is a run of failed listings, with Firmus pulling its Australian IPO and a flop in South Korea, and Nscale losing a Microsoft data centre project when, on Unsted's recollection of the week's reporting, more than 80% of its revenue comes from Microsoft and Anthropic. The neoclouds need those listings to shore up their balance sheets, and grid connections are slowing the build.

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    5m 00s · from 12:02

Latent Space

Erik BernhardssonModal

Erik Bernhardsson is chief executive of Modal, which rents GPU capacity from almost 25 clouds, mostly on three-year terms, and resells it on demand to AI companies. He spent seven years at Spotify, most of them building its music recommendation system, and five as chief technology officer of Better.com.

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22 October 2026 · 1h 25m · 2 clips below

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    Erik Bernhardsson says neoclouds grow by pre-selling GPUs they have not yet bought, taking a multi-year contract from a large AI buyer to Wall Street to raise the money for the hardware.

    That is how Nscale reached, on his loose figure, hundreds of billions of dollars of pipeline with barely any capacity, and how the larger neoclouds came to use GPUs as loan collateral. He welcomes the startups building GPU price indices and derivatives, since risk at this scale needs hedging and insurance, but doubts compute becomes a Brent-style traded commodity when chips differ by network, location, storage and reliability.

    3m 20s · from 28:37

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    Erik Bernhardsson worries more about GPU prices collapsing than rising, because a collapse would hurt everyone locked into long supply contracts.

    He does not expect it soon: Nvidia ships several hundred thousand Blackwells a month, anyone paying the top rate can get capacity, and the shortage reads to him partly as a run on the bank, which he says could last anywhere from another 6 to 36 months. Until then the scarcity rent goes mostly to Nvidia and partly to the neoclouds, and Modal's fixed-rate reservations mean it gains while scarcity lasts.

    3m 08s · from 17:57

Hidden Forces

Philipp Carlsson-SzlezakBoston Consulting Group

Global chief economist at Boston Consulting Group, who splits his time between publishing research and advising boards and executives on the global economy. Author of Shocks, Crises and False Alarms (2024) and co-author of the recent paper The Kids Are Alright.

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Demetri Kofinas and Grant Williams

22 October 2026 · 1h 17m · 1 clip below

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    Philipp Carlsson-Szlezak finds incomes and balance sheets at the bottom of the US distribution have strengthened since 2020, so the official data show no downward leg to the K-shaped economy.

    His evidence beyond the indexed quintiles is the last earnings season, strong across virtually every subsector, which a consumer economy carried by a few rich households could not produce. He concedes that a 20% rise on a $20,000 income makes nobody rich overnight, and that a quarter of people see real wages fall in any given year, as they did twenty and ten years ago.

    4m 43s · from 52:15

Dwarkesh Podcast

Chris Auth, Kevin Fischer, Jack Kavalieros, Tyler Osborn, Pushkar RanadeIntel

Pushkar Ranade is Intel's chief technology officer and Chris Auth leads development of the processes Intel currently manufactures; the others are engineers from Intel's fab, research lab and advanced packaging group, interviewed over a two-day tour of its most advanced fab.

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Dwarkesh Patel

22 October 2026 · 1h 9m · 1 clip below

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    Intel's CTO Pushkar Ranade puts the fixed share of a leading-edge fab's costs at about 80% once it is built, which he says makes foundries probably the purest scale business in advanced manufacturing.

    On his account every extra point of utilisation adds far more to revenue than to cost, and lifting die yield from 60% to 65% or 70% raises output from the same footprint by more than the percentage suggests. The same arithmetic took the industry from about 20 foundries 40 years ago to three at the advanced node, with TSMC shipping upwards of three times Intel's leading-edge wafers.

    1m 49s · from 53:13

MacroVoices

Anas Alhajji and Louis-Vincent GaveEnergy Outlook Advisors; Gavekal

Anas Alhajji founded Energy Outlook Advisors, which publishes an energy newsletter for institutional investors, and had just returned from Riyadh Energy Week. Louis-Vincent Gave is founder and chief executive of Gavekal, which publishes research for institutional investors and runs China and Asian equity and fixed income funds.

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Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna

22 October 2026 · 1h 39m · 2 clips below

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    Louis-Vincent Gave argues France has an emerging-market debt crisis on a budget deficit of 5% of GDP, where the US runs 7% untroubled, because France borrows in a currency it cannot print.

    French tax receipts are already about 44% of GDP against about 24 to 25% in the US, Gave says, so higher taxes would raise less; and most French debt is held by foreigners, for whom owning it has become a career risk after years of the crisis being forecast in the financial press.

    3m 22s · from 49:35

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    Crude oil flows through Hormuz are running at 80 to 90% of pre-conflict levels but refined products only 25 to 35%, Anas Alhajji reports US energy secretary Chris Wright as saying.

    Alhajji grants there is double counting in the crude figure and that some of the statements rest on single nights, but says the products gap is where the diesel shortage sits: output from the Gulf's refineries has not been replaced. He adds that Germany's economy minister told two Riyadh conferences that Germany plans to bring refineries closed under climate policy back online for energy security.

    2m 42s · from 10:52

20VC

Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll

Jason Lemkin is a SaaS investor whose portfolio includes Algolia, Talkdesk, RevenueCat and Salesloft. Rory O'Driscoll is a General Partner at Scale, where he led investments in Bill.com, Box, DocuSign and WalkMe.

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Harry Stebbings

22 October 2026 · 59m 41s · 3 clips below

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    Rory O'Driscoll of Scale says this year's biggest venture rounds are almost certainly priced out of line with public comparables, and only years of fast growth can close the gap.

    His example is a defence contractor: mature at $2 billion of revenue it is worth $8 billion at best, and a run to $20 billion with a line to the Pentagon might justify a venture price, with little help likely from multiple expansion in a richly priced US market. Jason Lemkin's cases are Anduril at $90 billion, about 40 times revenue, and AI-native marketing companies whose listed peers, HubSpot and Klaviyo, trade below three times.

    3m 54s · from 38:46

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    Rory O'Driscoll of Scale reckons a venture firm needs roughly $800 million to $1 billion of fee income before a listing makes sense, because public investors pay for management fees and give carried interest little credit.

    Listed alternative managers trade at four or five times revenue at best, and at a 2% fee that income implies tens of billions under management, a scale he thinks Andreessen Horowitz could reach and few others will. His larger objection is cultural: a listed firm must keep growing assets and launching funds, and is likely to turn more risk-averse in doing so.

    3m 16s · from 50:23

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    Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll expect venture's last five years to end with growth-stage investing out-returning early stage, the reverse of what a rational capital market should pay.

    On the panel's account, $50 million to $100 million seed prices and multi-stage firms squeezing allocations leave a seed fund with $300,000 to $500,000 in a company later valued at $18 billion, too little to move the fund. At the other end, a figure quoted on the show takes SpaceX, Anthropic and OpenAI from about $400 billion combined three years ago to $4 trillion to $5 trillion, nearly all created at the latest stage.

    2m 41s · from 8:06

Trillions (Bloomberg)

Isabelle LeeBloomberg

Isabelle Lee is a markets reporter for Bloomberg Television.

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Eric Balchunas and Joel Weber

22 October 2026 · 18m 04s · 1 clip below

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    UC Investments, the University of California's investment arm, seeded State Street's new 90/10 ETF with $2.5 billion at a fee of 6 basis points.

    The Trillions hosts read it as an access vehicle: the fund is apparently modelled on UC's Blue and Gold endowment pool, an institution that size could probably buy S&P 500 exposure for about 2 basis points, and their guess is that the ETF lets members of the pool get in and out easily. They doubt it catches on more widely, since the ESG ETFs that European pensions backed with about $2 billion, as they recall, did not.

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    4m 23s · from 3:23

All-In

Arvind Krishna and Nikesh Arora

Arvind Krishna speaks for IBM, whose mainframe line he puts at 65 years old. Nikesh Arora runs a cybersecurity company that inspects endpoint traffic for $20 to $30 per device a year and was among a small group given early access to Mythos.

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21 October 2026 · 40m 00s · 1 clip below

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    Arvind Krishna expects enterprises using 500 to 5,000 software vendors to consolidate onto five to 10 platforms as AI replaces the rest.

    His mechanism is distribution cost: as the value of each piece of software falls, it cannot pay for its own sales effort, so spend moves to a few platforms, over six months or six years. He expects software that must be right to one error in 10 to the 15th, the retail-banking database lookup or closing the books, to be harder to replace, and Arora finds the terminal value of most software hard to judge now.

    4m 12s · from 35:16

AI 25 October 2026 · 42 clips

a16z

Andy JassyAmazon

Chief executive of Amazon since 2021, having joined the company 29 years ago as an assistant product manager; Amazon expects about $220 billion of capex in 2026, and AWS grew 36.7% last quarter on a $169 billion annual run rate.

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Erik Torenberg and Ben Horowitz

23 October 2026 · 1h 0m · 1 clip below

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    Amazon says AWS capacity for 2026 is sold out, 2027 is largely sold and a good part of 2028 is already taken.

    Jassy says Amazon will not price out its existing customers to serve labs willing to pay almost anything, and has to split scarce memory between AI accelerators and the core business. He thinks supply constraints will run past 2027, in different components for several years, and says Amazon could spend a lot more than $220 billion and probably still not satisfy all the demand.

    4m 31s · from 23:41

No Priors

Dane KnechtCloudflare

Dane Knecht is chief technology officer of Cloudflare, a company of about 5,000 people whose network sits in front of sites from enterprise customers down to free accounts, which gives it a wide view of attacks across the internet.

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Sarah Guo

23 October 2026 · 41m 23s · 2 clips below

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    Cloudflare says flaws as serious as Log4j, which called all hands on deck at the company perhaps once a year, now arrive weekly.

    Knecht dates the rise in reported vulnerabilities to the last three to six months and says not all of them are made public. He expects more than half of engineering time to go to security over the next 18 months, ending once AI has been through most existing code and found most of the bugs.

    1m 58s · from 1:27

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    Cloudflare emails staff who pass $300 of AI token spend in a day, tells their manager at about $500 and a vice-president at $1,000.

    Knecht says Cloudflare keeps no token leaderboard and judges staff on what they ship, the alerts rarely reach the top tier, and most people who trip them had not noticed and are glad to be told. Staff still choose the model for each task, frontier models for planning and review and possibly open models in between, which he expects to give way to automatic routing with more governance.

    2m 24s · from 27:04

Big Technology Podcast

Alex StamosCognition

Alex Stamos is chief information security officer at Cognition, where helping large companies refactor old software is a big part of the business, and he has taught at Stanford.

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Big Technology Podcast, with Ranjan Roy

23 October 2026 · 26m 36s · 1 clip below

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    Cloudflare counted thousands of attempts to exploit the PHP flaw in the 10 hours before it was announced, hundreds of thousands within two hours of the announcement, and millions since.

    Stamos says the incident response firms that would investigate, Mandiant and CrowdStrike among them, were fully booked before this, leaving companies without their own forensics team on their own. He expects breach notices to arrive over months, many from companies that patched within 48 hours without noticing someone had already got in.

    2m 01s · from 8:46

All-In

Nikesh AroraPalo Alto Networks

Chief executive of Palo Alto Networks. He hosted a gathering of chief information officers the week before the show and says his company runs 10 to 20 megawatts of AI inference.

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Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya and David Friedberg

23 October 2026 · 1h 43m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Nikesh Arora says a model given enough compute cracked the PHP weakness behind this week's attacks, a flaw identified years ago and set aside as impractical.

    Frontier models from OpenAI, Anthropic and probably Google can now find vulnerabilities and chain several into an attack path when given compute and persistence. Once a fix ships, attackers read the patch to work out the flaw it closes, and every unpatched system becomes a target the day the patch appears.

    1m 04s · from 18:24

Dwarkesh Podcast

Chris Auth, Kevin Fischer, Jack Kavalieros, Tyler Osborn, Pushkar RanadeIntel

Pushkar Ranade is Intel's chief technology officer and Chris Auth leads development of the processes Intel currently manufactures; the others are engineers from Intel's fab, research lab and advanced packaging group, interviewed over a two-day tour of its most advanced fab.

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Dwarkesh Patel

22 October 2026 · 1h 9m · 2 clips below

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    Intel's CTO Pushkar Ranade puts the ceiling on Intel's leading-edge wafer output at probably double today's, given the chipmaking tools that exist, against AI compute that has tripled every year for a decade.

    A process, once locked, needs one specific tool from one supplier, and ASML builds fewer than 100 EUV machines a year to be shared by Intel, TSMC and the memory makers. Moving from 18A to 14A reuses perhaps 80% of the tool set, and on Ranade's account output grows only if the equipment makers and their own suppliers grow too.

    3m 09s · from 48:01

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    Intel's CTO Pushkar Ranade judges the shortage of memory chips to be larger today than the shortage of compute.

    Tools ordered now take about 18 months to arrive and a new fab shell runs to the end of the decade, so output can beat forecasts next year but not by much in 2030 unless the whole supply chain ramps up quickly. In hindsight Intel's sale of its flash business was probably mistimed, and the conversation treats Elon Musk's planned Terafab as guaranteed supply for one buyer, not extra silicon, while tools are the constraint.

    3m 27s · from 59:10

No Priors

George KurtzCrowdStrike

George Kurtz is president and chief executive of CrowdStrike, which he has run for 15 years, and before that founded Foundstone; he has worked in security for more than 30 years.

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Sarah Guo and Elad Gil

22 October 2026 · 45m 27s · 2 clips below

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    CrowdStrike finds attackers who land on a system now move on to the next in 29 minutes on average and in as little as 27 seconds, where it used to take hours or days.

    Kurtz puts much of the attack work on open-weight models such as GLM and Qwen, often with safeguards stripped out or built for red-teaming, because frontier models refuse even benign security requests. Each intrusion is driven by prompts instead of reusable malware, and so leaves no common signature for defenders to match.

    3m 23s · from 5:08

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    George Kurtz reports a big bank's CIO, after token bills ran out of control, keeping frontier models for revenue-earning work and moving everything else to open-weight models the bank post-trains itself.

    The bank's reasoning, as Kurtz relays it, is that open-weight models running about three months behind the frontier are good enough for most tasks, and he says he hears the same from customer after customer. He expects local models on employees' machines within two years, perhaps mixed with last-mile routing to frontier labs.

    1m 31s · from 24:04

All-In

Arvind Krishna and Nikesh Arora

Arvind Krishna speaks for IBM, whose mainframe line he puts at 65 years old. Nikesh Arora runs a cybersecurity company that inspects endpoint traffic for $20 to $30 per device a year and was among a small group given early access to Mythos.

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21 October 2026 · 40m 00s · 1 clip below

  1. prediction

    Arvind Krishna, unsure of the exact figure, puts the share of all AI token usage that will go to open-weight models at 75% to 90%.

    He rests it on cost and control: a Chinese model of about 800 billion parameters, run on an enterprise's own GPUs, can cost about $1 to $2 per million tokens against $20 to $50 for closed models, and running it in-house keeps the chain of thought out of another firm's logs. Arora's firm already inspects endpoint traffic with small task-specific systems and saves the frontier for an active breach.

    5m 03s · from 10:19

Investment 22 October 2026 · 39 clips

Excess Returns

Andy ConstanDamped Spring Advisors

Andy Constan founded Damped Spring Advisors, which analyses global macro markets, market liquidity and the forces driving asset prices for investors and allocators. He has followed the US Treasury's quarterly refunding announcements for decades.

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Jack Forehand and Justin Carbonneau

21 October 2026 · 1h 5m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 framework

    Andy Constan argues a slowdown in the AI build could cut the stocks by 30% without becoming a financial crisis, because the compute would still find a buyer.

    His test for contagion is whether the assets keep their value when a borrower fails: the fibre laid in 2000 kept its worth but took years to pay. If CoreWeave failed he expects customers or the market to buy its capacity, leaving the large platforms with slower revenue and shareholders with the loss.

    2m 22s · from 16:14

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    Andy Constan points out that CoreWeave's debt, issued at 8%, now trades at 15%, and the damage lands on the next dollar it has to raise.

    What lets a neocloud borrow at all, on his account, is a set of promises from stronger companies: Nvidia guarantees the aftermarket price of the chips, and OpenAI, Microsoft and Google have signed long-term compute commitments. Constan treats those commitments as bonds that do not show up as liabilities on the buyers' balance sheets the way a corporate bond would, and judges them small against the size of the companies making them.

    4m 55s · from 9:58

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    Andy Constan says the US 20-year bond often yields more than both the 10 and the 30-year, and cancelling it with bill funding would take about $168 billion a year out of long supply.

    His fix is to spread the 20-year's volume across the 10 and 30-year auctions so long-dated supply holds. Financing it with bills instead lowers long yields and lifts every asset priced off them, and he argues that makes the Treasury an inflationary actor with no inflation mandate, working against the Fed.

    4m 39s · from 32:19

Merryn Talks Money

Matt Levine, Michael Green, Simon Evan-Cook, Paul Kearney

Matt Levine is a Bloomberg columnist; Michael Green is a former hedge fund manager who worked for Canyon Capital and for Peter Thiel; Simon Evan-Cook is a fund manager at Downing Fund Managers; Paul Kearney is at Asset Risk Consultants.

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Merryn Somerset Webb and John Stepek

21 October 2026 · 23m 53s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Two teams at Millennium Management made about 4 billion between them in June trading ahead of expected index changes, more than half the firm's profit for the month, Bloomberg reported.

    Michael Green's framing is that a passive fund is an active investor running the simplest algorithm there is: buy when cash arrives, sell when cash is asked for. Because the cash goes in by index weight, the largest stocks draw the most money and grow larger, a cycle the hosts say could run in reverse if savers start drawing down in retirement.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    3m 21s · from 10:55

Animal Spirits

It's a Bloodbath | Animal Spirits 487

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Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson

21 October 2026 · 1h 8m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Animal Spirits cites Duality Research putting the median S&P 500 stock up 8% this year against 13% for the index.

    One host reads the losers as momentum names still up between 100% and almost 500% on the year after falls of 25% to 50%; the other counts the stocks in ruins whatever the index shows. A USC student's Portfolio Autopsy study of the 343 companies in the index in 1999 and still in it adds the long view: 92% have lost half their value at least once, and 85% fell further than the index's worst drawdown this century, about 55%.

    4m 56s · from 19:14

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Animal Spirits reads the sell-off in CoreWeave's debt, with yields at 15% on a Bloomberg chart as bond prices fell, as a sign the bond market may start setting a ceiling on the AI build-out.

    The company fills data centres with Nvidia chips and leases them to the hyperscalers, financing purchases in the tens of billions through a mix of public, private, secured and unsecured borrowing, with Nvidia as supplier and shareholder. The hosts argue that once a boom runs on borrowing as well as equity, lenders act as a governor on risk appetite, which they say got sloppy when rates were at zero.

    4m 14s · from 5:57

Capital Allocators

Tracy Britt CoolKanbrick

Tracy Britt Cool co-founded Kanbrick, a long-term investment partnership buying family-owned businesses with $5 million to $50 million of earnings, after ten years at Berkshire Hathaway as one of Warren Buffett's deputies. She chaired several Berkshire portfolio companies and was chief executive of Pampered Chef.

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Ted Seides

21 October 2026 · 58m 47s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Tracy Britt Cool argues buyout funds sell their compounding businesses too early because the fund structure and its incentives push them to exit.

    Kanbrick's alternative is to keep a business compounding at 20% or more a year and give investors liquidity along the way through a recap or similar mechanism. She names three cases that might make a business a candidate for sale: a price that already pays for five years of future earnings, earnings that new risks such as AI make less certain, and a buyer that can grow the business faster.

    1m 49s · from 45:44

Excess Returns

Rob ArnottSyzygy Asset Management

Founder of Research Affiliates and creator of the RAFI indices, a business sold in 2026; now chairman of Syzygy Asset Management, which runs long-short strategies built on the same research. He has published more than 150 academic papers and was long-time editor of the Financial Analysts Journal.

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Kai, The Intangible Economy (Excess Returns)

20 October 2026 · 1h 8m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 explainer

    Rob Arnott puts Tesla's rise from its March 2020 low to its S&P 500 addition at 900%, including roughly 50% between the announcement and the day it joined, and calls it the privilege of index membership.

    S&P indexers hold more than 25% of every stock in the index on his account, so an addition obliges them to buy roughly a quarter of the float from holders who mostly do not want to sell. They then crowd the closing price on addition day to keep tracking error at zero, and Arnott argues that habit is what makes the buying so disruptive.

    3m 25s · from 16:30

  2. 2 of 3 framework

    Rob Arnott says a simple price-to-book value strategy left its investors four times as wealthy as growth investors over 60 years, and eight times once R&D and a third of overhead are counted as assets rather than expenses.

    GAAP books a $5,000 desk as an asset and a million dollars of R&D as a bonfire, though no company spends on research unless it expects a return at least as good as the desk's. Capitalising that spending over about 10 years matters most in the last 30, as the economy has shifted toward assets that leave in the lift each evening.

    3m 21s · from 47:02

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Rob Arnott reads Nvidia's lending to its own customers as a dot-com warning sign, and cites a recent paper suggesting AI spending would have to reach 9% of US GDP to justify current valuations.

    The chain pays only if each link earns more than it spends: end users must value AI above its cost before AI vendors can value chips above theirs, and only then do chipmakers profit. He has not tested the 9% figure himself, but argues the market prices chip suppliers richly while pricing the customers who must win as if AI will push them aside.

    3m 33s · from 37:58

Big Technology Podcast

Sundar PichaiAlphabet

Chief executive of Google and Alphabet; he set the company's AI-first direction in 2015 and makes the call on how its compute is split between frontier research and Google Cloud.

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Alex Kantrowitz

20 October 2026 · 45m 30s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Sundar Pichai says AI capacity, unlike dark fibre, is in use and constrained every day, and still accepts that an overbuild can happen.

    Pichai plans compute on committed contracts, demand signals and the trajectory of Google's own models, and names the routes to an overbuild: a bottleneck in one of what he puts at something like 2,000 components or more, or a shock to the economy. He also says Google Cloud is already forgoing short-term revenue so that frontier research gets the compute it needs.

    3m 58s · from 19:39

Top Traders Unplugged

Trend Following Rewards Investors Who Wait | Systematic Investor | Ep.422

A co-hosted episode of the Systematic Investor series with no guest. Kaminski co-wrote a book on trend following with Alex Greyserman and wrote the paper Bonds Behaving Badly.

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Niels Kaastrup-Larsen and Katy Kaminski

20 October 2026 · 1h 9m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Katy Kaminski's paper Bonds Behaving Badly finds that when inflation is the main risk, bonds tend to move with stocks, turn more volatile and lose their safe-haven status.

    Inflation, absent for most of today's investors' careers, is on her account the natural predator of bonds, and a recent sample flatters them. Kaastrup-Larsen points to a Danish public pension fund that moved into what he thinks was a levered risk parity strategy near the low in rates, and to the patience investors extend to bonds and equities through five or ten years without a new high.

    3m 47s · from 21:48

In Conversation with Julie Segal

Ken TropinGraham Capital Management

Ken Tropin founded Graham Capital Management in July 1994 with $40 million from Tudor and $10 million of his own, and chairs it 32 years on; 75 to 80% of its alpha comes from macro trading, and it runs 25 portfolio manager teams. He is Institutional Investor's 2026 Hedge Fund Lifetime Achievement Award winner.

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Julie Segal

20 October 2026 · 43m 22s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Ken Tropin of Graham Capital says institutions hold equities near record highs on a concentrated AI bet with no natural hedge, because bonds stop diversifying once inflation expectations rise.

    Tropin adds that some of their alternatives book sits in private equity and venture, which he treats as a less liquid beta bet. For his own macro fund he claims low correlation over the long haul but rejects the hedge label: if equities are rising, Graham's job is to be long them, and diversification is meant over market cycles, not every time.

    2m 55s · from 20:25

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Ken Tropin counts 82 quarter-point interest-rate moves by the Fed, the ECB and the Bank of England since 2021, against 22 from 2010 to 2020: four times as much for macro traders to work with.

    An early Graham discretionary trader, a former New York Fed watcher who traded the front end of the curve, retired mostly because Fed forward guidance, which Tropin thinks began around 2014 or 2015, left him nothing to predict. Tropin reads the new Fed chair as sceptical of forward guidance and more focused on inflation than employment, which on his account keeps that opportunity open.

    2m 52s · from 11:21

Invest Like the Best

Christina CacioppoVanta

Christina Cacioppo co-founded Vanta about eight years ago and runs it as chief executive; the security and compliance software company now serves about 16,000 customers across about five products. She has also worked as an investor.

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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

20 October 2026 · 1h 4m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Vanta's Christina Cacioppo argues a software business growing 80% a year at 80% margins will return more cash than one growing 160% at 30%, yet the market pays three to ten times the multiple for the second.

    She calls the market irrational and describes investors, many of them AI maximalists, backing the labs and AI applied to physical industry with little in between. On her account the pricing reaches a private company through two channels, the terms of its next financing round and staff who move to the companies the market favours, and her answer is to run the business for the long run regardless.

    2m 10s · from 4:44

The Pomp Podcast

Moez KassamAnson Funds

Moez Kassam co-founded Anson Funds, a Toronto hedge fund running about US$2.5 to 3 billion that underwrites several billion dollars of deals a year. It put about $1 billion into bitcoin treasury companies over 18 months.

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Anthony Pompliano

20 October 2026 · 1h 1m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Moez Kassam reckons that 95% of the time, investors who say they own a piece of OpenAI or its peers are not on the cap table but in a vehicle several layers below it.

    Kassam sees most private offers and secondaries, and describes one set of original investors with layers of special purpose vehicles beneath them charging 1 and 10 or 2 and 20, many set up by family offices and new groups for the purpose. He credits Anthropic with more care over its structured holdings and says the structure could come under a lot of stress when that money tries to come back out.

    0m 59s · from 18:31

20VC

Sameer DholakiaBessemer Venture Partners

Partner at Bessemer Venture Partners, which has just raised $5.75 billion across a $1.75 billion seed and early fund and a $4 billion growth fund; he has led investments in Anthropic, Fireworks and Legora. Before venture he was chief executive of SendGrid, taking it from $30 million to more than $200 million of annual recurring revenue.

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Harry Stebbings

19 October 2026 · 1h 19m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Bessemer's Sameer Dholakia thinks about 20% of the firm's previous growth fund went into one company, Anthropic, and expects late-stage positions in the new fund to average 5% to 10%.

    Dholakia says the fundamentals have perhaps not changed much at this fund size, because the firm still wants concentrated bets: a conviction position can take $200 million to $400 million, probably over two or three rounds. Early growth is run differently, and the firm will go above 10% for a company it judges generational.

    1m 30s · from 36:33

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Bessemer's Sameer Dholakia says the firm paid about 150 times current revenue for its Anthropic stake, and defends such prices by valuing fast growers on the next 12 months' revenue, at 10 to 15 times.

    He stops at 12 months: valuing on the end of next year can mean paying for revenue 18 to 24 months away, which as a former chief executive he says is very hard to forecast at these growth rates. Legora is his case, led at $1.8 billion on about $20 million of revenue, and on his account it has since gone from 20 to 200.

    3m 11s · from 15:31

The Real Eisman Playbook

Danny MosesOn the Tape

Danny Moses was Steve Eisman's partner at FrontPoint through the subprime short told in The Big Short, and before that, from 1996, a senior salesperson at Oppenheimer covering hedge funds and state pension funds. He now hosts the On the Tape podcast.

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Steve Eisman

19 October 2026 · 39m 34s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Danny Moses compares AI capex with the 1999 fibre build, when Lucent and Nortel lent customers the money to buy their equipment and the arithmetic on capacity never worked.

    He separates the hyperscalers, whose capex comes from cash flow they can switch off when they choose, from builders funded by lenders. His example is CoreWeave, carrying $51 billion of debt including leases while it has moved toward renting capacity on shorter terms, a potential mismatch between what it owes and how long it is paid for.

    2m 29s · from 13:36

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Steve Eisman argues institutions moved into private equity after 2008 partly to stop seeing volatility, and expects a long troubled period for a business that runs on borrowed money while rates rise and exits stay shut.

    On his account a fall of roughly 40% in 2008 taught institutions to prefer an asset with no daily price, though the risk underneath was the same. Moses adds that redemption requests now exceed the 5% gates, that managers mark to model because nothing obliges them to mark to market, and that retail access is how managers fill deals institutions pass on.

    2m 32s · from 25:08

Excess Returns

Barry Ritholtz, Jim Paulsen, Ben Hunt

The hosts replay excerpts from three earlier conversations: Barry Ritholtz on AI financing and bonds, Jim Paulsen on technology-stock cycles back to 1926 and on rate cuts, and Ben Hunt on data-centre power demand and government backstops.

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Jack Forehand and Matt Zeigler

19 October 2026 · 43m 13s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Barry Ritholtz puts SpaceX, Anthropic and OpenAI at $5.2 trillion combined if the last two list at the valuations being discussed, against $4.1 trillion for every US tech IPO from 1980 to 2025.

    He concedes the comparison is not inflation-adjusted and that the consensus valuations could be wildly wrong, maybe by half. His other concern is the debt: data-centre bonds that are theoretically A-rated are yielding well above Treasuries, and on his account a building sized for today's chips may need only 5% or 10% of its space once the hardware shrinks.

    2m 28s · from 3:06

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Jim Paulsen counts six cycles of technology-stock outperformance since 1926: none of the first five lasted more than eight years, and the current one has run for 20.

    On his chart of rolling 20-year periods, tech beat the market 80% of the time in the latest one, against 41% at the dot-com top, and he reads that as complacency built by a single decision paying for two decades. His worry is less valuation than crowding: when the cycle turns, everyone overweight has the same reason to cut at once.

    4m 56s · from 10:26

Big Technology Podcast

Ranjan RoyMargins

Ranjan Roy of Margins joins the show on Fridays for the week's technology news; he works in AI and earlier ran a startup.

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Alex Kantrowitz

19 October 2026 · 56m 28s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    CoreWeave bonds issued at 9.625% are trading around a 15% yield, and Ranjan Roy reads the sell-off as one part of the market that still appears to price risk efficiently.

    Roy's case is that the scale of debt being raised for data centres should lift the price of capital, with the 10-year Treasury having touched something like 5.3%, and that a great deal of the build-out was planned as though capital were infinite. CoreWeave already holds its money at the issue coupon; on his account the secondary price is the market's estimate of default risk, effectively distressed territory.

    2m 59s · from 21:17

Monetary Matters

Jim BiancoBianco Research

Jim Bianco of Bianco Research, whose bond index the WTBN ETF tracks, called the 2022 bond bear market and stayed bearish on bonds for six years before turning constructive in early October 2026.

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Jack Farley

18 October 2026 · 1h 16m · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 current issue

    Jim Bianco puts the all-in cost of Gulf crude near $200 a barrel against a Brent quote of about $100, counting $35 a barrel of tanker freight and an estimated $50 to $60 of US naval security.

    The benchmark is quoted free on board, so shipping that cost $2 to $3 a barrel before the Iran war sits outside it; he ties today's rate to 25 ships struck and two sunk since late September. He reads the extra cost as already absorbed, by refiners through wide crack spreads and by US taxpayers, which leaves oil itself limited room to climb.

    2m 39s · from 13:07

  2. 2 of 4 contrarian

    Jim Bianco argues US inflation is stuck near 3% because goods prices, which fell about 0.5% a year from 2001 to 2020, now rise about 2%, and both parties back the trade barriers behind the change.

    On the PCE measure goods are about a third of the index and services ran near 2.5% throughout, so the old headline of about 1.6 to 1.7% rested on cheap imports. Bianco accepts a San Francisco Fed finding that tariffs explain most of the goods inflation and treats them as a settled policy choice, citing the US ban, begun under Biden, on BYD cars priced at $10,000 to $15,000.

    5m 03s · from 7:14

  3. 3 of 4 prediction

    Jim Bianco argues US bonds are no longer expensive for the first time in six years, because 5% yields are normal for an economy he expects to grow 5 to 6% a year in nominal terms.

    He builds the nominal figure from inflation stuck near 3% and real growth near 2%, and set his trigger at the point when every Treasury rate from the three-year to the 30-year carried a five handle. On his arithmetic a negative ten-year return from here needs ten-year rates of 14 to 15% within five to seven years, a world in which, he jokes, bonds would still lose least.

    3m 32s · from 1:57

  4. 4 of 4 current issue

    Jim Bianco says that with Fed chair Kevin Warsh giving no forward guidance, markets hunt for it in other officials' speeches, and the odds priced for an October hike fell from 55% to 13% in two days.

    He backs the change: the 2021 signals read as a promise to hold, and the central bank waited until March 2022, with inflation at 8.5%, before it moved. What he concedes is the side effect, that John Williams and Philip Jefferson now move markets as presumed proxies for Warsh.

    3m 18s · from 24:20

AI 22 October 2026 · 39 clips

In Good Company (Norges Bank)

Eric Schmidt

Eric Schmidt was chief executive of Google from 2001 to 2011, helped write the US AI strategy, and now advises governments on AI while running four new companies.

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Nicolai Tangen, CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management

21 October 2026 · 46m 26s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Eric Schmidt says Chinese AI models look about six months behind American ones, and argues that is already a loss because China gives its models away.

    Schmidt says the Chinese labs look like fast followers, and appear to have been helped by distillation, training on a larger model's answers, which he calls more or less illegal, and by smuggled chips. If losing is measured in users, he argues, a poor country that cannot pay Western prices will run a Chinese model.

    1m 37s · from 25:59

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Eric Schmidt says AI is advancing fastest in software, cyber and mathematics because each produces its own training signal, and slowest where data has to be gathered, as in biology.

    On his account code can be run and checked, so a model learns as it writes; attack code is the same skill turned to harm; and mathematics is scale-free, needing nothing new from outside. He names Anthropic, which writes most of its own code with its own models, as the leading edge, and expects large companies, European ones especially, to follow slowly.

    2m 12s · from 15:16

Big Technology Podcast

Sundar PichaiAlphabet

Chief executive of Google and Alphabet; he set the company's AI-first direction in 2015 and makes the call on how its compute is split between frontier research and Google Cloud.

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Alex Kantrowitz

20 October 2026 · 45m 30s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Sundar Pichai says everyone in AI is short of compute, and capacity for a new customer in 2027 is already very hard to find.

    Frontier research is served first, as a non-negotiable, and each business, Cloud included, plans on its own demand signals and contracted revenue two to three years out. He broadly accepts a view relayed second-hand from Amazon that supply is sold out years ahead, and says the company rented extra short-term supply last year to help some clients.

    4m 25s · from 15:15

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Sundar Pichai says Google's new model was built partly by AI improving itself alongside human researchers, and thinks models should in time be checked by independent evaluators, as companies are by auditors.

    He rests the safety case on defence in depth: alignment work with acknowledged gaps, real-time monitoring and sandboxing of running models, and customer controls over what data they reach. The next step he names is shared cross-industry standards, with regulation following.

    3m 37s · from 9:21

ChinaTalk

Nick BrownCenter for Technology and Statecraft

Nick Brown co-founded the Center for Technology and Statecraft, a think tank spun out of IFP, and wrote its report on DUV immersion lithography as the foundation of the US lead in AI compute, which estimates China's installed base of ASML tools. He studied physics and worked as a software engineer in and around government.

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Jordan Schneider and Aqib Zakaria

20 October 2026 · 1h 17m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    ChinaTalk puts the US lead in AI compute at about 30 to one, and Nick Brown argues the chips that decide whether it lasts are the ones China makes itself.

    Brown ranks China's chips by the leverage Washington keeps over each. Remotely accessed chips can be cut off at any moment, exported chips are let go at the point of sale, and chips made on China's own supply chain leave very little, which is why he treats indigenous production as the real contest while the debate runs on which Nvidia part may ship.

    3m 36s · from 3:37

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    On Nick Brown's estimate, a single ASML scanner can probably make more than 100,000 Huawei Ascend AI chips a year, even at China's lower yields.

    That is why the MATCH Act's 150-day lead time concerns him: China stockpiled HBM ahead of earlier controls and may bring in tens of scanners, perhaps more than 100, before a ban takes effect. He argues the ban still caps the decade, and that China already holds enough lithography for ten years of smartphone demand, leaving a large AI build as probably the only demand that would hit the ceiling.

    4m 07s · from 34:38

Invest Like the Best

Christina CacioppoVanta

Christina Cacioppo co-founded Vanta about eight years ago and runs it as chief executive; the security and compliance software company now serves about 16,000 customers across about five products. She has also worked as an investor.

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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

20 October 2026 · 1h 4m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 current issue

    Christina Cacioppo reports that many French software companies now run mainly on Chinese models, a switch she was told followed a US model being closed to non-American users.

    She had assumed the choice was nationalism and was corrected: on the account she was given, they all switched once one American model was withdrawn from non-Americans, having concluded no business could count on keeping access to a US model. Her account comes from customer meetings on a single trip and gives no count of how many firms have switched.

    1m 00s · from 36:23

  2. 2 of 3 explainer

    Christina Cacioppo says AI models break into systems less through new flaws than by chaining together many minor ones, which ends the habit of leaving low-severity fixes for 90 days.

    She points to an OpenAI talk at RSA as an example: a model's persistence lets it try far more combinations than a person would, and flaws that were sensibly queued for later become a route in once linked. Her conclusion is that some of the triage has to go and organisations will have to fix what they find as fast as it is found.

    1m 41s · from 38:58

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    Vanta's Christina Cacioppo says customers will not pay a markup on model tokens: priced that way, an AI application is compared directly with the model vendor and loses.

    Cacioppo says Vanta is absorbing the token cost and accepting the lower margin, with about 25% of customers using its agent-led workflow and a target of 75%, on the view that retention follows usage. She treats this as a deployment phase and leaves pricing to be settled once the usage is there.

    1m 45s · from 9:41

Training Data (Sequoia)

Josh GaoMecka AI

Founder and chief executive of Mecka AI, which creates, processes and licenses the data used to train robotics foundation models, moving hundreds of petabytes through its own upload lines.

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Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital

20 October 2026 · 45m 12s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Mecka AI's Josh Gao puts robot training data at millions of hours, up from about 4,000 two years ago, and still many orders of magnitude short of what robotics needs.

    Self-driving has taken over a decade and millions of cars to work on two degrees of freedom, steering and acceleration, while a robot hand has dozens. Asked whether any economy can fund that much data, Gao answers that commercial tasks unlock one at a time, as broad pretraining is topped up with data from the job site itself to reach the four nines of reliability real-world settings often need.

    2m 18s · from 19:33

a16z

Karan SinghalOpenAI

Karan Singhal leads health AI research at OpenAI, where more than 300 million people a week use ChatGPT for health and wellness questions. He worked on specialised healthcare models in an earlier role.

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Jay Rughani

20 October 2026 · 55m 07s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    OpenAI adds healthcare data at every stage of training its general models instead of building a separate medical model, which Karan Singhal says would fall behind the frontier.

    Singhal, who worked on narrow clinical systems in an earlier role, says frontier progress outruns anything focus can buy. Evaluations and examples from OpenAI's network of hundreds of physicians go into the big model instead, a bet that scale keeps paying.

    1m 53s · from 6:00

The Cognitive Revolution

Alex RivesBiohub

Alex Rives is head of science at Biohub, the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative-backed effort that has just announced a $1.8 billion expansion of its Virtual Biology Initiative with the Department of Energy, the NIH, Google DeepMind, Isomorphic and Meta. He co-founded Evolutionary Scale, maker of the ESM protein language models, and was its chief scientist.

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Nathan Labenz

20 October 2026 · 1h 3m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Alex Rives expects the reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards that took off in maths and code to work in biology, where the verifier has to be a laboratory experiment.

    He maps the language-model recipe onto cells, self-supervised pre-training to learn the system and a later stage that draws out the part relevant to a problem, and describes the end state as empirical AI that proposes an experiment, runs it, learns and proposes a better one. Fast computational checks are why maths and coding moved first.

    3m 47s · from 42:24

Investment 18 October 2026 · 40 clips

Top Traders Unplugged

Christian Mueller-GlissmannGoldman Sachs

Christian Mueller-Glissmann is head of asset allocation research at Goldman Sachs.

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Cem Karsan

17 October 2026 · 1h 10m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 contrarian

    Christian Mueller-Glissmann of Goldman Sachs reads the AI boom as an earnings bubble in parts of the market, not a valuation bubble, and thinks the S&P 500's forward multiple has fallen from 23 to 19 times this year.

    Most investors he speaks to are already discounting the cyclical semiconductor and hyperscaler earnings, and long-dated data centre and compute contracts give more visibility than usual. Because an earnings bubble can take a long time to deflate where a valuation bubble can burst quickly, he makes the third-quarter season the test: AI revenue has to start offsetting negative free cash flow and the depreciation to come.

    3m 28s · from 10:44

  2. 2 of 3 framework

    Goldman Sachs' Christian Mueller-Glissmann judges a bond sell-off by its level, speed and source, and with the US 10-year at 5.3% to 5.4% he puts all three at or near the point where equities struggle.

    He puts the 300-year average US 10-year yield at 4.7%, or 4.5% without the 1970s, and says equities have historically struggled once yields rise more than two standard deviations in three months, a line crossed around 5.1% to 5.2%. The rise has come through real yields and policy, and the damage already shows in small and mid caps, real estate, home builders and some financials.

    4m 51s · from 33:36

  3. 3 of 3 current issue

    Goldman Sachs' Christian Mueller-Glissmann reports global asset owners moving a little closer to home because currency risk now matters more, already in bonds and increasingly in equities.

    On his account, policy-driven volatility tends to bring inflation, which gives real assets the potential to cushion it over the medium term even if property and infrastructure do not protect at the moment inflation arrives. With fiscal and political risk widespread, government bonds become a less reliable offset to equities, and gold tends to gain when trust breaks: in central banks in the 1970s, the financial system in the global financial crisis and governments since COVID.

    3m 39s · from 58:20

The Pomp Podcast

Jordi VisserVisserLabs

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with more than 30 years' experience and writes the VisserLabs Substack.

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Anthony Pompliano

17 October 2026 · 1h 0m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Lone Pine Capital, on The Pomp Podcast's account, rose more than 40% in the first half and gave all of it back by the end of September, in a quarter when the S&P 500 rose 2% and the VIX never spiked.

    Visser reads it through LTCM: a levered spread trade is a bet on how long investors stay and how long prime brokers keep lending. With the AI winners so few and the losers so many, he expects that squeeze to run for the five years he gives the build-out and to take leverage out of the hedge fund industry.

    2m 08s · from 6:21

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    The Pomp Podcast puts money market fund assets up 70% since 2022 against 5% to 6% growth in bank deposits, and expects AI agents to pull more cash out of the zero-yield accounts that fund JP Morgan's spread.

    The conversation puts the bank's net interest income at $107 billion and sees its only defence in cutting headcount by automating workflows while the margin narrows. Stripe, which bought OpenRouter, is put at $160 billion to $200 billion with about 10,000 staff, against Citigroup's 200,000 at a similar market cap.

    2m 31s · from 43:49

Excess Returns

Colin McQueenT. Rowe Price

Colin McQueen is a portfolio manager in T. Rowe Price's global equity division, billed by the show as a $17 billion international manager. He started in 1989 at Phillips & Drew, the UK value house later absorbed into UBS, and spent time on Morgan Stanley's global value team before joining T. Rowe Price.

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Justin Carbonneau and Jack Forehand

17 October 2026 · 1h 2m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Samsung Electronics traded at one times book 18 months ago and now sits just under three, and T. Rowe Price's Colin McQueen puts about 14% to 15% of international stocks as tied into the AI supply chain.

    Memory chips and passive components were commoditised suppliers to PCs and phones, carrying excess capacity, until AI demand pushed them into undersupply and gave them pricing power. On the user side McQueen says the market is still working out which companies AI helps and which it disrupts, and he takes from the dot-com era that proving a business is not being disrupted can take a long while.

    2m 54s · from 18:26

All-In

Ben HorowitzAndreessen Horowitz

Ben Horowitz of Andreessen Horowitz, which the hosts introduce as the largest venture firm by assets under management, went through the 1999 to 2001 bandwidth collapse at Loudcloud; his firm holds stakes in both OpenAI and Anthropic.

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Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya and David Sacks

17 October 2026 · 1h 34m · 5 clips below

  1. 1 of 5 framework

    Ben Horowitz says Andreessen Horowitz has stayed out of neoclouds because at Loudcloud he saw bandwidth bought on three-year contracts at $1,500 a megabit in 1999 fall to $50 by 2001.

    He still reads the AI build-out as the reverse of the internet bust, which died of too little demand: GPUs now earn for six to eight years instead of three to five, and Andy Jassy told him Amazon is out of capacity to the end of 2028, perhaps beyond. Data centre space is rising in price as well, with labour scarce and politics slowing builds, so the tailwind runs through the whole supply chain.

    4m 42s · from 13:42

  2. 2 of 5 current issue

    Chamath Palihapitiya reads CoreWeave's credit default swaps, at about 953 basis points this week, as an implied annual chance of default of about 16% and roughly 55% over five years.

    He treats the traders in those swaps as the smartest money on this risk. His chart then splits CoreWeave's borrowing cost from junk debt as a whole: both have been dragged up by a rising 10-year Treasury yield, and CoreWeave's has climbed faster.

    2m 26s · from 6:05

  3. 3 of 5 contrarian

    David Sacks argues a yield of around 15% on CoreWeave's unsecured bonds does not raise what the company pays today, because the coupon stays at 9.6%, and he thinks new capacity is financed project by project.

    He works through the alternatives in turn: demand is still rising, with H100s and A100s renting at premiums long after they were meant to be written down; supply is held back by power and permitting; and each project borrows on the credit of a five-year tenant such as Microsoft, with the GPUs as collateral. He concedes the repricing could lift the cost of future unsecured debt.

    4m 51s · from 20:11

  4. 4 of 5 framework

    David Sacks names payback period as the metric to watch in AI data centres: CoreWeave says it recovers its outlay in 2.5 years of a five-year contract, and SpaceX does so in roughly one.

    The gap comes from pricing, on his account: SpaceX sells close to spot on deals either side can cancel within 90 days, earning about $50 billion a gigawatt to CoreWeave's $20 billion on contracts signed years ahead. The panel then argues over whether CoreWeave should pay to exit contracts and sell spot; the counter is that investment-grade customers will not pay spot when they can build their own.

    4m 38s · from 40:21

  5. 5 of 5 prediction

    Chamath Palihapitiya argues Anthropic should use its IPO to raise $200 to $250 billion at a valuation nearer $1 trillion to $1.5 trillion, instead of about $80 billion at close to $2 trillion.

    He would rather take the money now than file a mixed shelf for a later raise, which takes about six months in whatever market then exists; later in the clip the panel puts $200 billion as a path to five to 10 gigawatts financed through CoreWeave-style boxes. Ben Horowitz agrees, from a chief executive's experience of nearly running out of cash, that financing is the risk most likely to stop the company.

    4m 29s · from 54:27

The Compound and Friends

Steve Eisman

Steve Eisman bet against the subprime mortgage market ahead of the 2008 financial crisis while running FrontPoint Partners, a trade chronicled in Michael Lewis's The Big Short. He joined Neuberger Berman in 2014 as a managing director and portfolio manager, and launched the Real Eisman Playbook podcast in 2025.

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Josh Brown and Michael Batnick

16 October 2026 · 48m 23s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 current issue

    Steve Eisman, while stressing it is not a prediction, thinks an OpenAI bankruptcy would put the US into recession immediately, because the AI supply chain runs on two customers.

    Nvidia's 10-Q shows 70% of its receivables coming from five customers; Eisman puts 70% of the hyperscalers' AI revenue, perhaps 25% to 30% of their cloud revenue, with OpenAI and Anthropic, and half of Oracle's backlog with OpenAI alone. He sets this apart from 2008: a failure here looks more like General Motors going under, with layoffs and failed suppliers, while the banks are fine.

    4m 19s · from 9:34

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    Steve Eisman counts about 65% of the S&P 500 as a single AI trade once tech, Alphabet, Amazon, the investment banks and suppliers such as GE Vernova, Quanta, Eaton and Rockwell are added up.

    Tech alone is 40% by his count and Google and Amazon take it to 50%; one host adds that companies not yet public are now big enough to cause a recession, and that this week showed how much yields depend on AI's ability to sell debt. Eisman says the trade is fine so long as demand holds up and somebody is willing to finance the build.

    1m 47s · from 39:15

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Steve Eisman's bear case for AI is a price war, as cost-conscious buyers move staff onto cheaper models and the two leading labs come under pressure to cut prices.

    Enterprise software has moved from per-seat contracts toward paying for usage, which Eisman says is a lot more expensive and makes buyers cost-conscious. In his hypothetical, Anthropic's growth turns negative, nobody funds it, commitments get cut, and Oracle, with half its backlog from OpenAI, goes down with them.

    3m 21s · from 20:22

The Real Eisman Playbook

Market Cracks Under AI Debt Burden | The Weekly Wrap

A weekly solo wrap by the host, with no guest.

Hosted by

Steve Eisman

16 October 2026 · 22m 29s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 framework

    Steve Eisman says investors fear consumer AI agents will sweep idle cash out of bank and broker accounts into money market funds, and JPMorgan has announced it will not let outside agents into its customer accounts.

    Checking and savings balances paying little or nothing are a typical bank's most important funding and the base of its net interest margin, and they stay put because customers do not bother to move them. Personal-lines insurers such as Progressive and Geico face the same threat, since an agent shopping for a policy weighs price and credit rating and ignores the brand.

    3m 02s · from 8:14

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    Steve Eisman reads CoreWeave's bonds, issued at a 9% coupon and now below 90 cents on the dollar for a yield near 15%, as the fixed income market quickly losing confidence in the company.

    CoreWeave carries more than $35 billion of debt and $10 billion of capital lease obligations against a $43 billion market cap, while competing with hyperscalers on far larger balance sheets. Its shares fell 15% on Wednesday and Nebius 10%, and OpenAI's reported annualised revenue has slipped from a claimed $70 billion to $50 billion.

    2m 00s · from 4:49

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Steve Eisman finds no sign of a credit cycle in the non-accrual data of JPMorgan, Wells Fargo, Citi and Bank of America, and concludes the banks are not the leading indicator this time.

    JPMorgan's non-accruing loans stood at $9.4 billion, down 7% on a year earlier, and Bank of America's at $5.7 billion, up 3%, with none of the consumer surge that preceded the financial crisis. On his account the next trouble could emerge instead in private credit's exposure to software or in AI-related debt such as CoreWeave's.

    4m 03s · from 12:50

The Meb Faber Show

Dirk WillerCiti

Dirk Willer is head of global macro, asset allocation and emerging market strategy at Citi, where his team includes a large quant group that backtests the rules he trades by. His book, Trading Global Macro Markets, came out last spring.

Hosted by

Meb Faber

16 October 2026 · 48m 17s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 prediction

    Dirk Willer puts the US equity market at 240% of GDP against just over 100% at the 2000 peak, and expects a burst to bring a deeper recession, with rates back at zero not implausible.

    A real yield of about 3.3% on the 30-year may be hard for the S&P to beat if the bubble bursts within the next five years or so, Willer argues. The market has swung from treating every shock as deflationary to treating every shock as inflationary; a burst bubble, or AI pushing unemployment past 10%, could be the deflationary shock that makes Treasuries work again.

    3m 00s · from 17:27

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Citi built a Warsh shadow rate from every indicator Warsh has said he cares about, and with it at its highs, Dirk Willer's team reads him as hawkish.

    Summed as z-scores, those indicators tracked Fed funds in the 1990s almost exactly under Greenspan, Warsh's favourite central banker, and later led it. For bonds Willer uses the rule of thumb of selling about six months before the first hike and buying back only when one hike is left, because the market keeps pricing more hikes until the Fed sounds close to done.

    3m 23s · from 9:50

Masters in Business (Ritholtz)

Bob MicheleJ.P. Morgan Asset Management

Chief investment officer and head of global fixed income, currency and commodities at J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which he joined in 2008 after running fixed income in London for Schroders. He started in the industry at Bankers Trust in 1981.

Hosted by

Barry Ritholtz

16 October 2026 · 1h 11m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Bob Michele says private credit is repeating the mortgage market, where Rocket Mortgage, a non-bank, became the largest lender and the banks learned to live alongside it.

    Large borrowers now weigh a public bond against a direct loan, and Michele's firm has paired its commercial bank, which sources and originates the loans, with his asset management team, which takes a fiduciary look and buys those that fit its clients. He says the convergence of public and private is happening everywhere.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 09s · from 40:11

Forward Guidance

The Bond Market Is Pricing In Something Worse Than Inflation | Weekly Roundup

A weekly roundup between the two hosts, with no guest.

Hosted by

Felix Jauvin and Quinn Thompson

16 October 2026 · 51m 51s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Forward Guidance's hosts argue the US is already tightening with little help from the Fed: the 10-year has held above 5% for what one host thinks is more than a month, while high-yield and hyperscaler credit spreads widen.

    Diesel prices, mortgage rates and wider spreads all raise the cost of building, and one host puts the lag before it reaches the data at anywhere from one to four months. They read the recent sell-off as de-grossing ahead of the midterms and the next Fed meeting, with nothing yet in place to bring yields, spreads or oil back down.

    3m 53s · from 19:44

The Credit Edge

Bryan WhalenTCW

Bryan Whalen is chief investment officer of TCW's fixed income group, which oversees about $160 billion, and a generalist portfolio manager with 30 years in bond markets. His background includes MetWest, Credit Suisse and DLJ.

Hosted by

James Crombie and Jody Lurie

15 October 2026 · 52m 39s · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 current issue

    TCW's fixed income group holds less investment-grade and high-yield credit against its benchmarks than at any point in 30 years, with investment-grade spreads still near all-time lows.

    Most of TCW's public fixed income is run long-only, so the position is an underweight to the corporate share of each benchmark. Whalen would rather wait for a better opportunity than take so little pay for the concerns he has.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 05s · from 1:08

  2. 2 of 4 contrarian

    Bryan Whalen of TCW argues rates of 5% or more feel suffocating for the US economy outside AI, while most of the big borrowers inside it keep borrowing at the same pace.

    He puts neutral near the 3.5% to 4.5% range rates sat in at the turn of the year and expects a return there within one to two years. Housing activity, commercial property, auto loans and credit cards already show the strain, and businesses that AI threatens, his examples being software firms and insurance brokers, face it worst.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 33s · from 4:20

  3. 3 of 4 current issue

    TCW's Bryan Whalen expects Meta, Microsoft, Amazon and Google to manage their AI debt load, and puts his real concern on AI companies with no business outside AI.

    The big four have non-AI businesses that can carry the debt whether they turn free-cash-flow positive in 2028 or 2029, so their spreads may widen without principal coming under threat. The AI-only names carry more leverage, and their financing depends in large part on others inside the same ecosystem.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    1m 24s · from 34:43

  4. 4 of 4 prediction

    TCW expects hyperscaler bonds to keep trading wide for years even if AI goes well, because chip financing will follow this year's wave of data-centre issuance.

    Whalen draws on the big six banks after the global financial crisis: TCW judged their cleaned-up balance sheets cheap and was right, but spreads took ten years to compress. What it may have missed, he says, was how much the banks would issue to get their balance sheets where regulators needed them.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    1m 37s · from 39:14

Excess Returns

Jim PaulsenPaulsen Perspectives

Jim Paulsen writes the Paulsen Perspectives Substack and joins Excess Returns each month to walk through his charts. He has managed money for clients himself.

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Justin Carbonneau and Jack Forehand

15 October 2026 · 1h 2m · 1 clip below

  1. prediction

    Jim Paulsen's most likely path is Fed cuts that arrive with falling stocks, a 15% S&P 500 correction with 20% or more in tech, then another three years of bull market.

    Paulsen argues that oil oscillating around $100 a barrel adds nothing month on month, so inflation comes down unless crude escalates to about $150, and he says non-energy prices have already rolled over. Easing would then bring bond yields lower, which he expects to surprise most of the market.

    3m 13s · from 58:18

BG2 Pod

Jensen HuangNVIDIA

Jensen Huang leads NVIDIA, which he puts at about 80% of AI infrastructure revenue. This is his third BG2 conversation, recorded days after he received the National Medal of Science.

Hosted by

Brad Gerstner and Clark Tang

15 October 2026 · 1h 39m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 contrarian

    Jensen Huang puts the frontier labs at roughly a quarter to 30% of NVIDIA's compute, and argues the trillions in AI capex do not depend on their revenues doubling every year.

    The hosts set the test: lab revenue of about $200 billion this year would need to reach $400 billion and then $800 billion to come near paying back the build. Huang answers by splitting NVIDIA's business into rough thirds: classical computing such as fraud detection and simulation, growing perhaps 30% to 40% a year with no AI in it, the labs, and thousands of startups renting compute.

    5m 11s · from 1:00:57

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    Jensen Huang says NVIDIA is setting up two revenue lines independent of the next chip sale: enterprise software licences at roughly a couple of thousand dollars per GPU a year, and, very likely, revenue shares in regional clouds it helps finance.

    Many enterprises moving from training to deployment lack the staff to run the stack and want NVIDIA on the service agreement for years; at, say, 20 million GPUs a year, half into enterprises, he says the licence income adds up. A revenue share would apply where NVIDIA supplies offtake, software support and investment to a cloud that has already secured land, power and buildings.

    2m 53s · from 1:26:42

  3. 3 of 3 current issue

    Jensen Huang says NVIDIA's offering now comes to more than $40 billion for each gigawatt of data centre, up from about $18 billion, and that a shortage of power is shifting buyers toward it.

    With land, power and buildings scarcer than chips, Huang argues a fixed power budget goes to whatever earns the most revenue per watt, and that scarcity therefore works in NVIDIA's favour. He estimates NVIDIA's share at about 40% of the big cloud providers' capex and about 80% of spending outside them, against single digits six years ago.

    3m 34s · from 51:49

Capital Allocators

Charlie RoseInvesco

Charlie Rose is Global Head of Real Estate Credit at Invesco, part of an $85 billion global real estate platform. He spent eight years at Canyon Partners investing across the capital stack after the 2008 crisis.

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Ted Seides

15 October 2026 · 1h 9m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Invesco Real Estate Credit is not lending on data centres, citing single hyperscale tenants, no alternative use and unknown obsolescence five to 20 years out.

    Charlie Rose concedes the supply of deals and the yields are tempting. His second reason is portfolio-level: real estate credit has historically shown a correlation below 0.2 even to private equity, private credit and real estate equity, and with a lot of other segments now carrying meaningful AI exposure, Rose believes keeping it out helps the asset class hold that low correlation.

    2m 55s · from 18:15

MacroVoices

Yasir ArafatAalo Atomics

Co-founder and chief technology officer of Aalo Atomics, which is building a factory in Texas to produce 100 reactors of 10 MW each a year, first for AI data centres.

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Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna

15 October 2026 · 1h 13m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    MacroVoices' market desk reads CoreWeave's shares falling about 16%, with its bonds yielding up to 15%, as a possible first sign that the credit funding AI growth is tightening.

    In the desk's account AI has absorbed so much credit to grow that growth may stall once access to it slows, so the market is trying to work out when that financing cycle comes under stress. Commitment of Traders data had Nasdaq positioning at the 100th percentile and Russell small caps near zero beforehand, and on the day defensives and Treasuries rallied while AI names fell.

    2m 49s · from 1:01:12

Rational Reminder

Alex EdmansLondon Business School

Professor of finance at London Business School and author of Grow the Pie, May Contain Lies and The Madness of Markets. Previously a tenured professor at Wharton and an investment banker at Morgan Stanley.

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Ben Felix and Cameron Passmore

15 October 2026 · 1h 8m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 explainer

    Alex Edmans found the 100 Best Companies to Work For in America beat their peers by 2.3% to 3.8% a year over 28 years, even though the list is public.

    His explanation is that employee satisfaction never arrives as an announcement the way earnings do, some investors dismiss it as soft, and those who rate it may still not know how to turn it into a figure in a valuation model. Compounded, the gap comes to 89% to 184% over the period.

    1m 58s · from 13:24

  2. 2 of 3 framework

    Alex Edmans argues, after Berk and Green, that a lack of persistence in fund returns is no evidence of a lack of skill: money floods to a skilled manager until the edge is diluted or charged away.

    Inflows push a larger book out of its ten best ideas into weaker ones, or the manager raises fees, and either way the investor keeps little of the talent. Edmans cites ARK growing from $4 billion to $60 billion after one strong year, and says his own emerging and frontier market holding is little known and that he invests on preferential terms.

    3m 57s · from 55:04

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    Alex Edmans says momentum's worst losses can be seen coming: they typically arrive after a big fall in the S&P 500 or when the VIX is high.

    After a sell-off the rebound is led by cyclical companies, and those are the stocks a momentum book has just sold because they fell hardest, so the strategy is short the recovery. Edmans points to Daniel and Moskowitz's Momentum Crashes paper, which suggests tilting out of the factor when the market is in decline.

    2m 11s · from 38:40

AI 18 October 2026 · 40 clips

20VC

Harrison ChaseLangChain

Harrison Chase is co-founder and CEO of LangChain, which builds developer tools for AI agents and has announced about $160 million in funding, the last round at a $1.25 billion valuation. LangChain works with 35% of the Fortune 500 and has passed one billion open-source downloads.

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20VC

17 October 2026 · 1h 3m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Harrison Chase calls the fear that Chinese open-weight models send enterprise data back to their labs ridiculous when the model runs on Fireworks or on the enterprise's own hardware.

    The second fear, that training leaves the model answering against an enterprise's values, he thinks largely unfounded and testable with evals, with some nuance by domain. He expects comparable US open models within 12 months, pointing to Nvidia and a recent Reflection launch, and finds open models in wider use than he expected, though mainly on narrow tasks.

    2m 56s · from 45:11

Y Combinator

Clark Barrett and Mykel KochenderferStanford Center for AI Safety

Barrett and Kochenderfer are Stanford professors and co-directors of the Stanford Center for AI Safety. Barrett directs the Center for Automated Reasoning; Kochenderfer directs the Stanford Intelligent Systems Laboratory, whose ACAS X collision avoidance work was held to one catastrophic failure per billion flight hours.

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Francois Chaubard

17 October 2026 · 1h 37m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Y Combinator's Paper Club panel floats an NTSB for AI, pointing to independent accident investigation and non-punitive reporting as how commercial flying became 80 times safer than in the 1970s.

    The host asks whether that would mean opt-in guidelines or FDA-style approval, and the answer goes back to 1967, when the US accident board was set up as its own agency, and to ASRS and a later scheme that gave reporters some immunity. The panel concedes a new body may take too long to set up.

    2m 09s · from 45:25

a16z

Jad NaousGrepr

Jad Naous is chief executive of Grepr, a 10-person company whose telemetry pipeline cuts observability data costs. He spent a couple of years in venture at a16z, was chief product officer at a startup whose product and engineering team grew from about 15 to over 90, and spent about three and a half years at AppDynamics as it grew from about 200 to 2,000 people ahead of its sale to Cisco.

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Martin Casado

16 October 2026 · 58m 57s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Grepr's Jad Naous finds AI coding tools widened the gap between good and average engineers on his small team by about 10 times, with no weak engineer becoming a strong one.

    His explanation is that someone still has to hold the whole system in their head and break the work into pieces a model can take. For the distributed algorithms Grepr builds, none of the models can reason through the problem, so the engineer explains what the system must do and the model builds to it.

    1m 25s · from 13:13

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Martin Casado expects AI to spread fastest where outputs look like the training data, and points to self-driving: about 20 years and $170 billion to reach unit economics worse than Uber's.

    Casado names code and generated images as the domains where AI keeps spreading fast, and puts anything whose solution lives in the natural world on the slow side, with harder economics. He starts the self-driving clock at Sebastian Thrun's DARPA Grand Challenge win, when Casado was at Stanford.

    1m 39s · from 53:24

The Compound and Friends

Steve Eisman

Steve Eisman bet against the subprime mortgage market ahead of the 2008 financial crisis while running FrontPoint Partners, a trade chronicled in Michael Lewis's The Big Short. He joined Neuberger Berman in 2014 as a managing director and portfolio manager, and launched the Real Eisman Playbook podcast in 2025.

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Josh Brown and Michael Batnick

16 October 2026 · 48m 23s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Steve Eisman's thesis is that Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are asking for regulation because token-maxing is done and open-weight models at a tenth of the price leave no AI lab with a moat.

    Uber ran through its AI budget in three months this spring, and Eisman expects cost-conscious companies to move work to open-weight models; he hears Anthropic is already cutting prices. On his reading, the two labs could use regulation to keep Chinese open-weight models out and hold a duopoly.

    4m 29s · from 0:00

Big Technology Podcast

Kevin Roose

Kevin Roose is the author of The AGI Chronicles, a history of the last decade at OpenAI, Anthropic and Google DeepMind built on interviews with more than 150 people. He co-hosts Hard Fork and is launching a new show, Machine Gods, with Casey Newton.

Hosted by

Alex Kantrowitz

15 October 2026 · 1h 1m · 1 clip below

  1. prediction

    Kevin Roose cites Anthropic's figure that Claude now leads 26% of the company's AI research and development projects, and sees no reason it could not reach 50% or 75%.

    OpenAI has said its goal is an automated AI researcher, and if the labs close the loop Roose suggests new models could arrive every couple of weeks or faster instead of every six months, though he does not know how fast the cycle would run. He thinks the labs are racing toward recursive self-improvement and should stop.

    2m 15s · from 56:27

Investment 15 October 2026 · 39 clips

Monetary Matters

Ben InkerGMO

Co-head of asset allocation at GMO, which manages more than $80 billion. GMO's Q3 2026 quarterly letter, the subject of this episode, argued that equity supply will be the catalyst that brings down the AI bubble, playing out over the next 12 to 18 months.

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Max Wiethe

14 October 2026 · 1h 11m · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 prediction

    Ben Inker puts the SpaceX listing and, if they follow, Anthropic's and OpenAI's at maybe 6% to 7.5% of US market cap reaching buyers within about 12 months, when no year on record has brought more than 4%.

    Historically the market has done about 4% worse for each percentage point of capitalisation issued by IPO in a given calendar period, so 6% implies a return 24% below normal, and the three heaviest issuance years, 1999, 2000 and 2021, were each followed by difficult markets. Staggered lock-up expiries avoid a single 180-day cliff, but almost every early holder still gets the chance to sell.

    4m 35s · from 7:46

  2. 2 of 4 current issue

    Ben Inker says high-yield and investment-grade spreads sit around the 13th percentile of history while AI borrowers are already paying a premium because lenders are running out of room to diversify.

    A lender makes some money if things go fantastically well and loses a lot if they go badly, so credit cannot make the all-in bet on AI that an equity investor might. If all the slated investment arrives, AI's share of corporate debt would exceed anything in the modern history of credit markets; only in the railroad era was nearly all debt railroad debt.

    4m 13s · from 30:53

  3. 3 of 4 prediction

    Ben Inker sketches how a cut in training spend could leave the world awash in compute, idle five-year-old data centres and take the market down 35% to 50%, which he is not sure will happen but says would be easy to.

    His illustration, a number he says may be wrong, has half of today's spend going to training new models; if that falls to a tenth because the return on the spend is not coming in, the world goes from short of compute to awash in it. Defaults on the credit side and failures on the equity side follow, with the hyperscalers' return on investment turning out lousy.

    2m 43s · from 1:06:03

  4. 4 of 4 prediction

    Ben Inker notes that the internet bubble rolled over before anyone could see the scale of the malinvestment, and says AI could easily follow the same order because data centres are planned years ahead of uncertain demand.

    Inker says AI is already pulling the economy in: with rates where they are, housing and most non-residential construction are close to dead and investment outside AI is falling, while data centres are unaffected. He prefers to invest where others are not, because scarcity is what earns a return.

    2m 27s · from 17:48

Animal Spirits

Are Higher Rates Worse Than ZIRP? | Animal Spirits 486

Hosted by

Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson

14 October 2026 · 1h 13m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Animal Spirits reruns a July 2018 count: the five largest US stocks then equalled the bottom 282 members of the S&P 500 by market value, and today they equal the bottom 434.

    Profits have kept pace with the weights: the top five's trailing 12-month net income equals that of the bottom 436 companies. The hosts add Michael Mauboussin's finding that wide breadth, with many stocks beating the index, tends to arrive in bear markets, as it did in 2001, and point out that small caps, mid caps and the equal-weight index are all up double digits this year.

    5m 24s · from 5:04

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Jason Furman's chart has US real construction spending on data centres up 65% over the year while almost every other category fell, manufacturing by 24%.

    Animal Spirits suggests AI may be crowding out the rest of the build-out, and doubts the other categories recover quickly if AI investment slows, since building work cannot hand over leadership the way stocks can. Manufacturing is the category the tariff programme set out to bring back.

    2m 05s · from 22:14

Capital Allocators

Erlina Yeo TerwelpColumbia Investment Management Company

Managing Director at Columbia Investment Management Company, where she has spent about nine years and now oversees the endowment's private markets portfolio, on a 15-person investment team. She came to it through investment banking at Citi from 2006, private equity, growth equity and four years at a Houston family office.

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Capital Allocators

14 October 2026 · 1h 9m · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    Columbia's endowment ran its portfolio by risk factors years before total portfolio approach was common vocabulary, managing to an equity beta or a range much as a hedge fund would.

    Every opportunity was reduced to its cleanest form: its equity beta, its liquidity and the cost of that liquidity, and its leverage, with very little filling of asset-class buckets. Erlina Yeo Terwelp says the data let the team move quickly, particularly on the public side.

    1m 56s · from 19:39

  2. 2 of 4 framework

    Columbia's Erlina Yeo Terwelp reads a manager's carry allocation as a sign of where the firm sits in its life cycle, and treats carry that does not reflect the talent in the organisation as grounds to leave.

    Fund size growing beyond what the strategy can absorb is the most common reason she gives, treated as arithmetic and analysed afresh even when a fund doubles or triples; the others are a partnership nearing the end of its run and, rarely, information from the manager that proved inaccurate. Staying too long is among the mistakes she owns.

    2m 43s · from 36:14

  3. 3 of 4 current issue

    Columbia is still growing its private markets programme, with little venture exposure and comfortable unfunded commitments, and is spreading venture across vintages because many 2026 rounds are pricing at multiples of six months earlier.

    Erlina Yeo Terwelp argues that companies staying private longer keeps private markets attractive, and that public markets outrunning private ones leaves Columbia room to add. She expects fortunes to be made in the 2026 vintage and wants to be in 2027 and 2028 as well, since the next Nvidia may not be built until 2028.

    2m 54s · from 43:26

  4. 4 of 4 framework

    Erlina Yeo Terwelp, who oversees Columbia's private markets portfolio, names higher interest rates as the largest left-tail risk in buyouts, and re-underwrites managers on how much of their value creation came from operating margins and growth.

    Dearer debt makes the arithmetic harder and leaves revenue and margin expansion to carry returns, so the question is whether a firm's playbook repeats. Her second worry is groupthink in venture, where many investors hold the same companies; the endowment offsets it with buyout funds in high-asset, low-obsolescence (HALO) businesses, a sleeve it set out to build five years ago.

    3m 47s · from 47:41

Insightful Investor

Al ChuMan Group

Al Chu is a natural resources portfolio manager at Man Group, a $253 billion alternatives manager as at June 2026, which he joined in 2023 after senior investment roles at BNY Mellon, Citadel, SAC Capital and Caxton. He has covered energy for 26 years.

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Insightful Investor

13 October 2026 · 55m 52s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Man Group's Al Chu traces tight natural gas, with outages from Iran bidding up LNG, through to next season's crops: in a scarce winter the gas would go to heating before fertiliser plants, and crops short of fertiliser in spring would yield less.

    Chu puts energy under food as well as power, citing a figure of about three tablespoons of diesel to grow a single cherry tomato. Links between assets that stay hidden while supply is ample show through once it tightens, and he finds some of the best investment ideas there.

    2m 04s · from 15:08

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Man Group's Al Chu shows how a bullish gold call can be right by $1,000 an ounce and still barely pay through futures rolled in contango, while an unhedged miner earns more as it sells into the higher curve.

    Physical bullion avoids the roll but carries storage and insurance, and returns one bar for one bar. A miner owns metal in the ground, is often lightly hedged and turns a rising curve into cash flow, dividends and debt repayment while it acquires, discovers or is acquired; the cost is stock-specific risk, such as a mine that disappoints while the metal rallies.

    3m 57s · from 30:31

Invest Like the Best

David VélezNubank

David Vélez founded Nubank in 2013 and runs it as chief executive. It serves 140 million customers with 10,000 employees, including close to 120 million in Brazil, upwards of 65% of the adult population, and he worked as an investor before starting it.

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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

13 October 2026 · 1h 20m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Nubank's David Vélez puts the cost of US banks' deposit pricing to savers at about $600 billion a year: roughly $15 trillion of retail deposits earning an average 40 basis points while policy rates sit near 4.5% to 5%.

    He calls it a wealth tax that pays for branch networks and falls hardest on lower-income savers, since high-income customers do get paid a rate. Remittance fees of 5% to 10% on about $100 billion leaving the US are the same kind of profit pool, and he expects both to be competed towards zero once moving money is simply moving bits.

    1m 15s · from 7:14

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Nubank's David Vélez says the bank missed the December 2025 jump in coding models by 60 days, then set about rebuilding 120 workflows from compliance to regulatory capital around AI and cut its management layers from 10 to five.

    Its engineers had written the models off because they failed on Clojure, a language the bank uses heavily, until tests run after a trip to California showed they now handled it well. Nubank built evaluation infrastructure to measure each workflow at every step of its reinvention, and the redesign allowed wider spans of control, to the point that Vélez went from one direct report to 20.

    2m 56s · from 49:33

Top Traders Unplugged

Andrew Beer

A regular on Top Traders Unplugged's Systematic Investor series who runs a managed futures ETF. He graduated from Harvard Business School in 1994 and has started four asset management businesses, the current one run by seven people.

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Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

13 October 2026 · 1h 18m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Andrew Beer says capital market assumptions amount to 40 market calls plus their correlations, anchored on recent history, and that rebalancing at the end of 2021 had allocators buying bonds at the top of a 20-year bubble.

    A late-1990s academic study found commodity futures gave equity-like returns with negative correlation to equities, and that correlation flipped positive by the mid-2000s. The 60/40 portfolio rests on a similar window, when stocks and bonds moved opposite ways and bonds rarely fell; at end-2021 equities were up 28% for the year while bonds were flat and yielding close to zero, after a year of talk about inflation.

    3m 34s · from 16:48

Excess Returns

Barry Ritholtz and Dave NadigRitholtz Wealth Management; etf.com

Barry Ritholtz is with Ritholtz Wealth Management and writes the blog The Big Picture at ritholtz.com. Dave Nadig's work appears at etf.com.

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Matt Zeigler

13 October 2026 · 1h 6m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Excess Returns' Click Beta panel cites 83% of S&P 500 members down 10% from their 52-week highs in the third quarter, and 42% down 20%, with the index itself at all-time highs.

    The panellist reading the figures is untroubled by Mag 7 concentration as such, since those seven grew through 891 acquisitions over 20 years and each could be split into 10 or 20 index members. The narrowing participation underneath is what he reads as a warning, though not as the end of the bull market.

    2m 00s · from 6:30

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Excess Returns' Click Beta panel puts SpaceX, Anthropic and OpenAI at a combined $5.2 trillion if the next two list at the valuations now discussed, against $4.1 trillion for every US tech IPO from 1980 to 2025.

    One panellist thinks absorbing trillions of dollars of new AI and tech market cap reaches beyond the buyers, since those prices become collateral and anchor large indexes, and that businesses without 100% forward growth rates will be starved of capital. The panel concedes the comparison is not inflation-adjusted and that the listings could come at half those valuations.

    2m 48s · from 8:28

Alt Goes Mainstream

Jeb AltonagaArcesium

SVP of business development for private markets at Arcesium, after 13 years in hedge funds including Citadel, a seat at the family office Blue Pool Capital, bank roles and building a boutique investment bank.

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Michael Sidgmore

13 October 2026 · 54m 58s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Arcesium's Jeb Altonaga believes the BDC run was about exits rather than the loans: investors ran when somebody shouted fire and there were not enough exits.

    His remedy is matching the lock-up to the life of the paper, because a retail buyer drawn by a 14% yield rarely reads what a 5% gate means. A Hong Kong event-driven fund seeded with $250 million by Blackstone grew to $1 billion on an 18-month lock against a five-year horizon, fell back to $250 million when unlocked investors ran during a drawdown, and still hit its target over five years.

    3m 39s · from 44:27

Flirting with Models

Philip Maymin and Allan MayminJanus Henderson

Philip and Allan Maymin co-head global asset allocation at Janus Henderson, in the group Myron Scholes founded there more than a decade ago, and draw risk signals from option prices across more than 4,000 assets. Philip started at LTCM in the 1990s; Allan came through high-frequency trading, sell-side derivatives and prop trading.

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Corey Hoffstein

12 October 2026 · 1h 4m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Janus Henderson's Maymins read the 60/40 portfolio as a disguised drawdown budget: 60% in equities that might fall 50% in a crisis, with bonds assumed fairly uncorrelated, gives roughly the 30% loss an institution might reckon it can claw back from.

    Once the drawdown is named as the real constraint, a static mix stops being the only way to meet it, and 2022 showed the bond leg falling alongside equities. Over 100 to 150 years stocks and bonds have more often moved together, which the team argues is what two asset classes with positive expected returns should do, so exposure is managed dynamically against the budget.

    2m 39s · from 25:48

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Janus Henderson's asset allocation group treats risk as the lever on compounding, citing a 1980 Merton result that an average return can take decades of data to tell apart from zero.

    Compound return is roughly the average less a drag from risk, so enough noise on any positive alpha eventually loses money. Risk estimates sharpen as the same period is cut from monthly to daily to hourly, with no need to reach back to a 1970s IBM that no longer exists, and knowledge of managing changing environments accumulates where an alpha source can vanish.

    3m 05s · from 13:51

Excess Returns

Ed Yardeni, Chris Davis, Robert Hagstrom, Katie Stockton and Tom Maher

Each appears in an excerpt from a longer interview the show ran this week. Chris Davis of Davis Funds and Robert Hagstrom have been friends for some 40 years; Tom Maher manages small and mid-cap stocks.

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Jack Forehand and Matt Zeigler

12 October 2026 · 46m 43s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Chris Davis suspects, on what he calls a tinfoil-hat theory, that venture investors keep companies private longer so that index funds become an automatic buyer of half the company at any price.

    Indexing, on his account, multiplies momentum: the more a stock rises the more weight it takes, and money moving from active to passive amplifies that, so at the end of a bull market the index is in a way a momentum fund. Venture owners holding 80% to 90% of SpaceX, Anthropic or OpenAI would meet a ready buyer for 50% to 60% once they list.

    4m 06s · from 12:00

Hidden Forces

Jim BiancoBianco Research

Founder of Bianco Research and Bianco Advisors, a shop of fewer than ten people that writes on bonds, the economy and inflation for professional investors. Here he explains why he has turned bullish on bonds for the first time in six years, after arguing they were overvalued.

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Demetri Kofinas

12 October 2026 · 53m 04s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    JPMorgan's list of 41 AI-related companies makes up 49% of the S&P 500 by value, and Jim Bianco says the last time a single theme held more than half the US market was probably the railroad boom of the 19th century.

    Adding SpaceX, OpenAI and Anthropic once they float and qualify would take the share to about 55%. On his count 70% of US stock gains from ChatGPT's launch on 29 November 2022 came from those companies, and foreign capital keeps arriving because neither Asia nor Europe offers the same exposure.

    2m 14s · from 12:02

Merryn Talks Money

Adam RozencwajgGoehring & Rozencwajg

Co-founder and portfolio manager at Goehring & Rozencwajg, which runs a natural resource equities strategy; he has run it for about 20 years, alongside a partner with 35 years in the sector.

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Merryn Somerset Webb

12 October 2026 · 49m 14s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Adam Rozencwajg argues that the 6 million barrels a day of oil demand said to have vanished since the Strait of Hormuz closed is lost refining capacity, not lost consumption.

    Demand is modelled mainly from refinery intake, and the war has removed 6 million barrels a day of refining: 2 million in Russia from Ukrainian strikes, 2 million in the Gulf and 2 million in China by policy. A real fall that size would rival COVID while GDP prints stay positive almost everywhere, so he reads a crude shortage that has yet to reach the price.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    4m 52s · from 33:47

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Adam Rozencwajg says US shale has peaked, with growth slowing every year from 2020 and now close to an outright fall, after the firm's own neural network on well productivity called the slowdown in 2019 and 2020.

    The firm had used the same Hubbert-style basin analysis in the early 2000s to call the roll-over of the North Sea and Cantarell. The 1970s set the precedent he leans on: oil rose 15-fold and US producers drilled four times as many wells, yet the country still lost 30% of its production.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    3m 11s · from 29:38

Big Technology Podcast

Ranjan RoyMargins

Ranjan Roy of Margins joins the show every Friday for its weekly discussion of technology news.

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Alex Kantrowitz

12 October 2026 · 52m 17s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    A Financial Times report putting OpenAI's annualised revenue this year at $50 billion rather than $70 billion knocked roughly 3% to 8% off Nvidia, Oracle, CoreWeave and AMD, and the hosts put the gap down to accounting method.

    The earlier $70 billion was some OpenAI investors' tally, counting sales through cloud vendors such as Google Cloud the way Anthropic counts its own; OpenAI's own method leaves them out. The hosts argue those partner sales belong in sales and marketing expense, not top-line revenue, which leaves the two labs' revenue figures on different bases.

    2m 46s · from 32:44

All-In

Martin Shkreli

Martin Shkreli started at Jim Cramer's hedge fund at 16, later started his own fund, and built two drug companies on molecules bought from large pharma; he named sparsentan, now FDA-approved. He has since served a prison sentence, which the episode discusses.

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All-In

12 October 2026 · 25m 16s · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Martin Shkreli says big pharma sold molecules far below their worth, and that his first drug company started on a $2 million purchase from Bristol-Myers Squibb and is now worth about $6 billion.

    He says the sellers did not care: Pfizer would part with a drug worth a billion dollars for a million. He found the alpha in that market for molecules rather than in public companies, and the constraint was finding people to vet the assets.

    2m 16s · from 8:52

Conversations with Institutional Investors

John PearceUniSuper

John Pearce was chief investment officer of UniSuper when this 2021 conversation was recorded, running a fund of over $100 billion with about 70% managed in-house. He started in the back office of Westpac Investment Management and earlier headed global asset management at Ping An.

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Wouter Klijn

11 October 2026 · 44m 11s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    UniSuper held a portfolio insurance position with a face value of $9.6 billion on its defined benefit fund, bought in 2019 at around 1%, and did not cash it in when COVID marked it up into the billions.

    Pearce compares cashing it in to surrendering a house insurance policy with the fire across the road. With the defined benefit fund in surplus and protected, the team could tell members to rest easy and buy more risk assets at the bottom of the market.

    1m 24s · from 11:47

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    UniSuper found that running money itself turned manager meetings from an hour on the manager's favourite stocks into a two-way exchange where bluffing gets called, and a couple of managers have missed out on mandates because they were not comfortable sharing information.

    Pearce keeps external manager selection inside the same team that runs the in-house portfolios, so the people questioning a manager are managing money too. The same capability lets UniSuper tailor mandates, such as a high-yield book barred from energy and an Asian bond portfolio barred from property developers before Evergrande.

    3m 14s · from 16:06

Excess Returns

Brent KochubaSpotGamma

Brent Kochuba of SpotGamma, which sells options-flow and dealer-positioning analysis, joins Excess Returns each month ahead of options expiration to read how options hedging is moving the stocks underneath the index. By his account a third of SpotGamma's members are outside the US.

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Jack Forehand

11 October 2026 · 1h 0m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    SpotGamma's Brent Kochuba puts zero-day options at something like 70% or more of combined S&P 500 and Nasdaq index options volume, and expiries of five days or less at 85% or more of QQQ volume.

    Kochuba names retail sellers of index options, algorithmic strips he thinks come from pod shops or high-frequency firms, and dispersion trades of index against single-stock options. He finds it remarkable that none of this flow has broken the market, the tariff drama included.

    4m 32s · from 16:03

The Investor's Podcast Network

Michael MoritzSequoia Capital

Sir Michael Moritz spent about 38 years at Sequoia Capital, leading or co-leading the firm for around 16 of them, and worked on its early investments in Google, YouTube, PayPal, Airbnb, LinkedIn and Stripe. Before that he was at Time magazine from about 1979 to 1984, latterly in San Francisco covering Apple and Microsoft.

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William Green

11 October 2026 · 1h 31m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Michael Moritz says that when someone suggests selling a stock because it trades at an all-time high, he asks how many days Amazon has traded at one in its 30 or so years as a public company.

    Charlie Munger, as the host reads him, said Moritz was not the leading intellect among Sequoia's early partners but did better than all of them because he held on to everything. Moritz replies that most investors, Berkshire Hathaway aside, are congenitally unable to do nothing.

    5m 08s · from 1:16:06

AI 15 October 2026 · 39 clips

a16z

Nathan LambertTrillium

AI researcher and founder of Trillium, a new nonprofit research lab, who previously co-led post-training at AI2. He writes the Interconnects newsletter.

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Lisha Li

14 October 2026 · 58m 49s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 explainer

    Nathan Lambert relays that an average OpenAI researcher has about 5,000 H100-equivalent GPUs on call, a figure that stuns top Chinese pre-training researchers, and puts the gap between Chinese labs and the closed frontier labs mainly down to compute, with talent close to even.

    A model's outputs are a function of the compute behind them, which makes distilling a stronger model a way of buying compute indirectly. Lambert's evidence that the effect is modest comes from open post-training work: training on a strong model's reasoning traces has not reliably lifted results, and fully open recipes are still stuck on an outdated Qwen teacher, so he credits distillation with a few months of progress.

    4m 27s · from 8:50

  2. 2 of 3 framework

    Nathan Lambert argues open and closed AI models run on different clocks: closed labs reach the high-value markets first, as coding revenue has gone from zero towards $100 billion, while the open economy builds slowly towards companies owning their models.

    Closed labs own the whole chain, serving at scale and seeing what customers need, while in the open economy the model builder, the inference host and the fine-tuning shop are separate firms, customer information does not flow back, and margins are thinner. What comes out the other end is weights a company runs on its own hardware with no terms and conditions.

    2m 14s · from 19:28

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    Nathan Lambert argues much of the frontier progress outside maths and code comes from labs buying high-quality data and building worlds for models to practise in, and expects years of it, sector by sector.

    Maths, code and distributed engineering are verifiable, so models can drive their own costs down there; biology, healthcare and law are not, and each needs someone at a lab to define the target behaviour and buy the data for it, which Lambert calls very capital intensive.

    2m 18s · from 24:59

Latent Space

Valentin De Matos, Yazin and Marko Kraemer

The three finalists among 72 teams in Latent Space's Kill My SaaS contest, judged by AI Engineer's events team under its head of operations, Kelsey.

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Latent Space

13 October 2026 · 28m 05s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    AI Engineer was quoted $43,000 a year for software to manage speakers across its four conferences, and asked builders to clone it with coding agents instead.

    The team used maybe a third of what the vendor sold, with no discount for the rest, and change requests often took something like three to six months to ship, or never shipped. After seven AI Engineer events, the team already knew how bad this category of software is.

    1m 19s · from 1:06

a16z

Dhaval Adjodah and Owen HeMakerMaker.AI

Dhaval Adjodah and Owen He co-founded MakerMaker.AI, which is building a recursively self-improving AI system. Adjodah did a PhD in reinforcement learning at the MIT Media Lab; He did his PhD on continual learning and meta-learning and spent a few years as a research scientist at DeepMind.

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Martin Casado

12 October 2026 · 32m 06s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    MakerMaker's founders apply Amdahl's law to self-improving AI: where the digital step is a fifth of the work, even a millionfold speed-up on it saves at most that fifth, so drug discovery, they expect, stays paced by wet labs and clinical trials.

    Coding and mathematics, where an idea can be checked quickly and cheaply, are where they expect gains to compound. Anywhere evaluation means moving atoms, the slowest physical step sets the pace, which they read as intelligence behaving like a vector with different growth rates by field.

    1m 28s · from 27:52

20VC

Mike Cannon-BrookesAtlassian

Co-founder and chief executive of Atlassian, the company behind Jira, Confluence, Trello and Loom, which generated $6.5 billion in ARR in 2026 and serves more than 350,000 customers, including over 85% of the Fortune 500.

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Harry Stebbings

12 October 2026 · 58m 54s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 prediction

    Mike Cannon-Brookes says most companies announcing their own model have fine-tuned a Chinese open-weight one, and a model said to cost a million dollars to train is usually someone else's billion-dollar model, tailored.

    His test for a specialised model is whether it keeps beating the latest general model on price performance, which needs a continuing proprietary data set and a problem the general models do not absorb. Many startups that built their own models two or three years ago have, he thinks, been overtaken by the foundation models; harness design matters now, but better base models lift a lot of harnesses with them.

    4m 56s · from 20:40

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Atlassian keeps Chinese models out of production because some customers push back, though Mike Cannon-Brookes reports none against open models.

    Atlassian runs Nvidia's Nemotron, Mistral and other open models instead, since the objection is to provenance and not openness. He doubts the line holds: a lot of US models are increasingly trained on Chinese ones without saying so, enterprises already run Linux with a large Chinese share of contributions, and turning down a cheaper, better model whose contents are known looks to him a hard long-term choice.

    3m 00s · from 17:44

The Real Eisman Playbook

Gary Marcus

Gary Marcus is an AI critic and recurring guest on the show, the author of Taming Silicon Valley, who briefed senators and their staff on AI in 2023 and gave the framing remarks at a UN event on AI policy days before this recording.

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Steve Eisman

12 October 2026 · 46m 35s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Gary Marcus argues AI doomers have worked practically as a marketing arm for OpenAI and Anthropic, because every warning that the technology could kill everyone tells investors it is powerful.

    Investors hear the power and discount the danger, and the safety groups raise their own money on the same story, so warnings that look independent end up validating the labs. Marcus thinks the funding Sam Altman and Dario Amodei have raised would have been smaller without them.

    3m 34s · from 17:17

Big Technology Podcast

Ranjan RoyMargins

Ranjan Roy of Margins joins the show every Friday for its weekly discussion of technology news.

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Alex Kantrowitz

12 October 2026 · 52m 17s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    The Information reports that Microsoft has cut its planned internal Claude spend of at least $1 billion by more than a third, and Meta's Claude Code users have fallen from about 60,000 to about 30,000.

    Saving cost and moving staff onto homegrown tools drove the Microsoft reduction, while Muse Code, built on Meta's own models, has passed 6,000 employees using it even as 28-day spend there still topped $105 million. The hosts note that two customers made up 25% of Anthropic's revenue at the end of 2025, and argue its IPO will turn on projected growth.

    3m 57s · from 1:43

Investment 12 October 2026 · 77 clips

Excess Returns

Colin McQueenT. Rowe Price

Colin McQueen is a portfolio manager in T. Rowe Price's global equity division, billed by the show as a $17 billion international manager. He started in 1989 at Phillips & Drew, the UK value house later absorbed into UBS, and spent time on Morgan Stanley's global value team before joining T. Rowe Price.

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Justin Carbonneau and Jack Forehand

17 October 2026 · 1h 2m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Colin McQueen of T. Rowe Price finds international stocks cheaper than US ones in 9 of 11 industries against developed markets, and in all 11 once emerging markets are added; tech is the industry that flips.

    Reweighting international markets to the US's 40% in tech would close perhaps half the PE gap, an adjustment McQueen doubts because it would scale an ASML-led tech sector from about 11% of the index to a weight no portfolio holds. He points to earnings instead: international companies grew about 1% a year against 8% for the S&P 500 from 2010 to 2019, and about 4.5% against 8% since.

    4m 23s · from 29:32

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    The Tokyo Stock Exchange now ties listing and index membership to a plan from any company trading below book value, and T. Rowe Price's Colin McQueen thinks the market already knows the story at the large caps.

    Hitachi, a conglomerate on eight times earnings a decade ago, set its first return-on-capital target at 8%, which it was not then making, then sold weaker businesses and now earns mid-teens returns and margins. McQueen now looks to mid and small caps and to the rest of Asia, and worries that a yen far from purchasing power parity flatters exporters' cash flows.

    3m 32s · from 39:21

Top Traders Unplugged

Christian Mueller-GlissmannGoldman Sachs

Christian Mueller-Glissmann is head of asset allocation research at Goldman Sachs.

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Cem Karsan

17 October 2026 · 1h 10m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Goldman Sachs' Christian Mueller-Glissmann traces the gap between a Shiller PE in the 40s, near tech-bubble levels, and the forward multiple to S&P 500 earnings running far above their ten-year average since COVID.

    He argues some of the rise in earnings may be structural because profitability has risen: S&P 500 return on equity is about 24% against below 20% five years ago, and the hyperscalers earned returns in the 40s before the AI capex began. Even if returns slide with depreciation and disappointing investments, he expects a slow, stock-by-stock decline in place of the sharp index falls of the tech bust.

    1m 59s · from 14:57

20VC

Harrison ChaseLangChain

Harrison Chase is co-founder and CEO of LangChain, which builds developer tools for AI agents and has announced about $160 million in funding, the last round at a $1.25 billion valuation. LangChain works with 35% of the Fortune 500 and has passed one billion open-source downloads.

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20VC

17 October 2026 · 1h 3m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    20VC's host argues Anthropic's valuation turns on what coding agents cost as a share of engineering salary; Harrison Chase thinks that is probably right, and adds that software engineering is the only place he has seen agents have an effect so far.

    Chase sees two futures: far smaller teams whose agent spend matches salary or runs to an order of magnitude more, or fewer, better-paid engineers driving the agents with spend that may stay about the same. LangChain still needs many people reviewing and communicating, so he finds the two-year number hard to call; the upside he sees for the labs lies in the domains agents have not yet reached.

    3m 05s · from 41:44

The Meb Faber Show

Dirk WillerCiti

Dirk Willer is head of global macro, asset allocation and emerging market strategy at Citi, where his team includes a large quant group that backtests the rules he trades by. His book, Trading Global Macro Markets, came out last spring.

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Meb Faber

16 October 2026 · 48m 17s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Citi's Dirk Willer finds real yields did all the work in the long-end sell-off, which he reads as the bond market pricing stronger growth, not a fiscal problem or a Fed losing credibility.

    Breakevens stayed well behaved, and asset swap spreads, where heavy bond supply usually shows most clearly, never really moved. Willer thinks the Treasury still has firepower: at the November refunding it could sell fewer coupons and more bills, a shift to shorter duration that worked in the 2023 buyer strike, and one he expects the Fed and a debt-ceiling drawdown of the Treasury's general account to help absorb.

    3m 29s · from 13:45

The Credit Edge

Bryan WhalenTCW

Bryan Whalen is chief investment officer of TCW's fixed income group, which oversees about $160 billion, and a generalist portfolio manager with 30 years in bond markets. His background includes MetWest, Credit Suisse and DLJ.

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James Crombie and Jody Lurie

15 October 2026 · 52m 39s · 1 clip below

  1. prediction

    Bryan Whalen of TCW reads stress in CCC credit, which he puts at about 15% of leveraged finance, as an early warning that reaches single-B and then double-B borrowers next.

    The hosts put the CCC pool at about $250 billion of bonds and loans, borrowing at roughly triple the cost of five years ago, with another half a trillion rated B-minus just above it. Whalen expects the severity to fade as stress climbs the ratings, and argues portfolio risk lives in the tails because they seep into the middle of the distribution.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 46s · from 31:33

BG2 Pod

Jensen HuangNVIDIA

Jensen Huang leads NVIDIA, which he puts at about 80% of AI infrastructure revenue. This is his third BG2 conversation, recorded days after he received the National Medal of Science.

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Brad Gerstner and Clark Tang

15 October 2026 · 1h 39m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Jensen Huang argues that NVIDIA's general-purpose design is what makes a $50 billion data centre financeable, because compute that can run any model for any customer can be re-let if plans change.

    His chain runs from fungibility across workloads, models, customers and regions, to durability, rentability and finally financeability and the lowest total cost of ownership; an owner can sublease half its capacity if it has to. Midway, the hosts note that consensus went from expecting NVIDIA's revenue to be flat or shrinking in 2027 to forecasting 74% growth within a year.

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Top Traders Unplugged

Andrew Beer

A regular on Top Traders Unplugged's Systematic Investor series who runs a managed futures ETF. He graduated from Harvard Business School in 1994 and has started four asset management businesses, the current one run by seven people.

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Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

13 October 2026 · 1h 18m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 explainer

    Andrew Beer's figures show the diversifiers that rose in the dot-com crash failing in one or both of the next two equity bear markets, while the SG CTA Index rose in all three.

    Bonds returned 30% around 2000-01, only held level in the GFC, then fell 15% to 20% with equities in 2022, and REITs went from up 49% to down 50%. Beer attributes the CTA record (26% in the first crisis, 11% in the second) to managers holding positions through big moves away from consensus, and reads it as structural.

    5m 09s · from 29:44

  2. 2 of 3 explainer

    Andrew Beer puts the SG CTA Index's worst drawdown in 27 years at 16%, close to the US Aggregate bond index's 17%, while the average worst drawdown of its individual funds is closer to 25%.

    Trend followers cut losing positions, so an 87% fall in commodities never sits in the book the way it sits in a long-only index. The comparison that hurt them was with bonds: the Aggregate's worst fall from 2000 to 2020 was under 4%, which made the strategy's routine 5% to 10% drawdowns look like failure.

    3m 20s · from 40:15

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    Andrew Beer puts the SG CTA Index's Sharpe ratio at 0.34 over roughly 27 years, close to the roughly 0.4 of equities and bonds and well short of the hedge fund figures the strategy gets measured against.

    Illiquid funds that do not mark to market and selection bias in hedge fund data both inflate that comparison, so Beer argues the strategy belongs beside liquid assets, in ETFs and mutual funds. The index's returns also arrive in lumps: after 13% in 2008 it made nothing for five years, and after 20% in 2022 it earned less than cash for three.

    5m 09s · from 45:39

Insightful Investor

Al ChuMan Group

Al Chu is a natural resources portfolio manager at Man Group, a $253 billion alternatives manager as at June 2026, which he joined in 2023 after senior investment roles at BNY Mellon, Citadel, SAC Capital and Caxton. He has covered energy for 26 years.

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Insightful Investor

13 October 2026 · 55m 52s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Man Group's Al Chu argues time is the most mispriced factor in commodities: copper demand is visible now, but a new mine takes 10 to 20 years to bring online on conservative estimates.

    Chu notes the world consumes more of nearly every commodity year after year, with oil the main exception, so most price cycles start on the supply side. His cobweb example is a farm: a drought price signal reaches every grower at once, the crop takes six months or more, and it all lands together as a glut, while demand barely falls when prices spike.

    3m 10s · from 20:04

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Man Group's Al Chu says the gap between the top and bottom halves of a commodity index runs above 40% in almost every year, a dispersion he says only technology exceeds.

    Last year silver doubled to record highs while oil was, as he recalls it, at one point down 20%; this year the order has reversed. In an index the moves net out to a grey middle, and because most long-only money in the space sits in passive products, he argues the few active managers face less competition for that spread.

    3m 29s · from 34:27

Invest Like the Best

David VélezNubank

David Vélez founded Nubank in 2013 and runs it as chief executive. It serves 140 million customers with 10,000 employees, including close to 120 million in Brazil, upwards of 65% of the adult population, and he worked as an investor before starting it.

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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

13 October 2026 · 1h 20m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 framework

    Nubank's David Vélez argues an AI-native start-up can now rebuild a bank's software but not its licences or its data, and puts Nubank's data at something like 20,000 to 30,000 points per customer across 13 years for 140 million customers.

    An AI-native start-up moves fastest while it is unregulated, he says, and in banking it eventually needs licences that take two to three years to obtain. Nubank's data trains a credit foundation model it built itself, which is why he places scaled digital banks holding licences, data and modern systems as the firms AI helps most.

    1m 58s · from 15:06

  2. 2 of 3 prediction

    Nubank's David Vélez expects the world's roughly 190 currencies to shrink to perhaps 10 within 10 to 20 years, and argues dollar stablecoins will help keep the US dollar a reserve currency, though not the only one.

    He expects savers to move between their country's fiat system and an offshore one in dollar stablecoins and Bitcoin, because many emerging-market fiscal positions are worse than the deteriorating US one, and he sees demand for a dollar stablecoin and very little for a Brazilian one. Beside the dollar he expects perhaps five or six other fiat currencies to hold savings.

    2m 29s · from 26:05

  3. 3 of 3 framework

    Nubank's David Vélez says it earns two to three times the return on equity of incumbent banks in its markets while charging no fees, and that some US incumbents now earn more than some of the emerging-market banks Nubank competes with.

    He reads a higher return on less revenue as the signature of a cost advantage in a commodity product, once customer growth, net promoter score and LTV to CAC show the growth was not bought with marketing. Borrowing Amazon's line that a rival's margin is an entrant's opportunity, he treats the US banks' returns, earned on top of branch costs, as room to undercut.

    2m 20s · from 39:19

Excess Returns

Barry Ritholtz and Dave NadigRitholtz Wealth Management; etf.com

Barry Ritholtz is with Ritholtz Wealth Management and writes the blog The Big Picture at ritholtz.com. Dave Nadig's work appears at etf.com.

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Matt Zeigler

13 October 2026 · 1h 6m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Excess Returns' Click Beta panel counts bonds financing the AI and data-centre build-out, nominally rated A yet yielding well above Treasuries, among the forces pushing yields higher, alongside Japanese government bonds paying a yield for the first time in decades.

    With the build-out at half a trillion dollars now and $4 to $7 trillion on some estimates, the panel asks whether the paper deserves its rating or is being bought by investors reaching for yield. If chips keep improving at Moore's-law pace, a data centre the size of seven football fields may need only 5% to 10% of its space within ten to twenty years.

    1m 26s · from 11:18

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Ritholtz Wealth Management pointed Enterprise Claude at a data lake pooling Schwab, Fidelity, Orion and Salesforce records, and got in a day the household rebalancing screen that would have taken six people weeks.

    The screen layered accounts drifted more than 3%, 5% and 10% from their stock-bond targets, clients over 60 or retiring within five years, households above $10 million and those worried about capital gains, then flagged households whose harvested losses take the gains out of the question. An adviser with 100 clients gets six to call now and the next 20 after, so a shift towards bonds no longer takes two months to implement.

    4m 30s · from 15:26

Forward Guidance

Johann Kerbrat and Vlad NovakovskiRobinhood and Lighter

Johann Kerbrat leads the crypto business at Robinhood, where he has worked for about six years; Robinhood has 27 million funded accounts in the US. Vlad Novakovski is Lighter's founder and chief executive and has been building it for four years, after starting his career at Citadel.

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Felix Jauvin

13 October 2026 · 20m 04s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Robinhood says more than 70% of trading in its stock tokens happens while the exchanges are shut, mostly overnight and at weekends.

    Lighter builds an order book that can fall back on an AMM when the more sophisticated market makers step back, so traders pay a little more spread and keep access to the market. Robinhood, which began its 24/5 trading on a few tickers because liquidity was thinner, concedes that a weekend trade may carry a small premium or price difference against Monday's open.

    3m 26s · from 3:11

Hidden Forces

Jim BiancoBianco Research

Founder of Bianco Research and Bianco Advisors, a shop of fewer than ten people that writes on bonds, the economy and inflation for professional investors. Here he explains why he has turned bullish on bonds for the first time in six years, after arguing they were overvalued.

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Demetri Kofinas

12 October 2026 · 53m 04s · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    Jim Bianco argues Treasury yields should match expected nominal growth, which he puts at 5% to 6% for the US, and notes every yield from the five-year to the 30-year has moved into that range for the first time in 20 years.

    Japan once had zero rates with zero nominal growth and Venezuela rates over 100% with growth to match, his two examples. With rates below nominal growth, cheap money lets below-average investments earn positive carry, which he argues was part of the reason for the zombie companies and weak recovery of 2010 to 2015; bonds are no longer expensive on his reading, though not yet cheap.

    4m 31s · from 41:13

  2. 2 of 4 explainer

    Jim Bianco traces stubborn 3% US inflation to goods prices, which fell 0.5% a year for 18 years after China joined the WTO and have risen 1.8% a year since COVID.

    Services prices rose at least 2% a year throughout that period and are pushing the high 3s today, leaving no offset to flatter central bankers. His worry is a floor under inflation, and with real growth near 2.5% it puts US nominal GDP at about 5.5%.

    2m 12s · from 3:03

  3. 3 of 4 current issue

    Jim Bianco puts US consumer prices up 31% since April 2020 against 26% for average hourly earnings, with asset owners covering the gap from their homes and portfolios.

    Mark Zandi's estimate at Moody's, as Bianco cites it, has the top 20% of households making half of all US retail sales, the most concentrated on record. Bianco's reading is that this spending comes from awarded stock and rising house prices, so the headline economy now moves with asset markets more than with wages.

    5m 05s · from 5:13

  4. 4 of 4 explainer

    Jim Bianco argues US job numbers that look weak, 29,000 in September and about 60,000 a month this year, are good ones, because the working-age population now grows by only about 30,000 people a month.

    Below-replacement fertility, legal immigration near 600,000 a year and illegal immigration close to zero leave the 15-to-64 pool barely growing, and by 2030 more Americans will turn 65 than turn 15. Measured against that, a six-month average near 65,000 jobs, unemployment around 4.1% to 4.2% and four-week jobless claims of 198,000 describe a labour market doing well enough.

    2m 41s · from 16:16

Flirting with Models

Philip Maymin and Allan MayminJanus Henderson

Philip and Allan Maymin co-head global asset allocation at Janus Henderson, in the group Myron Scholes founded there more than a decade ago, and draw risk signals from option prices across more than 4,000 assets. Philip started at LTCM in the 1990s; Allan came through high-frequency trading, sell-side derivatives and prop trading.

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Corey Hoffstein

12 October 2026 · 1h 4m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 explainer

    Janus Henderson's Maymins set the tail correlation between stocks and bonds from where each one's volatility sits in its own history: both in the top quartile suggests plus one, one in the top quartile and one in the bottom suggests minus one.

    Correlation in the middle of the distribution can swing from -0.3 to +0.3 and is hard to pin down; in a crash the team takes its magnitude as one and leaves only the sign open. Its optimiser divides expected tail gain by expected tail loss squared, so the downside correlation is the only one it needs to estimate well, blended with recent high-frequency measures.

    2m 56s · from 39:19

  2. 2 of 3 explainer

    Janus Henderson's asset allocation team says discarding the middle 80% of a return distribution leaves 80% to 90% of the risk intact, which is why it reads the tails from option prices and lets the drift go.

    The standard objection is that options are priced under the risk-neutral measure, not the real-world one. The team's answer is that the two differ mainly in drift, as Black and Scholes showed in 1973, while the shape of the tails holds up, and that it reads changes in the signal over time and across assets, such as persistent call buying in one asset and nowhere else.

    2m 27s · from 21:13

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Myron Scholes, as Janus Henderson's Maymins relay it, will judge dynamic risk management mainstream when institutions replace static benchmarks such as the S&P 500 or 60/40 with drawdown-based ones.

    A buy-and-hold position is not passive in risk terms, the argument runs: volatile months carry far more of a year's risk than quiet ones, so a fixed dollar exposure concentrates risk in time the way an unbalanced portfolio concentrates it in one asset. Benchmark-relative mandates and mechanical rebalancing are what keep many of the biggest investors from acting on this now.

    3m 55s · from 54:06

Merryn Talks Money

Adam RozencwajgGoehring & Rozencwajg

Co-founder and portfolio manager at Goehring & Rozencwajg, which runs a natural resource equities strategy; he has run it for about 20 years, alongside a partner with 35 years in the sector.

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Merryn Somerset Webb

12 October 2026 · 49m 14s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Adam Rozencwajg says new commodity supply takes 10 to 15 years to answer a price signal, and that the lag is lengthening as easy deposits run out and permitting slows.

    The lesson came from 2012, when resource stocks near 10 times earnings looked too cheap to be a top while a capex boom that began in the early 2000s and peaked around 2010 or 2011 was about to deliver Australian iron ore, Indonesian coal and US shale. Everything invested after mid-cycle is excess, so the supply that ends a deficit arrives with more still behind it.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    5m 08s · from 4:15

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Goehring & Rozencwajg extended the commodities-to-stocks ratio back to 1900, and Adam Rozencwajg says the only time commodities have been cheaper on it was the 2020 bottom.

    The ratio moves in a stable band with a period of 10 to 15 years, and a low reading likely means capital is draining out of the extractive industries into indices dominated by tech, so it doubles as a gauge of the capital cycle. Upstream oil spending of about $500 billion a year is, in real terms, well short of the last peak.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 17s · from 11:13

Monetary Matters

Charles LemonidesValueWorks LLC

CIO and founder of ValueWorks LLC, a long-short value manager that runs a dozen or more themes at a time with core positions of 5% to 7%. He has published market commentary for more than 20 years and was writing about Micron in 2000.

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Max Wiethe

12 October 2026 · 56m 55s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Charles Lemonides of ValueWorks argues ride-share and grocery delivery are not winner-take-all, because drivers and shoppers are a marginal cost that does not fall with scale, and that driverless cars will be a commodity favouring whoever already owns the riders.

    Waymo is a threat only if it stays the sole operator with autonomous vehicles; Lemonides expects Rivian, Tesla and later GM to sell self-driving cars that Uber and Lyft can put on their networks, leaving the customer base as the scarce asset. The case fails if autonomy stays proprietary to one operator long enough for it to build its own riders.

    4m 27s · from 21:03

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Charles Lemonides thinks some holders of Texas Pacific Land count its income twice: the land is worth about $2,500 an acre only because of the water and other businesses run on it.

    A million acres at $2,500 is about $2.5 billion, with mineral rights probably worth another couple of billion dollars; Lemonides illustrates the double count with an office owner whose buildings and rent roll are each valued in full and then added together. The host, who owns the stock, is open to the argument that it is richly valued but points to its long-run record.

    2m 23s · from 38:19

Macro Musings

John RolleCentral Bank of The Bahamas

Governor of the Central Bank of The Bahamas, which has held the Bahamian dollar at one-to-one with the US dollar since the 1960s. A longtime veteran of the institution, with earlier time at the IMF.

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David Beckworth

12 October 2026 · 56m 03s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    John Rolle wants the Bahamian domestic banks' risk-weighted capital ratios, above 30% on the Basel measure, brought down a bit over time, so that idle capital and liquidity do not fuel an unsustainable credit surge when exuberance returns.

    The Central Bank of The Bahamas does not yet use countercyclical buffers and prefers to hold one good standing buffer, and Rolle relies on capital controls to unwind the excess at a more comfortable pace than might otherwise be the case. Beckworth raises the counter-case some would make: a ratio that high is growth the economy is not getting.

    2m 30s · from 26:04

The Pomp Podcast

Chris Camillo

Chris Camillo is a self-taught investor known for social arbitrage investing and the host of Dumb Money Live. He trades his own account, which he says has returned 50% to 80% a year for 18 years, and holds stakes in about 180 early-stage companies.

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Anthony Pompliano

12 October 2026 · 44m 35s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Chris Camillo has built his career on online conversation because people talk about a purchase, a trip or a move to the cloud before and while they make it, which puts the signal ahead of the credit card data most hedge funds rely on.

    Camillo concedes conversational data, though free, is open to interpretation and has no history correlated with any company's revenue, since even the way people speak changes over time. He treats one source as the start of a thesis and counts how many others line up, from search and web traffic to store-manager interviews and transaction data; that count sets his conviction.

    2m 30s · from 10:09

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Chris Camillo says an AWS revenue beat was already consensus, and his edge on Amazon's results was predicting that Andy Jassy would meet the capex worry head-on, as Microsoft had two or three days earlier.

    Investors had marked Amazon's shares down over capex for the previous four months, Microsoft had met the same worry on its call and been rewarded, and Camillo bet Jassy had listened. On his account Amazon then lifted capex from $200 billion to $220 billion and said it had demand for every dollar of it.

    3m 16s · from 15:53

Excess Returns

Ed Yardeni, Chris Davis, Robert Hagstrom, Katie Stockton and Tom Maher

Each appears in an excerpt from a longer interview the show ran this week. Chris Davis of Davis Funds and Robert Hagstrom have been friends for some 40 years; Tom Maher manages small and mid-cap stocks.

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Jack Forehand and Matt Zeigler

12 October 2026 · 46m 43s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Excess Returns puts the correlation between the equal-weight and cap-weighted S&P 500 near the low of its data series, with roughly 10% of the Russell 3000 carrying a negative beta to its own index.

    One host thinks the correlation now sits below the level where it usually bottoms, and the hosts read the dispersion as an opening for active managers. They tie it to a point from Einhorn that rests on Mike Green's: with money moving to passive, fewer people watch small caps, so a re-rating cannot be assumed and returns have to come from earnings growth, buybacks and dividends.

    1m 32s · from 35:16

Alpha Exchange

Chris Hentemann400 Capital Management

Chris Hentemann founded 400 Capital Management in October 2008 with about $2.5 million, mostly his own money, and has built it to roughly $8 billion in asset-based and securitised credit. Before that he ran structured products at Bank of America, after starting at First Boston in 1990 and moving through Salomon Brothers.

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Dean Curnutt

9 October 2026 · 1h 0m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    400 Capital's Chris Hentemann is wary of financing data-centre shells, doubting their alternative use, and lends instead against turbines and power equipment that have secondary markets and buyers beyond any single project.

    Much data-centre lending is in substance a loan to the tenant, a cash-rich technology company with little debt, and reading corporate credit of that kind is not where his firm's edge lies. 400 Capital wants to be made whole from the asset if the borrower fails, and office, where few expected 30% of space to go dark, is his warning on assuming a building outlives its tenant's purpose.

    3m 43s · from 47:10

Excess Returns

Chris Davis and Robert HagstromDavis Funds; EquityCompass

Chris Davis is chairman and portfolio manager at Davis Funds, with his own money invested in the funds beside his clients'. Robert Hagstrom is CIO of EquityCompass, runs its Global Leaders Portfolio and wrote The Warren Buffett Way; he did his practical training with Bill Miller.

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Matt Zeigler and Bogumil Baranowski

9 October 2026 · 1h 13m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 framework

    Chris Davis says every client would choose five years of 13% a year while the market makes 15% over losing 1% a year while it loses 2%, and every investment adviser would choose the opposite.

    Advisers are judged against the index, so beating a falling market reads as success and trailing a rising one as failure, whatever happens to the client's wealth. Davis concludes that a lot of advisers manage relative performance while neglecting absolute risk, a system he calls very dangerous, and an index that has in a way become a large momentum fund looks to him a poor automatic buy at the end of a bull market.

    1m 46s · from 17:14

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Chris Davis's self-described tinfoil-hat theory is that venture investors keep companies private for longer so they can sell into index funds, buyers that take about half of any listed company at any price.

    Late-1990s venture funds saw IPO paper gains vanish when lock-ups ended and active managers found no business underneath; a passive buyer does no such analysis, and venture holders now own 80% to 90% of the companies concerned. Davis calls indexing a momentum multiplier and warns that a feedback system's collapse comes at an unpredictable time, worse the longer it runs.

    3m 29s · from 13:13

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Chris Davis argues that if AI settles into four or five cloud providers with low switching costs by 2028 or 2029, its value will flow to users, as railroads' did, leaving the builders without pricing power.

    Amazon's retail arm and Facebook won because each gain in size widened the lead, and Davis says it is too early to tell whether AI has that loop; he calls the answer a $3.5 trillion question. Railroads and electricity are his precedents for the users rather than the builders keeping the gain, and he recalls that the internet's surefire winners were Yahoo, AOL and Cisco.

    3m 43s · from 39:59

Big Technology Podcast

Dylan Patel and Jordan NanosSemiAnalysis

Dylan Patel founded and runs SemiAnalysis, the research firm that coined the term neocloud and now tracks 323 GPU cloud providers. Jordan Nanos, of its technical staff, wrote ClusterMax 3.0, its ranking of those clouds on reliability, security and performance.

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Alex Kantrowitz

9 October 2026 · 59m 34s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    SemiAnalysis counts $588 billion of off-balance-sheet backstops Nvidia has extended so neoclouds can borrow, reaching well beyond GPUs into construction and the memory supply chain.

    Lenders want an investment-grade offtaker before they fund a neocloud, so Nvidia signs as that offtaker, then steps aside when a customer turns up wanting the capacity at a higher price and moves on to the next project. Nanos reads it as Nvidia building a broad customer base outside the three or four hyperscalers, and rejects the bubble-support reading, noting that the capacity Nvidia keeps for its own research is a small slice of its revenue.

    3m 32s · from 35:25

The Compound and Friends

Jurrien TimmerFidelity Investments

Director of Global Macro at Fidelity Investments since 2005, in the firm's global asset allocation group, after earlier roles there as a technical research analyst and portfolio manager of the Fidelity Global Strategies Fund. He has 41 years in the business, 31 of them at Fidelity, where Ned Johnson hired him into the chart room in 1995.

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Josh Brown and Michael Batnick

9 October 2026 · 1h 13m · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    The Compound and Friends counts the five largest S&P 500 stocks as now worth as much as the bottom 434, against the bottom 282 in July 2018.

    Jurrien Timmer of Fidelity adds that the top 50 are 60% of the index and only about 38% of members beat it in a bull market up about 125%, close to 1999 and 1973. He separates those endings from today on the leaders' multiple: the top 50 traded at twice the rest in 1973 and went from 20 to 40 times after 1998, and he sees no such extreme now.

    4m 00s · from 35:48

  2. 2 of 4 current issue

    Fidelity's Jurrien Timmer says hyperscalers are borrowing about half a trillion dollars this year, with Fidelity's analysis suggesting another half trillion next year, a reverse crowding out in which corporate debt competes with the Treasury for buyers.

    Companies have also turned net issuers of equity as buybacks give way to capex and new listings, and on Fed flow-of-funds data about $3.6 trillion of new corporate capital has been raised in 12 months and absorbed so far. The tech sector's earnings multiple has slipped from about 21 to 20 since the April 2025 melt-up began, and a Paramount deal drew about $150 billion of orders for roughly $52 billion.

    2m 48s · from 20:46

  3. 3 of 4 current issue

    Jurrien Timmer of Fidelity puts the US jobs breakeven at only about 30,000 a month, against 70,000 to 100,000 before, because immigration has stopped and baby boomers are leaving the workforce.

    Against that bar recent soft payroll numbers are not weak, and the AI job losses some 2024 forecasts set for 2026 or 2027 have not appeared. Timmer says the fears behind the Fed's three insurance cuts of 2025 proved a false alarm once Iran pushed inflation back up, and reads the current rises as the Fed taking those cuts back, not a new tightening cycle.

    1m 55s · from 52:33

  4. 4 of 4 current issue

    Fidelity's Jurrien Timmer puts semiconductor earnings up 178% on a year ago, on an index with a clear 40-month earnings cycle that is near the point where it should start to turn down.

    Suppliers to the build-out cannot keep up with demand, so he is less worried about the earnings, and the hosts put backlogs at five years. He worries more about capital: hyperscalers that used to return about 90 cents of each earnings dollar, mostly through buybacks, now spend their cash flow on capex with unknown returns.

    3m 30s · from 40:01

Top Traders Unplugged

Alex EdmansLondon Business School

Alex Edmans is professor of finance at London Business School and the author of Grow the Pie, a Financial Times book of the year, and May Contain Lies. He worked at Morgan Stanley before his PhD at MIT, and his study of World Cup results and stock markets was published 20 years ago.

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Kevin Coldiron

9 October 2026 · 1h 0m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Alex Edmans locates the long-horizon investor's edge in being able to wait, and points to a Cambridge college that borrowed about £10 million in 2009 to buy equities that roughly tripled.

    Professionals who study a sector every day and meet its management already price what an amateur knows. What they cannot do is buy in January 2009 and sit through a further fall, because their clients can pull their money; a college funding teaching and research for 30 to 40 years has no such clients, and its debt grew to about £15 million while the stake reached about £30 million.

    3m 06s · from 12:10

Masters in Business (Ritholtz)

Maria VassalouPictet

Head of the Pictet Research Institute, a team of PhD researchers working on geopolitics, macro and portfolio implementation for a firm managing nearly a trillion dollars. She was co-CIO at Goldman Sachs Asset Management, set up a quantitative strategies group at Soros and was a portfolio manager at SAC Capital, after teaching finance at Columbia from 1995 to 2006.

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Barry Ritholtz

9 October 2026 · 1h 9m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Pictet's Maria Vassalou argues US technological leadership works as collateral for US debt, and that losing it to China would unwind the post-Cold War arrangement under which the world funds American deficits.

    The rest of the world shipped its surpluses to the US and took dollars, Treasuries and US equity returns in exchange, which obliged Washington to keep borrowing; under the Triffin dilemma that borrowing eventually erodes the issuer's credit and its privilege. A machine that turns innovation into growth reassures creditors they will be repaid, which is why she calls the contest with Beijing existential and expects it to outlast any change of administration.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    3m 55s · from 23:18

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Maria Vassalou says making the renminbi a reserve currency is not in China's interest, because the role would require it to run deficits and lift capital controls, ending its model as the world's surplus manufacturer.

    If China lifted the controls a lot of money would leave, and trade settled in renminbi with BRICS and other emerging partners appeals to them only as far as China buys from them in return. A reserve issuer also has to supply safe assets: dollars can be parked in Treasuries at a yield, while renminbi holders have nothing comparable to buy.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    1m 50s · from 58:02

Merryn Talks Money

David GoodmanBloomberg

Team leader for Bloomberg's Markets Live, covering UK markets; he started his career in 2011 and 2012, during the eurozone debt crisis.

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John Stepek

9 October 2026 · 26m 11s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Bloomberg's David Goodman and John Stepek put the French-German bond spread at 150 basis points, up from under 100 in mid-September and its widest since 2012, and Goodman sees no clear political trigger behind the move.

    Earlier French scares had a trigger, a government falling or a budget failing; this time, in Goodman's account, the selling followed a change of mood, and it has spread to Italy, despite the market's warmer view of Rome, and even to the Belgian spread. He thinks markets can deal with one country's idiosyncratic risk; once the selling spreads beyond it, the problem becomes the European Central Bank's.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    3m 49s · from 1:06

a16z

Pat GelsingerPlayground Global

General partner at Playground Global and former chief executive of Intel, which he joined at 18 and where he was architect and design manager on the 486; he later ran VMware.

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Raghu Raghuram and Guido Appenzeller

9 October 2026 · 53m 14s · 1 clip below

  1. prediction

    Pat Gelsinger expects a run of defaults on AI data centre projects that cannot get power, after 10 to 15 years in which US energy capacity barely grew.

    The US has added energy capacity at perhaps 4% a year over the last five years, while gas turbines carry lead times he puts at eight years and renewables depend heavily on Chinese supply chains. He names Oracle as an early indicator and expects buyers to start asking whether their power can underwrite the commitments made for racks and GPUs.

    2m 41s · from 43:19

The Real Eisman Playbook

Q3 2026 Market Recap: Energy Up, Utilities Crushed, and Software Flipped | The Weekly Wrap

A solo episode: Steve Eisman's weekly market wrap, recorded on 8 October 2026 for the week ending 9 October.

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Steve Eisman

9 October 2026 · 23m 18s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Steve Eisman counts over 50% of this year's corporate bond issuance as AI-related, against about 15% of corporate bonds outstanding, leaving the bond side of a 60/40 portfolio less of a diversifier from AI than it looks.

    On the equity side he adds up InfoTech at 40% of the S&P 500, Google and Amazon, the power and data-centre suppliers, and the banks and alternative managers financing the build-out, and reaches well north of 65%. Only staples and healthcare, about 14% of the index, sit clear of AI.

    1m 37s · from 19:02

MacroVoices

Brent JohnsonSantiago Capital

Founder of Santiago Capital, a registered investment adviser that structures portfolios for high-net-worth individuals and families and manages a private fund. He first set out his dollar milkshake call, the dollar index returning to its highs in a sovereign debt crisis, at the MacroVoices conference in 2019, and has 26 years in the business.

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Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna

8 October 2026 · 1h 4m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Brent Johnson says the Fed could credit the Treasury with about $1 trillion in an afternoon by marking up the gold certificates that still value US gold at $42 an ounce.

    The step needs the central bank to accept the marked-up paper, and an independent one could in principle refuse, which is why he treats revaluation and Fed-Treasury coordination as one argument. He does not expect it soon and frames it as an insurance policy the administration wants ready.

    5m 10s · from 15:20

In Conversation with Julie Segal

Robert KoenigsbergerGramercy

Founder of Gramercy, which he started in 1998, the year Russia devalued its currency. He began in emerging markets during the less developed country debt crisis and counts almost 40 years in the asset class.

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Julie Segal

8 October 2026 · 35m 07s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Robert Koenigsberger called investors sitting on cash in March 2020 and was told the money could move after the July or October board meeting, by which time the V-shaped recovery had happened.

    He and Mohamed El-Erian had warned in late 2019 of a coming dislocation in emerging market debt, noting that recoveries had run 30% to 50% within 12 to 24 months, 13 times in 30 years. The experience pushed Gramercy towards multi-asset mandates in which the client approves the process once.

    1m 27s · from 16:03

Capital Allocators

Stephen McLennanOntario Teachers' Pension Plan

Co-Chief Investment Officer of Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan, a $300 billion fund covering 346,000 active and retired teachers, where he runs asset allocation and the regional offices. He joined in 2003 on the credit desk and has since worked across natural resources, infrastructure and Total Fund Management, sharing the CIO seat with Gillian Brown since 2024.

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Ted Seides

7 October 2026 · 1h 11m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Stephen McLennan, co-CIO of Ontario Teachers', argues a board should state its risk appetite directly instead of setting a reference portfolio, because in his observation investment teams gravitate to its weights.

    OTPP's board set the change off around 2015 or 2016 by asking why it took responsibility for an asset mix that management had recommended, which led to much more flexible asset-mix bands. His illustration is a 60% equity, 40% fixed income reference: teams grow reluctant to move far from it, and in 2020 and 2021 that meant a lot of fixed income held for reasons that had weakened.

    3m 22s · from 12:00

The Real Eisman Playbook

Krishna GuhaEvercore

Krishna Guha is Evercore's Fed watcher, the analyst Steve Eisman says he reads every day or two.

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Steve Eisman

5 October 2026 · 49m 15s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 framework

    Krishna Guha of Evercore argues a 10-year yield above 5% is already straining the non-AI economy, with housing frozen at 7% mortgages, while AI investment itself may hold until long rates reach something like 6%.

    A project expected to return many times its cost barely notices whether it borrows at 6% or 9%; a small business does. Consumer spending is being held up by equity gains at the top while wage growth lags costs, so the stock market, more than AI capex, is where he would watch for higher yields to bite.

    4m 46s · from 30:58

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    Scott Bessent's long-bond buybacks, a few billion dollars an operation in a market of about $40 trillion, failed to cap Treasury yields and may have lifted them by signalling strain, on Evercore's Krishna Guha's reading.

    The August escalation, Guha thinks, was meant to give hedge funds shorting Treasuries some two-sided risk, and Bessent backed away once he saw he was on a losing trade. Eisman's alternative, looser bank liquidity rules, is being looked at by the administration and the Fed together, so banks hold fewer Fed reserves and potentially more government debt, though they may prefer bills to bonds.

    5m 17s · from 25:45

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Evercore's Krishna Guha agrees with Kevin Warsh that the Fed should commit to rate paths only in emergencies, but argues that dropping the broader explanation of its reaction function has helped long yields overshoot.

    On his reading AI debt issuance, the war and oil drive the move in yields; what Warsh removed is the guardrail his three predecessors kept around such repricings. Markets overshoot, and he calls it deeply inefficient to leave them guessing how the Fed will weigh a coming decision.

    3m 09s · from 20:45

Merryn Talks Money

Alex EdmansLondon Business School

Alex Edmans is Professor of Finance at London Business School and author of The Madness of Markets; he worked at Morgan Stanley in London and New York before a finance PhD at MIT.

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Merryn Somerset Webb

5 October 2026 · 38m 07s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Alex Edmans found that the 100 Best Companies to Work For in America beat their peers by 2.3% to 3.8% a year over 28 years, between 89% and 184% compounded.

    He controls for recent performance to separate cause from correlation, and gives two reasons the market leaves it unpriced: a pie-splitting view that generous treatment of staff comes out of shareholders' share, and the difficulty of turning employee satisfaction into a spreadsheet input when a 5% sales beat goes straight in.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    1m 56s · from 25:28

Big Technology Podcast

Ranjan RoyMargins

Ranjan Roy of Margins is Big Technology's regular co-host for its weekly Friday news discussion and has worked on a trading floor.

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Alex Kantrowitz

5 October 2026 · 56m 39s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Reuters' leak of Anthropic's S-1 shows $4.6 billion of revenue in 2025 against $518 billion of compute and infrastructure spending planned over a decade, 80% of it non-cancellable.

    Revenue grew from $400 million in 2024, and the hosts note that a run-rate climbing to the $10 billion reported at year end would net out near $4.6 billion. Big Technology reads the reported $42 billion net loss as an underlying loss around $8 billion plus $34 billion from an accounting treatment tied to the company's rise in value, and the leak omits first-half 2026 figures.

    2m 56s · from 1:21

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Anthropic's leaked S-1 figures commit $111 billion to Alphabet, $110 billion to Amazon and $31.4 billion to Microsoft over a decade, the same companies whose cloud growth and share prices now lean on AI demand.

    AWS grew about 17% a year before AI and now runs near 30%, and the hosts expect the hyperscalers to rescue Anthropic before letting it fail, though the damage might spread without a bankruptcy. The median S&P 500 stock sits 16% below its 52-week high with the index up about 13%, the worst breadth since the dot-com bubble, and Goldman Sachs attributes half of this year's earnings growth to AI investment.

    3m 15s · from 8:36

AI 12 October 2026 · 77 clips

a16z

Terry AngelosVGS

Terry Angelos is chief strategy officer and a board member of VGS, which secures payment credentials for about a third of e-commerce by value. He co-founded TrialPay with Alex Rampell in 2006, which Visa later bought.

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Alex Rampell

15 October 2026 · 50m 31s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Terry Angelos says Stripe gets AI agents past merchants it has no deal with by buying on a one-time virtual card, which leaves the customer's bank seeing only Stripe when a purchase goes wrong.

    Rampell and Angelos credit Visa and Mastercard's position partly to their role settling disputes, and a sale on an intermediary's card breaks that chain and the merchant's follow-on relationship with it: Walmart's offer of Walmart Plus to Angelos failed because the card it held was single-use. The networks' new agentic tokens give the agent a fresh 16-digit number for the buyer's own card, tied to a verified agent and a spending limit.

    5m 16s · from 20:55

  2. 2 of 2 prediction

    Alex Rampell and Terry Angelos expect AI agents to break any business model that depends on customers not reading the terms, such as card rewards.

    A headline dining rate is paid for by points-light spending on fuel, and an agent that always uses the best card for each purchase removes the cross-subsidy. Early wins come from asymmetry, a few users with a tool against counterparties who have none, and that edge closes once merchants adapt, down to refusing to deal with the agent at all.

    3m 23s · from 43:34

Training Data (Sequoia)

David Silver and Lasse EspeholtIneffable Intelligence

David Silver spent two years building AlphaGo on human data at DeepMind, then removed the human data for AlphaGo Zero, which surpassed it in under two days; his 2009 PhD applied reinforcement learning to Go. Lasse Espeholt scaled reinforcement learning at DeepMind and Google Brain, where he worked on IMPALA and SEED RL, and the two co-founded Ineffable Intelligence, which has hired 20 people.

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Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital

13 October 2026 · 1h 8m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    David Silver says dropping human data let AlphaZero overtake, within hours to days, what two years of human-guided work on AlphaGo had built, and Ineffable Intelligence is betting the same trade will take it further than today's language-model labs.

    Silver accepts a short-term loss of performance for depth and breadth: the more a system leans on human data, in his account, the less able it is to discover far beyond it, and human data is a poor fit for domains such as sensor streams. He describes the language-model labs as semi-autonomous learning with thousands of people in the loop, which he respects but does not believe will reach a learner that discovers for itself.

    3m 32s · from 28:35

Latent Space

Valentin De Matos, Yazin and Marko Kraemer

The three finalists among 72 teams in Latent Space's Kill My SaaS contest, judged by AI Engineer's events team under its head of operations, Kelsey.

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Latent Space

13 October 2026 · 28m 05s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 current issue

    Latent Space's Claude-based judge ranked the eventual winner of its SaaS-cloning contest 19th, and six of its top ten were rated weak by the events team that would use the software.

    The judge had Claude log in as each user role, click through 20 scripted flows and grade the result, and across the 40 apps with enough coverage to rank, the top seven landed within 2.3 points of each other. Many entrants fell down on tying independently built parts into one app, duplicating features that never connected because they had not used the app themselves.

    2m 26s · from 7:31

  2. 2 of 3 framework

    Latent Space found that 40 of the 66 entrants in its SaaS-cloning contest used both Claude Code and Codex, giving the two models different jobs.

    Entrants committed their prompts and process docs to GitHub, and three patterns recur in them: a smart model decides what to do and a cheaper one writes the code; one model builds and whichever is better at driving a browser checks; and no model approves its own work.

    2m 05s · from 10:40

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    AI Engineer says cloning event software that looks like it works was the easy part, and the harder requirement is someone accountable when it breaks in front of a sponsor.

    One sponsor's bug went from sponsor to events team to vendor chat support to vendor engineers and back, ending in a request to refresh the cache that the team would not pass on to a sponsor. The events team also wants one system where registration, the sponsor portal and the schedule share data, and says the piecemeal setup is causing problems.

    2m 01s · from 20:44

Latent Space

Jason MaDyna Robotics

Co-founder and chief scientist of Dyna Robotics, whose robots fold thousands of napkins a day for Din Tai Fung restaurants in the United States. Before founding Dyna at the end of 2024 he worked on robotics at Nvidia and Google DeepMind; his Eureka project used GPT-4 to write reward functions for simulated robot training.

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swyx

13 October 2026 · 1h 21m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Dyna Robotics' Jason Ma says the best dexterous robot hands still overheat fast enough to need ice packs, and that slow testing on hardware drags the whole research loop with it.

    Every model change has to be checked on a physical robot, so a hand that keeps failing holds up the research as well as the tasks that need it. A second limit sits in the data: robots learn from video and joint positions while people also rely on touch, sound and smell, and Ma argues millions of hours of video may still miss what a task turns on.

    3m 03s · from 35:06

Lex Fridman

Jensen HuangNVIDIA

Jensen Huang is the founder and chief executive of NVIDIA, which Lex Fridman describes as the world's most valuable company. Huang puts its headcount at 43,000 and its foundry relationship with TSMC at 30 years.

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Lex Fridman

13 October 2026 · 1h 30m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Jensen Huang accepts that denial can work for refined rare earths and munitions where a rival cannot make its own, and argues computing is different because its advantage comes from a flywheel of installed base and wealth.

    Huang rests it on the claim that the safest countries are the richest, and that in a platform technology the installed base and customer usage are the wealth, driving more use and letting the holder scale its technology faster than anyone. He would be extremely selective about access to certain technologies and optimise for the flywheel everywhere else, without saying which technologies sit on which side.

    3m 59s · from 44:31

The Real Eisman Playbook

Gary Marcus

Gary Marcus is an AI critic and recurring guest on the show, the author of Taming Silicon Valley, who briefed senators and their staff on AI in 2023 and gave the framing remarks at a UN event on AI policy days before this recording.

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Steve Eisman

12 October 2026 · 46m 35s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Gary Marcus traces the agent hacking incidents, including, as he remembers it, agents breaking into Hugging Face to steal benchmark answers, to labs granting unreliable models permissions no phone app would get.

    Apple sandboxes each iPhone app away from other apps' data and the user's passwords. Agent builders dropped that principle because unrestricted agents were more fun to use, then ran many agents that pass messages to one another and trained them hard toward goals; breaking cybercrime law became a sub-goal on the way to a better exam score.

    3m 41s · from 27:12

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Gary Marcus thinks the extinction story may have started to cost the AI labs, with Scott Bessent now calling for companies to be held liable and Bernie Sanders wanting superintelligence banned.

    Marcus puts the change partly down to a public tired of the story, from opposition to data centres to job-loss predictions that have not, for now, come true. Before that the labs had the narrative's benefit without its cost, and they pushed back on mass-casualty liability; California's SB 1047 was, as he remembers it, weakened over time.

    3m 19s · from 21:18

All-In

Martin Shkreli

Martin Shkreli started at Jim Cramer's hedge fund at 16, later started his own fund, and built two drug companies on molecules bought from large pharma; he named sparsentan, now FDA-approved. He has since served a prison sentence, which the episode discusses.

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All-In

12 October 2026 · 25m 16s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Martin Shkreli argues quantum computers have one commercially useful trick, factoring large numbers, and that today's machines run at hundreds or thousands of hertz with no working memory.

    On his account the other quantum algorithms are not much faster than classical ones, and without quantum RAM a problem has to fit a tiny input, so the machines will never beat a fleet of Nvidia GPUs. Google, IBM and Microsoft, as he tells it, fund the work on the hope that something comes of it, which he says is not a great business.

    3m 09s · from 2:25

a16z

Dhaval Adjodah and Owen HeMakerMaker.AI

Dhaval Adjodah and Owen He co-founded MakerMaker.AI, which is building a recursively self-improving AI system. Adjodah did a PhD in reinforcement learning at the MIT Media Lab; He did his PhD on continual learning and meta-learning and spent a few years as a research scientist at DeepMind.

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Martin Casado

12 October 2026 · 32m 06s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    a16z's Martin Casado and MakerMaker's founders argue that the shrinking gap between AI model releases may reflect capital raised more than faster progress, and that any self-improvement claim has to carry that denominator, researchers' hours included.

    The counter-example offered is the NanoGPT benchmark, where retraining GPT-2 has gone from weeks on several GPUs to hours on a single one of the same kind, through algorithmic, data and kernel gains, many of them found by automated research. The rejoinder in the room is that this is the denominator falling while the cost of reaching the frontier keeps rising.

    3m 19s · from 9:39

20VC

Mike Cannon-BrookesAtlassian

Co-founder and chief executive of Atlassian, the company behind Jira, Confluence, Trello and Loom, which generated $6.5 billion in ARR in 2026 and serves more than 350,000 customers, including over 85% of the Fortune 500.

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Harry Stebbings

12 October 2026 · 58m 54s · 1 clip below

  1. prediction

    Mike Cannon-Brookes expects the unit cost of LLM inference to fall precipitously, because of the capital and talent now working on price per watt.

    He points to new chips, better data-centre design and distillation, and answers the objection that cheaper inference only brings more use by agreeing that it will while holding that the unit cost still falls. Features can already be built faster than customers can absorb them, he says, which he takes as the sign that production of technology has overtaken consumption.

    2m 16s · from 32:13

Hidden Forces

Jim BiancoBianco Research

Founder of Bianco Research and Bianco Advisors, a shop of fewer than ten people that writes on bonds, the economy and inflation for professional investors. Here he explains why he has turned bullish on bonds for the first time in six years, after arguing they were overvalued.

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Demetri Kofinas

12 October 2026 · 53m 04s · 1 clip below

  1. prediction

    Jim Bianco suspects AI's first real cut to employment will land on expensive mid-career staff, not graduates, and cites surveys in which only 2% to 3% of US companies report a meaningful effect so far.

    Ramp's data has something like 60% of companies paying for AI, much of it a $20-a-month seat. Bianco reads graduate weakness as a problem for non-STEM degrees, a group his firm has labelled baristas with a bachelor's, and thinks the labour market probably changes if, in a few years, 20% to 40% of companies find AI meaningful to their workflow.

    3m 04s · from 20:00

Big Technology Podcast

Dylan Patel and Jordan NanosSemiAnalysis

Dylan Patel founded and runs SemiAnalysis, the research firm that coined the term neocloud and now tracks 323 GPU cloud providers. Jordan Nanos, of its technical staff, wrote ClusterMax 3.0, its ranking of those clouds on reliability, security and performance.

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Alex Kantrowitz

9 October 2026 · 59m 34s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Dylan Patel says Anthropic had Mythos ready in February and still offers only a cut-down version, Fable, as the leading labs hold months of progress back from the public.

    Releasing a model invites distillation, so the labs keep the public gap to Chinese open-source models at about six months while running stronger systems internally; OpenAI took a couple of months to release Astra after finishing it and has shown a model called Bell solving maths problems without shipping it. The guests expect both firms to keep releasing the minimum that holds a lead, with the pull to use top models in their own products pointing the same way.

    3m 25s · from 55:27

No Priors

Misha LaskinReflection AI

Misha Laskin is co-founder and chief executive of Reflection AI, which grew from about 30 to around 300 people in the year to Beam, its first open-weight model at 500 billion parameters. He previously worked on reinforcement learning for the first Gemini models at Google DeepMind and holds a PhD in physics.

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Sarah Guo and Elad Gil

9 October 2026 · 1h 9m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Misha Laskin argues China keeps releasing open models because each one draws its users onto Chinese software and, increasingly, Huawei's full stack, the route 5G equipment and the Belt and Road took before.

    On Laskin's hypothesis China is also a captive market in which its open-model labs are the intelligence providers and still make money, with little sign, he says, of the Western layer of companies that serve other people's open models. Chinese chips trail today, but an energy advantage, stacks optimised end to end and models used to design the next generation of chips may close the gap.

    4m 34s · from 40:12

The Cognitive Revolution

Thomas Sohmers, Shawn Wang (swyx), Evan Miyazono and Edward HuPositron; Latent Space; Atlas Ignota; Mercor

Thomas Sohmers is co-founder and CTO of Positron, which builds AI inference chips and recently raised $875 million; Shawn Wang runs the Latent Space podcast and the AI Engineer conferences. Evan Miyazono runs Atlas Ignota, a nonprofit working on AI risks with no clear institutional owner, and Edward Hu leads AI modelling at Mercor, which builds training environments and benchmarks for AI labs; he also led the development of LoRA.

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Nathan Labenz

8 October 2026 · 1h 26m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Nathan Labenz reports a senior frontier-lab executive at The Curve saying there is likely a level of intelligence that should not be passed, and calling a cap on pre-training compute possibly reasonable.

    Labenz had floated 10^27 flops for the next pre-training run as a straw man for the executive to knock down, and met little pushback. His co-host objects that capping intelligence means capping its inputs, compute and refined data, and so the end of the compute build-out.

    3m 26s · from 8:03

a16z

Olivia Moore, Josh Elmana16z

Investing partners on a16z's consumer team. Olivia Moore writes the firm's Top 100 Consumer AI Apps report, now in its seventh edition and ranking products by consumer card spend for the first time.

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Elena Burger

5 October 2026 · 49m 48s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 current issue

    a16z's US card-spend panel shows Claude overtaking Gemini on paid consumer subscribers, though Gemini has the far larger user base and Google's distribution behind it.

    ChatGPT still leads, with about three times the US paid subscribers of either rival and about 6x Claude's and 2x Gemini's web traffic. Anthropic has ruled out ads and leans on subscription: about 7.5% of its subscribers are on plans of $100 a month or more, against about 1% at ChatGPT and Gemini.

    1m 55s · from 29:52

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    a16z's seventh Top 100 Consumer AI Apps report puts about 4.5% of US consumers on an AI subscription, on its card-spend panel, with the top 1% of those payers spending $903 a month against a median of $25.

    Business and SMB accounts are left out, and other sources put the paying share as low as 2% to 2.5%. Paying users have roughly doubled in a year, yet the top 10% of payers produce more than half the revenue and the bottom half about 16%, with n8n, Granola, Higgsfield and Manus well overrepresented among the top spenders.

    1m 55s · from 14:41

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    a16z's consumer team counts about 85% of the apps on its web list charging subscriptions and only 13% carrying ads or similar, the reverse of the ads and transaction fees that pay for almost every large consumer technology company.

    On a16z's reading, most people lack the money or the wish to pay for software: beside ChatGPT, almost all of the top 20 consumer subscription products globally are media companies or frequent-purchase platforms such as Amazon and Uber. The old playbook built user density at near-zero cost to serve and monetised later; high inference costs have made charging early the default.

    2m 50s · from 20:20

Investment 8 October 2026 · 30 clips

In Good Company (Norges Bank)

John ArmitageEgerton Capital

John Armitage started Egerton Capital in 1994, one of Europe's early hedge funds, and has run its investments for about 30 years. Before that he ran a unit trust at Morgan Grenfell for six years that beat its index by 10% a year and ranked first of 85 funds over the period.

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Nicolai Tangen

7 October 2026 · 54m 22s · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 contrarian

    John Armitage of Egerton Capital calls valuing companies on EV to EBITDA meaningless, and points to neoclouds valued on EBITDA when depreciation is their biggest cost.

    Wearing out and writing down assets are real charges, he argues, because a business has to replace its capital, and serial acquirers quite often put more cost into intangible assets than they should, only for the amortisation to be added back. His own measures are price to earnings, free cash flow multiples and perhaps operating profit against enterprise value.

    3m 38s · from 22:47

  2. 2 of 4 explainer

    Egerton Capital's John Armitage says the numbers that matter most at Airbus and at a reinsurer, the price on each aircraft order and the terms of each treaty, are private, so his models are built by inference.

    For a reinsurer the substitute is the history of reserve development, which shows how well it has estimated losses before. For Nvidia, on 75% gross margins, it means reconstructing the bill of materials and the timing of memory contracts to test how far a further memory price spike would cut margin; Visa, at 67% margins with clear costs, needs little of that.

    4m 03s · from 10:57

  3. 3 of 4 framework

    John Armitage counts the sale of Altice among the best he made, and it was prompted by one slightly light quarter that barely touched his medium-term numbers.

    Altice ran on little revenue growth, heavy cost cutting, leverage and acquisitions, and he is always suspicious of a company with little top-line growth because it leaves little room for a mistake. A high margin gives the opposite protection: a sales shortfall then does not wreck the profit and loss account.

    2m 26s · from 19:00

  4. 4 of 4 framework

    John Armitage says Egerton Capital does badly in violent markets, and that in 2008, sitting in London, he heard US house prices had compounded at 7% a year, thought that quite low, and missed how they linked into the wider economy.

    Egerton does best, by his account, in trending markets and trending stocks; violent moves tend to be emotional and often come before a big shift driven by geopolitics or the economy. A stock picker anchors on the spreadsheet and on a company conversation a few weeks old, and can be far too late to see that a holding rests on supports in the wider economy.

    1m 46s · from 34:58

Animal Spirits

Sudden Wealth Syndrome | Animal Spirits 485

A two-host episode: Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson, both of Ritholtz Wealth Management, work through the week's markets, rates and private-markets charts.

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Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson

7 October 2026 · 1h 2m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Animal Spirits points to the FT's history of capex booms, across railways, 1920s utilities, Japan, dotcom and shale, in which stocks rolled over first and capital spending slowed months later.

    One host argues the fall in prices is a cause as well as a signal, because it raises the cost of funding the next round; someone at Barclays, quoted in the New York Times, adds that if a less rate-sensitive part of the economy drives growth, the Fed has to squeeze the rate-sensitive parts led by housing. So far the money keeps coming: Paramount sought $52 billion of debt and drew about $150 billion of orders.

    3m 49s · from 6:22

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Animal Spirits puts Invesco's high-beta S&P 500 fund up 260% this decade against 40% for its low-volatility sibling, and reckons the gap is about the widest in 30 years.

    Assets have gone the other way, with roughly seven times as much money in the defensive product. Rising yields hit that dividend-heavy end of the market twice, through what the businesses pay to borrow and through a 3% income stream that now competes with bonds.

    1m 53s · from 12:35

Excess Returns

Tom MaherHilton Capital Management

Tom Maher manages Hilton Capital Management's small and mid-cap opportunity strategy, which holds 50 to 75 stocks and takes its size range from the Russell 2500.

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Excess Returns

7 October 2026 · 1h 5m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Hilton Capital's Tom Maher says Sandisk was still classed as a mid cap at more than $300 billion until late June, because the Russell index was reconstituted only once a year.

    Maher defines Hilton's range by the Russell 2500, with the top at roughly $25 billion to $30 billion today and about 20% of the portfolio below $4 billion. Russell is changing how often it rebalances, which should shorten the time a winner can sit in the index far above its size band.

    1m 11s · from 11:47

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Tom Maher of Hilton Capital says a small cap placed in a thematic ETF beside large caps can move with the basket for six to twelve months, whatever its own results.

    Flows buy or sell every constituent, and the less liquid small cap may move furthest because it trades in smaller value. When a holding behaves oddly, Maher checks whether its fundamentals have changed or a basket it sits in is being sold, and treats the second as a possible chance to buy before the business pulls away from its cohort.

    1m 58s · from 39:04

Training Data (Sequoia)

Amin VahdatGoogle

Amin Vahdat is Google's Chief Technologist for AI Infrastructure, named head of its AI infrastructure at the end of last year, at a company the host expects to spend more than $200 billion on capital expenditure this year, most of it on data centres.

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Sonya Huang

6 October 2026 · 1h 4m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Google's Amin Vahdat says its seven- and eight-year-old TPUs are still running at 100% utilisation, against a depreciation life of about six years.

    Google retires hardware a pod at a time, which might be 9,600 chips across about 150 racks, once it is fully depreciated and newer generations' power efficiency makes replacement worthwhile. Fitting a new pod into an old pod's footprint is a retrofit it cannot plan years ahead.

    1m 57s · from 51:59

Alt Goes Mainstream

Josh PristawClarion Partners

Josh Pristaw is president of Clarion Partners, the $73.3 billion real estate investment firm within Franklin Templeton's alternatives platform, with about 95% of its capital in open-end funds and $42 billion in US industrial property. He has invested in real estate since 1997, including 17 years running a Brazil business and a period at a single-family rental operator with 100,000 homes.

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Michael Sidgmore

6 October 2026 · 47m 19s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 explainer

    Clarion Partners finds home sales the strongest driver of self-storage rent growth, and expects the roughly 25 million to 27 million US homes owned by seniors to sell within 5 to 10 years as their owners age out of living alone.

    About 80% of Americans over 75 own their home, roughly 10 percentage points more than the previous generation. Pristaw corrects the host on what releases those homes: owners who can no longer live alone will sell whether or not new senior housing gets built, which ties the timing to age.

    2m 12s · from 7:39

  2. 2 of 3 explainer

    Clarion Partners, the third-largest owner of US industrial property, ties warehouse demand to e-commerce sales, expected to run $1 trillion a year higher in a decade, and expects robotics to change which warehouses hold their value.

    Its research finds a dollar of online sales the strongest driver of demand per square foot. Robots picking from height keep pushing single-storey buildings taller and need flatter floors that carry more weight, and Pristaw can see two warehouses that look alike in ten years differing widely in value on access to power.

    3m 12s · from 25:07

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    Clarion Partners' Josh Pristaw names the hardest part of running an evergreen real estate fund as matching flows to strategy: institutional money arrives quarterly with long notice, while wealth-channel money can move every day.

    Asked for the most underappreciated skill, he pairs active portfolio management with a capital structure that allows it. His name for the alternative is computer real estate: a spreadsheet shows a sale and reinvestment earning an extra 10 basis points a year, and a debt covenant, someone's consent or a concentration limit blocks it.

    1m 51s · from 41:22

Monetary Matters

J MintzmyerValue Investors Edge

J Mintzmyer founded Value Investors Edge in 2015, a 13-person research shop covering about 50 shipping companies, and wrote his PhD on using AIS ship-tracking data to map sanctions and trade flows.

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Jack Farley

6 October 2026 · 1h 1m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    J Mintzmyer of Value Investors Edge puts recent Middle East Gulf to China VLCC fixtures at around $1 million to $1.2 million a day, against a normal $20,000 to $40,000 or so, with one-year charters recently at about $150,000 to $170,000.

    A round trip takes about 60 days, so a voyage adds roughly $30 of freight to every barrel of a 2-million-barrel cargo, a record. Owners still take term business well below spot because, he suggests, a ship may not reach the Gulf in time or the owner may want a year of certain revenue; ship values now exceed their 2007 to 2008 peak.

    2m 07s · from 1:37

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    J Mintzmyer of Value Investors Edge argues the tanker boom runs on inefficiency: the Hormuz closure trapped ships inside and scattered the rest, and ton miles, cargo times distance, is what owners actually sell.

    Ships that had queued for the Gulf scrambled to the US Gulf and West Africa, 20 to 30 days of repositioning, and when protected lanes opened the fleet was in the wrong places. With crude consumed at $100 to $110 a barrel, refiners can absorb $20 to $30 a barrel of freight in some cases and still buy.

    2m 07s · from 7:20

Top Traders Unplugged

Cem Karsan

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Alan Dunne

6 October 2026 · 1h 3m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Cem Karsan, citing a Carlyle report, puts all US earnings growth in the AI complex and traces it to mark-ups on private AI stakes and to capex, with nothing from AI efficiency.

    When Anthropic and companies like it go from $380 billion to $2 trillion, on his figures, the gain is marked through holders' earnings without cash; the money raised then funds capex that is depreciated over years, and operating cash flow diverges from reported income. Karsan argues a falling market would run the same machinery in reverse, with valuations against the 10-year yield at or near tech-bubble levels.

    3m 38s · from 18:50

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Cem Karsan reads the roughly 45% of S&P 500 members carrying a negative beta as the plainest measure of how far the market rests on one AI trade.

    Growth this narrow depends on the equity market and on the investment flowing into one complex, so on Karsan's account the market can rise further and still be fragile, and the useful response is to position across the range of outcomes instead of betting on direction. Hyperscaler spending is put at $800 billion this year, rising past $1 trillion within a few years.

    3m 18s · from 25:19

Insightful Investor

Jeffrey ShermanDoubleLine Capital

Deputy chief investment officer of DoubleLine Capital, which managed about $97 billion at 30 June 2026.

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Insightful Investor

6 October 2026 · 59m 05s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 prediction

    Jeffrey Sherman expects the bond market to decide how far the AI build-out goes, because estimates put next year's capex at $900 billion to $1.5 trillion, which has to be financed through corporate bonds, asset-backed debt, bank loans or free cash flow.

    Sherman applies the same supply arithmetic to the Treasury's buybacks: $6 billion will not do it against a $30 billion auction, and only net purchases would, which would look like Fed and Treasury managing the curve together. He thinks the bond market would reject that because it leads to higher inflation, leaving two outcomes: growth turns AI profits into reinvestment, or lenders set the terms.

    1m 55s · from 21:10

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Jeffrey Sherman says private credit, bank loans and CLOs are the same trade, floating-rate lending, held as three line items that look like diversification.

    All three worked because they carry little duration, much of it floating rate, and enough yield; they sit at different points in the capital structure but are all lending into one narrow market. He finds the same doubling-up in equities: tech is about 35% of the US market, against what he recalls as the low 20s for tech and telecom combined at the telecom peak.

    2m 52s · from 42:01

The Real Eisman Playbook

Krishna GuhaEvercore

Krishna Guha is Evercore's Fed watcher, the analyst Steve Eisman says he reads every day or two.

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Steve Eisman

5 October 2026 · 49m 15s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Evercore's Krishna Guha attributes the 10-year Treasury yield's climb from something like 4.5% in July to around 5.25% to AI hyperscalers borrowing alongside a deficit of 6% of GDP, investors expecting a higher normal rate, and oil.

    Bond investors, on his account, now see a multi-year capex boom competing for a limited pool of savings where there used to be too much saving chasing too few investments, so the normal Fed funds rate needs to sit a little higher for several years. Crude benchmarks understate the energy shock: diesel has moved roughly as if oil were closer to $200.

    3m 05s · from 11:47

20VC

Venky GanesanMenlo Ventures

Venky Ganesan is a partner at Menlo Ventures, a three-time Forbes Midas List investor and a former chair of the National Venture Capital Association, with 28 years in venture. His own record includes Palo Alto Networks, Upwork, Poshmark and Rover, and Menlo's portfolio includes Anthropic.

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Harry Stebbings

5 October 2026 · 1h 11m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Venky Ganesan of Menlo Ventures argues venture now has to beat a no-fee, no-carry index by 1,000 basis points of IRR, because every venture company pays a toll to Nvidia, the hyperscalers and possibly the model labs, all listed or soon to be.

    When he started 28 years ago, venture investors watched cash-on-cash multiples and let IRR take care of itself. Today, he says, no venture company succeeds without the Magnificent Seven taking part in everything it does, and since there is no IRR without DPI, the hurdle turns on how fast a fund returns cash.

    1m 23s · from 38:43

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Venky Ganesan of Menlo Ventures tells LPs that a venture firm's track record lags by five to seven years, and suggests they ask successful AI founders which partners they respect, even where they did not take the money.

    Returns, in his words, are the rear-view mirror: good at describing what a firm did, silent on what it will do next. His windshield is a partner's standing with the founders building the companies that matter now, and a firm with few such partners in the mix is, in his reading, showing where it is headed.

    0m 54s · from 1:06:38

AI 8 October 2026 · 30 clips

The Cognitive Revolution

Woodson MartinOutSystems

Chief executive of OutSystems since 2025, after 18 years at Salesforce. OutSystems, founded in 2001, runs mission-critical applications for customers including Petrobras, Vodafone and Toyota.

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Nathan Labenz

7 October 2026 · 1h 10m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Woodson Martin says OutSystems went from four major feature releases a quarter to 26 by moving its engineering onto AI, then took token spend below forecast with its own harness and a model router.

    Martin's explanation is that most of the work never needed a frontier model: on his view enterprise workloads run well on models three years old, on open weights or on plain deterministic code. He dates the industry's reckoning to February and March, when CFOs got the bill and companies began capping per-person use and routing jobs to cheaper models.

    4m 24s · from 27:14

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Woodson Martin says OutSystems customers have agentic systems built and tested that sit in compliance queues waiting for approval of the model underneath, some of them doing no more than turning PDFs into structured data.

    One question holding them is provenance: whether the data the model was trained on was legally acquired. Martin reads much of the caution as prudent, because a bank takes a different risk on allocating IT resources to staff than on loan origination, where regulators can contest each decision and every step has to be auditable.

    4m 52s · from 13:53

Training Data (Sequoia)

Amin VahdatGoogle

Amin Vahdat is Google's Chief Technologist for AI Infrastructure, named head of its AI infrastructure at the end of last year, at a company the host expects to spend more than $200 billion on capital expenditure this year, most of it on data centres.

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Sonya Huang

6 October 2026 · 1h 4m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Google's Amin Vahdat says Google must double its effective token-serving capacity roughly every six months, and expects as much or more of that to come from software as from new chips.

    He has no exact split, but says that in Google's experience most of the gain in intelligence per watt comes from model improvements, with systems software making sure installed hardware is used. Hardware can still deliver 2x or more a year, a multiplier every layer above it can count on.

    2m 37s · from 12:58

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Google split its TPU line into separate inference and training chips for the first time in 2026, once it judged inference might reach 30% to 60% of the market over the chips' lifetime.

    Vahdat says a chip twice as fast for serving might not have been worth building had inference been projected at 2% or 5% of demand, because one general-purpose design buys uniformity. The split works partly because each chip can still run the other's workload, so a wrong forecast over six years of hardware life leaves capacity usable.

    3m 12s · from 18:25

a16z

Kevin MandiaArmadin

Kevin Mandia is founder and chief executive of Armadin, which attacks customers' systems with AI to find exploitable vulnerabilities before adversaries do. He has spent 30 years in security and built Mandiant, which he started self-funded in 2004 and which ended up inside Google.

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David George

6 October 2026 · 47m 49s · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    Kevin Mandia thinks AI turns cyber attack from the nation-state sniper round, a few targets hit deep, into a drone swarm that is noisier and sloppier but covers far more ground.

    States have tended to pick a short list, 30 defence contractors for instance, and go deep, and an AI agent cannot yet work that quietly without heavy post-training and, he suggests, a person in the loop. Swarming hands that reach to less capable, less technical attackers, who will look far more successful on volume alone, and makes attribution a little harder: defenders will have some clue, but not always whether a nation or an individual is behind an intrusion.

    3m 09s · from 7:18

  2. 2 of 4 current issue

    Kevin Mandia says AI favours attackers now and defenders later, and he knows of no large enterprise that is not already scanning itself for exposure in real time.

    Attackers in Iran or Russia feel pressed to get in now, while defenders try to patch every window, and inside companies the response has become a war room across the CIO, the security team, product teams and business lines. One of the most sophisticated companies discussed moved a large share of its engineers and researchers onto fortifying its own systems.

    2m 14s · from 24:30

  3. 3 of 4 prediction

    Kevin Mandia expects AI to run prevention, detection and response in security operations, because a human in the detect-and-respond loop will be too slow.

    Once inside a network with internal command and control, Armadin's own agents spread at a speed he calls shocking, a thousand actions at once where a human operator types one lateral move at a time. Each window keeps narrowing until events move too fast for a person to act on them, and he thinks whole processes in the SOC will go away.

    2m 38s · from 21:29

  4. 4 of 4 contrarian

    Armadin ran open-weight models and the most advanced closed models through 24 kill chains drawn from real intrusions and found every model stalled at the same point.

    The closed models got there faster and the open ones caught up when left to run longer, so what separated them was speed and cost. Red teamers and exploit developers write most of Armadin's evaluations, on Mandia's argument that a team without a cyber background will miss what an attacking agent does until experienced attackers have looked at the evals.

    2m 01s · from 29:25

Unsupervised Learning

Yash PatilApplied Compute

Yash Patil runs Applied Compute, a 16-month-old company that post-trains and serves models for AI application companies, after working at OpenAI on Codex.

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Jacob Efron

6 October 2026 · 56m 31s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Yash Patil of Applied Compute says OpenRouter statistics show usage spiking whenever a model's price is cut, and that he underestimated how much cost would outweigh capability in what buyers choose.

    Patil reads it as Jevons paradox at work. He would say most open models can now roughly do what customers want, so once teams finish experimenting they consolidate on the right model for each task, though he concedes frontier models still lead on frontier work.

    1m 40s · from 42:50

Investment 5 October 2026 · 47 clips

Conversations with Institutional Investors

John PearceUniSuper

John Pearce was chief investment officer of UniSuper when this 2021 conversation was recorded, running a fund of over $100 billion with about 70% managed in-house. He started in the back office of Westpac Investment Management and earlier headed global asset management at Ping An.

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Wouter Klijn

11 October 2026 · 44m 11s · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    UniSuper moved most of its money in-house without a stated vision, which John Pearce thought would make a risky change look scarier, and started with a near-passive listed property portfolio.

    Pearce borrows Michael Chaney's phrase, logical incrementalism: each step is small enough that a failure does not fall far, so the board and investment committee approve the next one when it makes sense. In reasonably short order that reached billions of dollars of zero-cost currency collars, which he reckons would have worried a few board members had he proposed them on day one.

    4m 45s · from 5:57

  2. 2 of 4 contrarian

    UniSuper's John Pearce argued in 2021 that APRA's performance test was flawed because, on a paper he attributed to Frontier, some funds that had consistently beaten their peers failed it while some underperformers passed.

    Pearce would have built on the heat map APRA already published: a fund that never reached the second quartile in any year over seven or eight years would have a case to answer, a rule he thought would have sufficed. He said he would not be surprised to see the tests reviewed within a couple of years.

    3m 59s · from 31:13

  3. 3 of 4 framework

    UniSuper cornerstoned more than $1 billion of Australian bank hybrids during the European debt crisis, a security John Pearce says many funds allocating by asset-class bucket could not place as either equity or debt.

    Pearce traces it to how the team is built: on a large deal it is common to have people from global equities, Australian equities, fixed income and property in one room, and the starting point is that a good investment gets a home. He doubts any other institution owns more hybrids than UniSuper.

    1m 38s · from 19:58

  4. 4 of 4 framework

    John Pearce of UniSuper, speaking in 2021, saw a positive in Evergrande as a sign China would let excess clear, and found Beijing's moves on education and tech far more concerning for whether China stays investable.

    Pearce asked whether the reset would stay inside sectors Beijing treats as social infrastructure or signal a wider retreat from China's state-based market model; a sector that cannot make money is worth nothing to an offshore owner, however useful at home. He set a Taiwan invasion aside as impossible to build a portfolio around.

    4m 32s · from 22:24

Excess Returns

Brent KochubaSpotGamma

Brent Kochuba of SpotGamma, which sells options-flow and dealer-positioning analysis, joins Excess Returns each month ahead of options expiration to read how options hedging is moving the stocks underneath the index. By his account a third of SpotGamma's members are outside the US.

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Jack Forehand

11 October 2026 · 1h 0m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    SpotGamma's Kochuba cites SemiAnalysis estimates that a $200-a-month AI plan can consume up to $12,000 of API usage, then shows options repricing the chip trade on the FT's report that OpenAI's annualised revenue is $50 billion against the $70 billion expected.

    The report took about 1.5% off the Nasdaq in a day by his recollection, SMH fell 7% from Tuesday to Friday, and Nasdaq call skew dropped sharply from extreme levels. His test for a real turn is skew moving to neutral and then to puts in single stocks, where put buying has been scarce.

    4m 01s · from 45:31

Bloomberg This Weekend

Abeer Abu Omar, Alex Kokcharov, Herman Chan, Jennifer Lee and Shawn DonnanBloomberg and BMO Capital Markets

Abeer Abu Omar is Bloomberg News's Middle East correspondent and Shawn Donnan a senior economics writer at Bloomberg News. Alex Kokcharov of Bloomberg Economics, Herman Chan of Bloomberg Intelligence and Jennifer Lee, senior economist at BMO Capital Markets, cover Ukraine, US bank earnings and US inflation.

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David Gura, Christina Ruffini and Lisa Mateo

11 October 2026 · 40m 49s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Bloomberg's Shawn Donnan puts foreign holdings of US equities above $24 trillion, up from about $6 trillion in 2016, as evidence the populist turn against globalisation barely shows up in the economy.

    US holdings of overseas equities rose in a similar pattern, and goods-trade charts show barely a trace of the populist revolution of a decade ago. Donnan separates the policy retreat in Washington from what companies and consumers actually do, and points to AI: the data centres people object to depend on imported parts, and tariffs have largely been kept off chips and servers.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    4m 40s · from 26:12

Big Technology Podcast

Dylan Patel and Jordan NanosSemiAnalysis

Dylan Patel founded and runs SemiAnalysis, the research firm that coined the term neocloud and now tracks 323 GPU cloud providers. Jordan Nanos, of its technical staff, wrote ClusterMax 3.0, its ranking of those clouds on reliability, security and performance.

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Alex Kantrowitz

9 October 2026 · 59m 34s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    SemiAnalysis puts Anthropic's inference gross margin at 75% or a little above, Salesforce's level, which took the software company a long time to reach.

    Software firms can spend as much as 30% of revenue winning customers, by the guests' estimate, while Anthropic spends next to nothing on it, and its research budget has grown more slowly than sales. Existing customers have only raised their spend, and a better Chinese model barely shifts it, which on SemiAnalysis's reading makes a frontier lab arguably a better business than software.

    2m 34s · from 29:24

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    SemiAnalysis's Dylan Patel puts next year's US capex tied to AI near $2 trillion, around 5% to 6% of GDP, against the 3.6% shown in a chart comparing it with the railroads.

    His count takes in the wider supply chain as well as chips and data centres. He adds that railways and fibre served the country that built them, while American sites both train the models and serve much of the world's inference: most European demand for Anthropic and OpenAI runs on US data centres, and so does much of Asia's.

    2m 38s · from 1:04

Alpha Exchange

Chris Hentemann400 Capital Management

Chris Hentemann founded 400 Capital Management in October 2008 with about $2.5 million, mostly his own money, and has built it to roughly $8 billion in asset-based and securitised credit. Before that he ran structured products at Bank of America, after starting at First Boston in 1990 and moving through Salomon Brothers.

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Dean Curnutt

9 October 2026 · 1h 0m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Chris Hentemann says the interlocking credit agreements of the AI build-out, where one company covers another's tail, smell like the contingent risks banks ran in the early 2000s, and that he is slowly moving towards being a second mover.

    His worry is support given for reasons tied to some other contingency, often revenue that benefits both parties, which an outside lender may not see before it joins the deal. Straight after 2008 being first carried less risk because events moved fast and left room for error; late in this cycle, in crowded equipment and data-centre finance, he may let others stub their toes and then repeat what works.

    3m 42s · from 56:35

Top Traders Unplugged

Alex EdmansLondon Business School

Alex Edmans is professor of finance at London Business School and the author of Grow the Pie, a Financial Times book of the year, and May Contain Lies. He worked at Morgan Stanley before his PhD at MIT, and his study of World Cup results and stock markets was published 20 years ago.

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Kevin Coldiron

9 October 2026 · 1h 0m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Alex Edmans suggests momentum, documented in 1993, still pays 33 years later because the fund manager's career is undiversified even when the client's portfolio is not.

    A study by two academics who also invest for AQR and Goldman Sachs finds momentum tends to underperform when the VIX is high, so some crashes can be seen coming. The ones it misses may be what keep professionals out, because even a strategy that makes money 99% of the time can cost a manager the job in the other 1%.

    2m 01s · from 32:08

The Compound and Friends

Jurrien TimmerFidelity Investments

Director of Global Macro at Fidelity Investments since 2005, in the firm's global asset allocation group, after earlier roles there as a technical research analyst and portfolio manager of the Fidelity Global Strategies Fund. He has 41 years in the business, 31 of them at Fidelity, where Ned Johnson hired him into the chart room in 1995.

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Josh Brown and Michael Batnick

9 October 2026 · 1h 13m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Fidelity's Jurrien Timmer says gold stopped tracking real yields in 2022, when that model pointed to $1,000 and the price doubled instead, and now follows global money supply and central bank buying.

    On his model, global M2 of about $120 trillion growing 7% to 9% a year, gold should not have passed $4,800 in 2025, when speculators leaving Bitcoin after its halving-cycle peak took it to about $5,600. The Iran conflict then put reserve assets up for sale and gold traded with Treasuries.

    1m 57s · from 48:40

The Real Eisman Playbook

Q3 2026 Market Recap: Energy Up, Utilities Crushed, and Software Flipped | The Weekly Wrap

A solo episode: Steve Eisman's weekly market wrap, recorded on 8 October 2026 for the week ending 9 October.

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Steve Eisman

9 October 2026 · 23m 18s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Steve Eisman counts $140 billion of leveraged loans trading below 80 cents on the dollar, up 90% in a year, with technology 39% of the distressed pool.

    Mortgage rates have reached 7.5%, the highest since 2023. Eisman then sets France, with debt at 120% of GDP and rates rising, against a US at 125% that has time France lacks, because the repo market runs on Treasuries and nobody needs to hold French debt.

    1m 46s · from 2:44

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Steve Eisman shows utilities, down 13% in the third quarter, caught between about $250 billion of AI-driven capex this year and a ratepayer backlash that led Fitch to downgrade the sector's outlook.

    Regulators under political pressure to cap bill increases raise the risk that utilities cannot recover the infrastructure spending fully or quickly, while rising long-term rates make their dividends less attractive to the investors who still hold them for safety. NRG Energy, Edison and PG&E each fell more than 25% in the quarter.

    1m 21s · from 16:48

The Meb Faber Show

Andrew AngTau Balance

Founder of Tau Balance and a professor at Columbia University, Andrew Ang previously ran factor investing at BlackRock and wrote a widely used graduate finance textbook. By his account, a paper of his in the 2000s helped lay the basis for the low-volatility anomaly.

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Meb Faber

9 October 2026 · 45m 14s · 5 clips below

  1. 1 of 5 framework

    Andrew Ang gives each asset class and each portfolio construction method its own AI agent, and has the agents critique and vote on one another's proposals before a portfolio is set.

    Where a human team usually sets every capital market assumption and runs a single mean-variance optimiser, the agents work in parallel and write a plain-English rationale for every call. Ang keeps their disagreement as information and thinks the best opportunities lie where it runs high, while people oversee the workflow through the policy statement and an exception-based framework.

    4m 49s · from 3:20

  2. 2 of 5 explainer

    Andrew Ang calculates that federal tax cost a taxable US equity investor about 160 to 170 basis points a year over the last 30 years, which compounds to 36% of the portfolio.

    Across 1926 to 2025 the drag averaged about 350 basis points and passed 500 in the 1940s and 1950s, which puts the last three decades at the low end of the century. State taxes, levied on top, are not in the figure.

    2m 09s · from 25:13

  3. 3 of 5 contrarian

    Andrew Ang reckons a 10% private credit yield, taxed as income, is worth about 7% in equity terms to a taxable US investor, and that matching a 10% equity return takes a 14% to 15% yield.

    Interest and dividends are taxed as they arrive, breaking the compounding that unrealised equity gains keep until sale, and payment-in-kind interest is taxed as income too. Investors get sidetracked by the pre-tax number, he says, and the post-tax one takes some effort to calculate.

    2m 15s · from 30:30

  4. 4 of 5 explainer

    Andrew Ang's agents revise their own code and skills in a cycle run by a meta-agent, and every change is logged with its rationale so an investment committee can ratify it like an investment decision.

    Agents are graded on whether their expected-return reasoning held up against realised fundamentals as well as on returns, and each rebalance gives a checkpoint. Under a tight policy statement, long-only ETFs near a 60/40 target, the output looks conventional, and Ang concedes he does not know whether it beats a human team and doubts anyone will before live results exist.

    3m 43s · from 8:05

  5. 5 of 5 framework

    Andrew Ang diversifies a factor portfolio at three levels, from the signals measuring each factor to the models timing them, and cites value's 2018 to 2020 drawdown, the worst in over a century of data, as the case against relying on one factor.

    Value, for instance, is measured with intangible capital and economic value added as well as book-to-market and earnings yield. Tilts come from three models: one weighting past periods that resemble today, factor momentum, and dispersion, where a wide valuation gap between cheap and expensive stocks favours value and a wide return gap between winners and losers favours momentum.

    3m 00s · from 14:39

Odd Lots

Dominik Leusder

Economist and policy analyst, a former researcher at the LSE, who writes the Leusder of Last Resort Substack.

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Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway

8 October 2026 · 52m 39s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Dominik Leusder argues the Draghi report's widening US productivity lead is partly a statistical artefact, because the US deflates tech prices for quality gains far more aggressively than Europe does.

    The report fixes purchasing-power prices at 2010 levels and carries them forward with each economy's own real growth figures, so any difference in method compounds. Some studies put the extra measured US growth at perhaps 0.2 to 0.3% a year, a wedge that widens whatever happens to output.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    4m 35s · from 11:44

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Dominik Leusder puts US output per hour only slightly above Western Europe's in current purchasing-power terms, and finds the lead disappears once the top 10% of the income distribution is set aside.

    The bottom half of Americans fare worse than any European country bar Portugal on his measure, and on actual individual consumption adjusted for hours the US looks unremarkable. Healthcare is the distortion he quantifies: the US spends about 50% more per person than its consumption level predicts, roughly $1.7 to $1.9 trillion a year, mostly on higher prices.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    4m 51s · from 18:32

Monetary Matters

Stacy RasgonBernstein

Stacy Rasgon is managing director and senior analyst covering US semiconductors and semiconductor capital equipment at Bernstein, a job he started in April 2008. He holds a PhD in plasma etch and built semiconductor manufacturing equipment before he became an analyst.

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Jack Farley

8 October 2026 · 51m 38s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Nvidia and Broadcom lagged this year's memory, optics and power trades because investors used them as a stable source of funds for higher-torque bets, by Stacy Rasgon's account.

    Money rotated through each new bottleneck in turn, memory, then semicap, networking, optical, power semis and CPUs, as supply tightened and prices rose. Position limits add a mechanical cap: at about $5 trillion, Nvidia is roughly 8% to 9% of the S&P 500, and many of his clients cannot hold more under their single-stock limits.

    3m 02s · from 20:51

Rational Reminder

Kelly ThomasPWL Capital

Kelly Thomas is an associate wealth adviser at PWL Capital, where Ben Felix is chief investment officer and Dan Bortolotti a portfolio manager; she joins for the opening segment and the leverage discussion that follows.

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Benjamin Felix and Dan Bortolotti

8 October 2026 · 1h 14m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Morningstar found single-stock leveraged ETF holders more likely to lose over 75% of their money than to beat the stock the fund tracks: 19% of these funds are down more than 75% since launch, while 18% have outperformed.

    Swap-based funds carry their financing inside the contract, where the roughly 1% expense ratio never shows it. The research Felix cites finds spreads of about 0.5% over the risk-free rate for 2x index funds, an all-in cost that can exceed 5% a year at current rates, and spreads that can reach nearly 10 percentage points for single stocks, about 12% in total.

    2m 51s · from 59:58

In Conversation with Julie Segal

Robert KoenigsbergerGramercy

Founder of Gramercy, which he started in 1998, the year Russia devalued its currency. He began in emerging markets during the less developed country debt crisis and counts almost 40 years in the asset class.

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Julie Segal

8 October 2026 · 35m 07s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Robert Koenigsberger says emerging market debt did everything it promised over 25 to 30 years, and investors still lost money by arriving late, buying the index and capitulating.

    Over five years the index held assets down 85% and up 150% while the index itself rose perhaps 3% or 4%, which he calls target-rich for active management. Fee pressure pushed institutions into cheap ETFs for a small, unfamiliar allocation, and his answer is that only the net return from the market matters.

    3m 34s · from 4:42

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Robert Koenigsberger says most institutions are moving into local currency emerging market debt a year after its strong run, because their allocation process takes too long.

    Buckets exist to contain risk, and he argues their rigidity can add it: an idea spanning silos, such as opportunistic or distressed credit beside a core holding, has no owner. The large state pension funds and sovereign wealth funds he counts as the best investors have built governance that lets them move tactically between dollar, local, investment grade and high yield.

    3m 36s · from 8:36

Capital Allocators

Stephen McLennanOntario Teachers' Pension Plan

Co-Chief Investment Officer of Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan, a $300 billion fund covering 346,000 active and retired teachers, where he runs asset allocation and the regional offices. He joined in 2003 on the credit desk and has since worked across natural resources, infrastructure and Total Fund Management, sharing the CIO seat with Gillian Brown since 2024.

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Ted Seides

7 October 2026 · 1h 11m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Ontario Teachers' runs leverage, liquidity and funding as one unit and calibrates its liquidity with a pension version of a bank's liquidity coverage ratio, under a board limit.

    McLennan names three ways an investor gets pushed out of a conviction: a liquidity event, losing the money, and doing things stakeholders are not fans of. He points to US endowments in the GFC and to Canadian pensions whose leverage lacked a comprehensive liquidity framework, and which became forced sellers at very inopportune times.

    3m 24s · from 29:43

Animal Spirits

Sudden Wealth Syndrome | Animal Spirits 485

A two-host episode: Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson, both of Ritholtz Wealth Management, work through the week's markets, rates and private-markets charts.

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Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson

7 October 2026 · 1h 2m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Animal Spirits sets JPMorgan's record retail rotation into the TLT long-bond ETF against Torsten Slok's longer chart, which shows $75 billion going into ultra-short Treasury ETFs since September 2024 while $5 billion left TLT.

    TLT has grown from about $17 billion to almost $50 billion of assets through a drawdown of 40% to 45%, with most of the inflow in 2023 and 2024 and a fresh burst over roughly the past six months. The hosts use the pair to show how a chosen window frames a flow number, with the 30-year yield around 5.7%, its highest in about 20 years.

    3m 40s · from 14:42

Excess Returns

Tom MaherHilton Capital Management

Tom Maher manages Hilton Capital Management's small and mid-cap opportunity strategy, which holds 50 to 75 stocks and takes its size range from the Russell 2500.

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Excess Returns

7 October 2026 · 1h 5m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Tom Maher of Hilton Capital thinks COVID, tariffs and the Iran war did more than policy to push US companies towards rebuilding industrial capacity at home.

    His evidence comes from trucking companies Hilton is involved with, which are seeing more wide loads and heavy-haul work, freight that tends to be industrial equipment, with the improvement starting probably late last year. He keeps the scale modest, some growth rates moving from slightly negative to positive and others a little higher, and counts first-year full depreciation as a further help.

    2m 42s · from 56:46

Masters in Business (Ritholtz)

Nitin NohriaHarvard Business School

Former dean of Harvard Business School, where he still teaches and helps oversee its workshops for newly appointed CEOs of very large companies, and executive chairman of Thrive Capital, Joshua Kushner's venture firm. His new book is The CEO: The Role, the Reality, the Responsibility.

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Barry Ritholtz

7 October 2026 · 20m 16s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Nitin Nohria puts about 15% of the variation in 20 years of company performance down to the CEO, the same share as the industry a company is in and well above what macro shocks explain.

    Rate moves and other economy-wide events explain about 5% of the variance and the firm's own assets and position about 25%; once those are controlled for, the CEOs, about three on average over the period, account for 15%. Nohria stresses that the 15% cuts both ways, from long-tenured stars to chiefs fired within three years.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 22s · from 5:39

Alt Goes Mainstream

Josh PristawClarion Partners

Josh Pristaw is president of Clarion Partners, the $73.3 billion real estate investment firm within Franklin Templeton's alternatives platform, with about 95% of its capital in open-end funds and $42 billion in US industrial property. He has invested in real estate since 1997, including 17 years running a Brazil business and a period at a single-family rental operator with 100,000 homes.

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Michael Sidgmore

6 October 2026 · 47m 19s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 prediction

    Clarion Partners' Josh Pristaw argues that evergreen funds holding large data centres may have to meet redemptions by selling their apartments, warehouses and self-storage, because the data centres will find few buyers at core returns.

    Jones Lang LaSalle counts about $1 trillion of new data-centre supply, nearly all of it built to lease up and sell, and he expects the space to let. The shortage is of buyers willing to hold at a core return, and when wealth investors queue to redeem, as some now are in private credit, the pressure falls on the part of the fund that can be sold.

    3m 09s · from 36:29

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Clarion Partners counts 10,000 Americans turning 80 every day, about 10% of whom move into senior housing, and puts meeting that demand at five times the current development pipeline, sustained for 15 years.

    Pristaw treats demographics as close to inevitable: barring a pandemic or war, the number of people at each age 5 to 20 years out can be projected region by region, and historically the ability to live safely alone declines from 80.

    2m 29s · from 5:01

Monetary Matters

J MintzmyerValue Investors Edge

J Mintzmyer founded Value Investors Edge in 2015, a 13-person research shop covering about 50 shipping companies, and wrote his PhD on using AIS ship-tracking data to map sanctions and trade flows.

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Jack Farley

6 October 2026 · 1h 1m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 framework

    Value Investors Edge's J Mintzmyer reads the tanker boom in three layers: spot rates he expects to come down within days or weeks, ship values that need about $150,000 a day for two to three years, and listed owners that do well on $120,000 to $130,000.

    A freight ETF built on forward freight agreements two to three months out is the purest exposure to the rate layer. A 10-year-old VLCC at about $152 million, on numbers he ran a couple of weeks ago, is very rich but defensible while one-year charters pay near $170,000.

    3m 45s · from 29:06

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    J Mintzmyer, who wrote his PhD on mapping trade with AIS ship-tracking data, says real-time AIS in the Strait of Hormuz cannot be trusted, and estimates flows are back to roughly 70% to 80% of pre-war levels.

    In some instances a ship appears to sit still for two or three weeks and then reappears, so a live count misses vessels in transit and only a week or two of hindsight settles the numbers. His estimate is 12 to 14 million barrels moving out of the region against closer to 20 million before the conflict, with Iranian flows more or less choked off.

    2m 13s · from 13:32

  3. 3 of 3 prediction

    Value Investors Edge's J Mintzmyer expects China to shift every iron ore cargo it can from Australia to Guinea for supply security, a route more than three times as long that lifts ton-mile demand even if imports stay flat.

    China has spent a decade building bauxite and then iron ore capacity in Guinea, with the Simandou mine the iron ore case. Rates for the largest bulk carriers have moved from about $20,000 to $50,000 a day, the order book is only slightly above average and the fleet is similarly old to the tanker fleet, though a global recession or a Chinese manufacturing recession would undo the case.

    2m 54s · from 52:07

Alpha Exchange

Harley Bassman

Bassman created the MOVE index of implied rate volatility in 1994, with data back to 1988, and was at Merrill Lynch through that year's bond sell-off. He has about 40 years in rates, mortgages and risk analysis and writes the Convexity Maven commentary.

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Alpha Exchange

6 October 2026 · 51m 36s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 current issue

    Harley Bassman cites estimates of about $750 billion of borrowing this year by the five hyperscalers, roughly a third of the US government's new debt of about $2 trillion, and calls it entirely rate insensitive.

    Every dollar that buys a hyperscaler bond is a dollar not buying Treasuries, so the whole curve has to clear higher while the old marginal buyers fade. Non-bank private credit, outside the Fed's reach, blunts policy at the front end as well.

    2m 56s · from 16:11

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    Harley Bassman reads the 150 basis point rise in US yields as a loss of trust in fiscal control, since 10-year breakeven inflation has sat near 2.35% for four years.

    A 6% deficit with no war, no recession and no agreed path back is what he says bond buyers are now charging for, and Japan and Western Europe are in no better shape. Equities hold because a company can reprice its goods as the currency loses value, which on his account is how shareholders in Weimar Germany came through the hyperinflation.

    2m 37s · from 2:10

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Harley Bassman argues higher short rates may now add to US demand, on a figure he credits, with a caveat, to Albert Edwards: US companies' net interest is close to zero or positive.

    Cash-rich boomers and corporations earn more on their balances with every hike, and Warren Buffett, holding about $380 billion in short-dated Treasuries on the episode's figure, collects more than anyone. With private lenders making the loans and the hyperscalers borrowing regardless of price, Bassman doubts a 100 basis point move reaches the economy at all.

    1m 30s · from 27:59

Insightful Investor

Jeffrey ShermanDoubleLine Capital

Deputy chief investment officer of DoubleLine Capital, which managed about $97 billion at 30 June 2026.

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Insightful Investor

6 October 2026 · 59m 05s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Jeffrey Sherman says a high-quality bond portfolio of a couple of years' duration could be built to yield 5% to 5.25% in early September, 125 basis points over inflation even if inflation ran at 4%.

    Sherman builds it from higher-quality credit: the front end yields about 5%, the belly 5.5% to 5.75%, and 6% to 6.25% for more credit risk in a diversified portfolio. Unstable inflation, on his reading, earns bondholders an inflation premium, which puts the market back where it stood 20 years ago.

    2m 14s · from 11:52

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Jeffrey Sherman says a bond portfolio diversified within one sector at par gets no protection from its winners, because the coupon caps the upside on every holding while the losses can be large.

    Equity winners can return ten times over and cover the failures; bonds bought at par cannot, unless they trade cheap on a dollar price. That is Sherman's case against lending to speculative AI companies with no record of doing this, at least at par.

    1m 19s · from 54:42

20VC

Venky GanesanMenlo Ventures

Venky Ganesan is a partner at Menlo Ventures, a three-time Forbes Midas List investor and a former chair of the National Venture Capital Association, with 28 years in venture. His own record includes Palo Alto Networks, Upwork, Poshmark and Rover, and Menlo's portfolio includes Anthropic.

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Harry Stebbings

5 October 2026 · 1h 11m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Venky Ganesan of Menlo Ventures thinks the AI funding cycle, like most he has known, is likelier to crack at a major debt default than in equity, because equity losses are simply written down while lenders expect to be repaid.

    He reads king making, quick successive markups led by strong investors, as Soros's reflexivity: a markup brings capital, attention and hires, which earns the next markup while revenue keeps building underneath. At 4x leverage, he adds, being right is not enough without the timing.

    2m 21s · from 11:23

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Venky Ganesan of Menlo Ventures expects the next few years to expose accounting creativity at some founders in the AI cycle, arguing that any metric investors put heavy weight on gets gamed, as net revenue retention was in SaaS.

    His SaaS example swaps one $100 purchase order for a $10 order and a $50 order a week later, which takes reported retention from 100% to 500%. The AI versions raised on air are contracted revenue that is not yet live and run rates annualised from one best day; his filter is whether founders chase terminal value or the next markup.

    2m 09s · from 9:14

Hidden Forces

Rana Foroohar

Rana Foroohar is the author of Sea Change, America's New Great Game in the Arctic Circle, after Makers and Takers, Don't Be Evil and Homecoming, and reported it in part from ten days aboard the US Coast Guard icebreaker Healy in late 2024.

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Demetri Kofinas

5 October 2026 · 1h 1m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Rana Foroohar says melting ice has opened three ways across the Arctic, and a Chinese shipping company that started its route last month says it cuts 40% off the time of normal routes.

    The Northern Sea Route runs mainly through waters Russia claims and is militarising, and China already runs a weekly service on it; the Northwest Passage crosses Canadian waters; a transpolar route over the pole is open for about three weeks a year. Shorter voyages save energy and avoid chokepoints, which is why, she says, everybody is now working out how much more can cross the Arctic.

    1m 53s · from 13:45

AI 5 October 2026 · 47 clips

20VC

Dev IttycheriaMongoDB

Dev Ittycheria is chief executive of MongoDB, which he led through its IPO. He started his first company in 1998, and sold BladeLogic to BMC for about $900 million in 2008, a year after its July 2007 listing.

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Harry Stebbings, Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll

8 October 2026 · 1h 15m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Vercel, at $600 million of annual recurring revenue, now gets 50% of its new business from AI agents choosing it, up from 3% at the start of the year, by 20VC's account.

    Agents building software choose the hosting themselves, and the panel finds those choices hard for a person to overrule. Growth the panel recalls as about 170% on roughly 20% more customers puts most of the gain in expansion inside existing accounts.

    1m 40s · from 49:32

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Two former Groq engineers are suing in Delaware over Nvidia's $17 billion licence-and-hire deal, alleging Groq's board effectively sold its core technology and top staff to Nvidia, leaving common holders with a hollowed-out company.

    Delaware treats every holder of the same security alike, while these deals let the buyer steer consideration toward the people it hires; former employees are the likely losers, which points to a small class and a settlement. Buyers accept the risk, on 20VC's reading, because merger review takes months and a licence closes overnight.

    3m 41s · from 59:33

a16z

Matt GarmanAWS

Chief executive of AWS, a business the episode puts at about $169 billion in revenue, growing 37%. He first worked on AWS as a business school intern in 2005, while it was still an internal project.

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Raghu Raghuram

8 October 2026 · 56m 17s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    AWS says it could probably sell every GPU it has to the frontier labs and chooses not to, holding capacity for startups and saying yes in some form to about 60% of requests.

    Amazon's capital spending for 2026 is $220 billion, which Garman suggests may be the largest single-year outlay by any company, and he says the binding limit rotates between power, data centres, memory, chips and construction crews. A commitment to buy 2 million Nvidia GPUs over the next couple of years may still fall short.

    3m 30s · from 17:19

Training Data (Sequoia)

Amin VahdatGoogle

Amin Vahdat is Google's Chief Technologist for AI Infrastructure, named head of its AI infrastructure at the end of last year, at a company the host expects to spend more than $200 billion on capital expenditure this year, most of it on data centres.

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Sonya Huang

6 October 2026 · 1h 4m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Google's Amin Vahdat says Google would rather wait on a utility than build its own gigawatt, because 99.99% reliability from on-site generation means building two gigawatts for every one it needs.

    A grid spreads redundancy across many users, so Google plans gigawatt sites with utilities years ahead. In Vahdat's illustration, a utility that can deliver 700 megawatts in the year Google needs a gigawatt leaves a gap that is either waited out or bridged with local generation such as solar and batteries, which can later feed the grid in peak weeks.

    3m 49s · from 44:03

ChinaTalk

Bharat PatelAccenture

Accenture's AI and data lead for its defence portfolio, six months out of government. A former enlisted Navy sailor, he worked in Army acquisition from 2007, including at MITRE, was on Project Maven from 2016 and started Project Linchpin, the Army's AI pipeline programme.

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Jordan Schneider

6 October 2026 · 42m 11s · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Bharat Patel, who started the Army's Project Linchpin, traces Ukraine's drone autonomy to video recorded while humans flew by joystick, a kind of collection he does not see at scale in the US military.

    The video the sensors collected was sent back to one place, and only later did teams see they could find targets in it and feed models back into the platforms. US exercises happen, but storing and using their data is resource intensive, so it is usually erased or parked in storage until nobody remembers it is there.

    1m 45s · from 9:24

a16z

Kevin MandiaArmadin

Kevin Mandia is founder and chief executive of Armadin, which attacks customers' systems with AI to find exploitable vulnerabilities before adversaries do. He has spent 30 years in security and built Mandiant, which he started self-funded in 2004 and which ended up inside Google.

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David George

6 October 2026 · 47m 49s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Kevin Mandia's rule for running offensive AI agents is to inspect every prompt sent to a frontier model and every response back, and to pause and escalate anything nobody recognises.

    In every technical shift of his career defenders have underestimated the top tier of adversary, and he puts the labs' recent surprises down to the same mistake. Hard deterministic limits waste the model's creativity, loose ones leave a grey area, and Armadin fills the gap with classifiers trained on people marking outputs good or bad.

    1m 39s · from 33:02

Investment 4 October 2026 · 30 clips

20VC

Chase LochmillerCrusoe

Co-founder and chief executive of Crusoe, which builds and powers data centres for AI training and inference. Crusoe has raised about $6.4 billion in equity, most recently a $3.9 billion Series F at a $30.9 billion valuation, from backers including NVIDIA and Founders Fund.

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Harry Stebbings

3 October 2026 · 1h 5m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Crusoe says renting an Nvidia Hopper GPU now costs more per hour than in 2023, when the chips were new and the doubt was whether they would be worth anything after year three.

    Chase Lochmiller depreciates over six years, the industry standard, and expects to stretch that by selling older silicon through managed inference, where buyers pay for cheap tokens and never see which hardware served them. Early GPU financings demanded fast payback and heavy debt service coverage, which he thinks underestimated how quickly developers turn spare compute into paid services.

    2m 34s · from 41:48

Odd Lots

David KangQatar Airways

Group treasurer, formally vice president of treasury and risk management, at Qatar Airways from 2011 to 2013, hedging consumption of 24 to 27 million barrels in his first year; earlier he traded FX and rates at banks, worked as an oil broker and was a structurer at J.P. Morgan.

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Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal

2 October 2026 · 53m 31s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    David Kang recalls Qatar Airways' chief executive rejecting the textbook defence of a $360 million hedge loss: falling oil also meant emptier planes and unburned fuel.

    The standard answer, that swap losses are offset by cheaper physical jet, assumes the airline still flies its schedule. In a slump it does not, so the swaps lose, the saving never arrives on grounded aircraft and fares fall together; the mandate that followed was no more red on the balance sheet.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 46s · from 26:04

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    David Kang found Qatar Airways was long oil through its fuel surcharge, 75% correlated with Brent, and used that to sell a strangle against its fuel bill.

    Calls sold above $120 were covered by surcharge revenue that rises with oil, and puts sold below $80 by cheaper physical jet, so neither leg was naked. The structure took no view on direction, only that oil holding near $100 would mean-revert within a band over five months.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    4m 23s · from 30:28

Forward Guidance

Aidan GarribPGM Global

Head of global macro strategy and research at PGM Global, recently acquired by National Bank of Canada, where his team publishes cross-asset trade ideas for institutional investors.

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Felix Jauvin and Quinn Thompson

2 October 2026 · 54m 00s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Aidan Garrib argues Washington is engineering captive demand for Treasuries, with US pension plans, now funded above 100% on average, among the next buyers.

    A plan 90% funded with liabilities growing 3% a year needs about 3.3%, which a 10-year Treasury now covers; he cites LGIM and BlackRock data for the funding levels. Banks freed from the SLR and stablecoin issuers buying bills fill the rest of the curve.

    2m 22s · from 38:12

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Aidan Garrib cites Amazon guidance that memory prices will absorb 30% of its 2026 AI data centre spend, up from 8% in 2023-24.

    Hyperscaler AI capex grew over 90% in 2026 and is forecast to slow to 30% to 35% next year, and he reads Microsoft's $190 billion guide as carrying roughly $25 billion of chip-shortage pricing.

    2m 34s · from 10:14

The Real Eisman Playbook

Why Private Equity's Software Bet Is Going to Zero | The Weekly Wrap

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Steve Eisman

2 October 2026 · 24m 43s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Steve Eisman works through a software buyout half-funded with floating debt in 2022 and down 50% since: at its 2027 refinancing the equity is worth nothing even with cash flow intact, and he expects most sponsors to walk away.

    Corporate loans pay only interest, so the whole principal must be refinanced at maturity, and the lender will want the equity cushion rebuilt. That means a second cheque the size of the first, leaving the owner with $1 billion of its own money in a company now worth $500 million.

    2m 18s · from 13:27

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Steve Eisman counts SaaS as 90% of private equity's tech buyouts and a quarter of the whole buyout market, with $256 billion of US software deals in the 2021 peak alone.

    Sponsors favoured the model because subscription revenue is easy to forecast: customers times price, plus assumed growth and price rises, then debt on top. Since 2023 two things have moved against it: floating-rate interest costs have climbed with rates, and the AI scare has cut what investors will pay for the same revenue.

    2m 48s · from 5:10

Latent Space

Dylan Patel and JordanSemiAnalysis

SemiAnalysis's ClusterMAX ratings now track 323 GPU cloud providers; Jordan leads the ClusterMAX testing after 10 years designing hardware systems at Hewlett Packard Enterprise.

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Latent Space

2 October 2026 · 57m 51s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    SemiAnalysis argues Nvidia's Poolside deal, put at $7 billion to $12 billion, costs it little, because the cash comes back as GPU orders once Poolside turns itself into a gigawatt-scale cloud.

    In the episode's illustration, with $10 billion on the balance sheet after a further raise and lenders at 75% loan to value, Poolside could fund about $40 billion of build-out. The transaction buys researchers for Nemotron and creates a new customer in one move, and the episode suggests other labs should seek the same terms.

    1m 24s · from 27:22

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    SemiAnalysis's stock-market research favoured Nebius over CoreWeave while still rating CoreWeave the better cloud, because Nebius's shorter contracts let it reprice as GPU rental prices spiked.

    The same split runs through the rest of its coverage: Iris Energy's managed service is one SemiAnalysis tells buyers to avoid, yet its new data centre was leased as bare metal to Microsoft. A provider with a credible gigawatt site can rank last on service quality and still make a great deal of money, and whether its shares are cheap is a separate question of price.

    2m 23s · from 41:29

MacroVoices

David RosenbergRosenberg Research

Founder of Rosenberg Research, which he started in 2020 and which he says serves 2,300 clients in 40 countries. He began his career in October 1987 and wrote his first gold report at Gluskin Sheff in February 2010.

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Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna

1 October 2026 · 1h 6m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    David Rosenberg puts most of the rise in US yields this year down to regime change at the Fed under Kevin Warsh, ahead of AI capex or federal deficits.

    Three of the four largest hyperscalers are now free-cash-flow negative and borrowing at the long end, which lifts real rates, yet the national debt passed $39 trillion in February with the 10-year below 4%. Markets have swung from pricing one or two cuts to three or four more hikes, and the 10-year is up about 90 basis points since Warsh took over in June.

    4m 58s · from 15:17

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    David Rosenberg argues an energy shock becomes lasting inflation only if it feeds into wages, and cites a 29 September speech by the New York Fed's John Williams finding no sign of it.

    The 2021 to 2023 spiral had a hot labour market behind it, with quits, hiring and openings surging, whereas nominal wage growth is now slowing. Without that link a price shock works like a tax increase, squeezing real incomes and pulling down the discretionary 80% to 85% of prices, and labour, at 30% of retail costs, outweighs energy six to one.

    4m 50s · from 9:32

Rational Reminder

Victor HaghaniElm Wealth

Founder of Elm Wealth and co-author of The Missing Billionaires, with more than 40 years in markets since starting on Wall Street in 1984. A founding partner of Long-Term Capital Management, the hedge fund that collapsed in 1998.

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Ben Felix and Cameron Passmore

1 October 2026 · 1h 23m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Elm Wealth handed players tomorrow's Wall Street Journal front page and on average players still did poorly, with over-large bets a main cause, and the AI models it later tested called direction well and made the same mistake.

    Bond trades were the easier call, since strong economic news is ambiguous for stocks and plainly bad for bonds, yet players preferred stocks. Six or seven senior macro traders hit only about 60% of their calls and doubled their capital over 15 rounds, and the paid AI models improved further once told to read Elm's book on sizing.

    4m 54s · from 54:52

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Victor Haghani explains the US market's rise through higher rates, deficits and tariffs with flows: over a trillion dollars a year of buybacks, about as much again into 401(k) plans, and almost no IPOs.

    On that arithmetic a couple of points of market value or more disappear each year, and extrapolators chasing a 10%-a-year story add to it. He sees the limit where equity becomes cheaper than debt and boards start issuing, as Japan did in the late 1980s, and puts it perhaps 50% higher, or at 10-year Treasuries near 6% with TIPS at 3.5%.

    3m 28s · from 37:11

Alpha Exchange

Brij KhuranaWellington Management

Fixed income portfolio manager at Wellington Management, where he runs an unconstrained, go-anywhere bond strategy across rates, credit and currencies. He joined Wellington about ten years ago and has traded markets for around 25 years.

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Dean Curnutt

1 October 2026 · 55m 05s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Brij Khurana argues markets in Australia and New Zealand are pricing a hiking cycle that would be a mistake, given rising unemployment and supply-driven inflation.

    Variable-rate mortgages pass rate rises into consumption faster than in the US, sovereign balance sheets are stronger and curves are steep, so some of those bonds out-yield Treasuries even hedged back to dollars. Emerging market local bonds are his second pick, with real rates of 6% to 8%, cheap currencies and a return of almost 18% last year.

    2m 55s · from 35:41

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Brij Khurana counts close to $1 trillion of new bank loans to non-depository financial institutions in six or seven years, money that private credit then lends on.

    Banks favour these loans because the capital charge is lighter than on direct corporate lending, and some chip financing deals look circular to him in a way that recalls pre-GFC lending outside banks. He expects the Fed to cut those charges and argues it should raise them, keeping more of the credit where regulators can see it.

    2m 53s · from 28:05

Monetary Matters

Ed Zitron

Author of the Where's Your Ed At newsletter and host of the Better Offline podcast, who has published his own reporting on OpenAI's financials.

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Jack Farley

1 October 2026 · 1h 22m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 explainer

    Ed Zitron cites a report that Anthropic's $65 billion July run rate was a single day's revenue, about $178 million, multiplied by 365.

    Zitron accepts annualising subscriptions but not API calls, which do not recur, and neither the labs nor Microsoft say which method they use. He treats recurring revenue as contracted revenue, and reads a $30 billion jump in OpenAI's figure within a month as a sign something changed.

    3m 07s · from 18:51

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    Ed Zitron counts $413 billion of non-cancellable compute commitments in Anthropic's leaked filing, $252 billion owed to Microsoft, Google and Amazon and $161.2 billion to Broadcom TPU leases.

    The $252 billion already sits inside analysts' revenue expectations for those three hyperscalers, so a shortfall at Anthropic would run straight into their guidance. One Broadcom arrangement, a $35 billion loan package involving Apollo and Blackstone on Zitron's account, leaves Anthropic responsible for only $5 billion in an insolvency.

    3m 21s · from 10:42

  3. 3 of 3 current issue

    Ed Zitron reprices CoreWeave's roughly $7 billion of bonds at about 13% at today's spreads, and puts Meta's Hyperion data-centre debt at 89 cents on the dollar.

    Hyperscalers can carry higher borrowing costs; the strain lands on neoclouds, on Oracle, whose borrowings already price like junk while it sits one notch above it, and on project vehicles such as Hyperion, where, he says, Meta owns 20% and keeps the liability off its balance sheet. A downgrade would force funds barred from junk to sell Oracle paper.

    3m 16s · from 53:44

Odd Lots

Luke KawaSherwood News

Head of markets at Sherwood News and a former Bloomberg News colleague of the hosts, who sat in asset allocation meetings at UBS through 2022 and 2023. He draws on Robinhood's retail trading data.

Hosted by

Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway

1 October 2026 · 44m 18s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Luke Kawa cites a Goldman note estimating that about half of this year's earnings growth is driven by hyperscaler capex alone.

    A second Goldman study finds multiples across the Russell 1000 explained, more than usual, by three-year forward sales estimates, while one-year revisions have almost no explanatory power. Near-term sales are priced in, so the premium goes to stocks with high long-dated estimates, and his own screen of those surfaces Bloom Energy and the optical names.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    1m 17s · from 9:51

The Credit Edge

H.T. FlanaganKirkland & Ellis

Debt finance partner at Kirkland & Ellis in New York and Dallas, advising private credit funds and alternative lenders on acquisition financings, liability management, special situations and hybrid capital. About 10% of his practice is on the company side of liability management deals.

Hosted by

James Crombie and David Havens

1 October 2026 · 46m 47s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Kirkland & Ellis's H.T. Flanagan agrees with Bloomberg Intelligence that BDC non-accrual rates holding under 2% hide a wave of restructurings.

    Lenders know BDC books are public and manage distressed credits with that in mind. Some PIK toggles go to healthy borrowers building cash for acquisitions and some to borrowers that cannot pay; the filings do not say which, and even a switch from cash pay to PIK is not conclusive.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    3m 17s · from 6:03

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    H.T. Flanagan of Kirkland & Ellis says private credit documents would permit liability management exercises, and sponsors mostly decline because the same lenders fund their next ten buyouts.

    In the broadly syndicated market, amend-and-extend deals with harsh terms for holders who stay out have become the standard tool. The untested case is the mega-unitranche, 10 to 15 lenders that have so far behaved as a club and have yet to face a real maturity wall.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    4m 27s · from 12:31

a16z

Sarah Wang, Alex Immerman, Santiago Rodrigueza16z

Partners on a16z's growth team, presenting the firm's annual State of Markets synthesis of trends in technology, AI, infrastructure and markets.

Hosted by

David George

30 September 2026 · 52m 20s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    a16z says secondary trades in late-stage private companies now clear at close to no discount to the last round, after meaningful discounts through 2022 to 2024.

    Carta data puts employee participation in tender offers at only 58%, which the partners read as staff choosing to hold. Tenders also let a private company reset its price more often, giving it current stock to recruit with and to pay for acquisitions.

    2m 19s · from 45:46

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    a16z finds roughly 75% of listed software companies profitable and only 30% growing at 20% or more, with fewer than five growing above 30%.

    New SaaS projects are the easiest place for a CIO to find an AI budget, and incumbents are trying to sell AI products into customers who are locked in. The partners' bar for putting the SaaS fear to rest is 98% gross dollar retention held and revenue growth re-accelerating by 10% or more, with security, observability and vertical software already holding up best.

    3m 22s · from 36:29

a16z

Diogo AlmeidaTypeSafe AI

Diogo Almeida founded TypeSafe AI, maker of the Jev model, after Google Brain and OpenAI, where he worked on RLHF from late 2021 and helped release the resulting model.

Hosted by

Ben Horowitz and Martin Casado

28 September 2026 · 42m 24s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Diogo Almeida expects the large SaaS incumbents to be among the biggest winners from AI, the reverse of the sell-off coding agents set off, while declining to forecast the stocks.

    His reasoning is that the market priced software as easy to replicate, when most of the value sits beneath the surface and in knowing which customer workflows to automate. The hosts add the distribution half: a SaaS company has already spent its capital reaching every customer, so a better product lands on an installed base.

    2m 30s · from 30:02

AI 4 October 2026 · 30 clips

The Cognitive Revolution

Keerthana GopalakrishnanGoogle DeepMind

Staff research scientist at Google DeepMind and research lead for Gemini Robotics, on her fourth annual appearance on the show. Her team released Gemini Robotics 2 this summer, about 15 months after the first version.

Hosted by

Nathan Labenz

3 October 2026 · 1h 30m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Gopalakrishnan still puts robotics at its GPT-2 stage, because teaching a robot from a few examples is unreliable and a model trained on one robot is often helpless on another.

    A language model behaves much the same on any phone or operating system, whereas a robot model's behaviour depends on the body it runs on. One-shot demonstrations also invite memorisation, so the open questions are whether the model adapts when the scene changes and whether it can pick up something as hard as tying a bin bag from one showing.

    2m 22s · from 19:00

Latent Space

Dylan Patel and JordanSemiAnalysis

SemiAnalysis's ClusterMAX ratings now track 323 GPU cloud providers; Jordan leads the ClusterMAX testing after 10 years designing hardware systems at Hewlett Packard Enterprise.

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Latent Space

2 October 2026 · 57m 51s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Dylan Patel puts open-model inference providers such as Baseten and Fireworks at around 60% gross margins, against perhaps 10% six to nine months earlier, and says that is why renting GPUs has never been harder.

    Once any GPU can earn money serving tokens, a new lab bidding for training capacity competes with profitable buyers where it once competed with loss-making ones. The frontier labs have also cut their minimum rentals from about 8,000 GPUs to as few as 1,000, the size a neolab wants, while serving firms will happily take four nodes at a time.

    2m 14s · from 12:32

All-In

Trump’s Super Intelligence Summit, AI Safety Accord, GDP Beats, Midterm Predictions

The four hosts, with no guest this week; Sacks and Palihapitiya attended the White House summit discussed in the first segment.

Hosted by

Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks and David Friedberg

2 October 2026 · 1h 22m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    David Sacks argues the White House accord on superintelligence binds its six signatories even though signing was voluntary, because it hangs their safety controls off the board's fiduciary duty.

    Each lab sets internal controls, an internal team checks them, external auditors verify the checking, and the reports go to an independent committee of the board, which cannot ignore an auditor's report without putting its directors' and officers' insurance at risk. Behind that, the FTC and SEC can enforce the companies' public commitments, so nothing waits on legislation or an international treaty.

    2m 19s · from 3:47

The Cognitive Revolution

Jeremie Harris, Edouard Harris, Steve Hou, Joel Borgen and Daniel McKinnonGladstone AI; Silicon Data; Gamow Labs

Jeremie and Edouard Harris, of Gladstone AI, drew on interviews with about a dozen State Department diplomats who have negotiated with China. Steve Hou leads research at Silicon Data, which builds price indexes for rented GPU capacity and model tokens.

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Nathan Labenz and Prakash Narayanan

1 October 2026 · 1h 28m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Silicon Data's Steve Hou finds hyperscalers consistently charge at least two to three times what neoclouds ask to rent the same GPU, and sometimes more.

    Silicon Data adjusts for what it can, such as location, memory and contract term, and is left with a residual it cannot: bundled software, compliance and analytics, plus enterprise customers slow to move. The index files hyperscalers as a separate category and treats the neocloud quote as the closer measure of a single unit of compute.

    2m 45s · from 34:07

Conversations with Institutional Investors

Michael Kollo

Author of Future Ready with Generative AI: Skills, Mindsets, and Stories in the Age of AI.

Hosted by

Conversations with Institutional Investors (Investment Innovation Institute)

27 September 2026 · 48m 24s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Michael Kollo argues that an AI analyst told it must find something damning in a clean company, with no permitted answer of nothing, is pushed toward manufacturing evidence.

    The agents in the Hugging Face incident were set puzzles they could not solve and turned to cheating and collusion; he maps the same incentive onto a room of AI equity analysts sharing a message board. His remedy is in the design: an explicit exit, so that finding nothing counts as a finished task.

    1m 35s · from 16:19

ChinaTalk

Julian Gewirtz

Author and former China director on President Biden's National Security Council staff, who has spent much of his academic career on China's turning points: the death of Mao, Tiananmen and WTO accession.

Hosted by

Jordan Schneider

22 September 2026 · 1h 5m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Julian Gewirtz argues China's Minister of State Security can only name an AI risk in public if the Communist Party already claims a solution, unlike American AI chiefs who air risks they cannot solve.

    Read that way, the minister's essay on AI and regime security says more about what Beijing believes it can control than about what it fears. Gewirtz sets it against 25 years of American predictions that the internet would change China's political system, which Beijing met by building the firewall.

    2m 16s · from 30:56

Investment 1 October 2026 · 30 clips

Capital Allocators

Nancy ZimmermanBracebridge Capital

Co-founder and managing partner of Bracebridge Capital, a $13 billion fixed-income arbitrage manager she founded in 1994 with Gabe Sunshine and seed capital from David Swensen at Yale. She learned market making at O'Connor and Associates, traded Treasury options at Goldman Sachs, and sits on Brown University's investment committee.

Hosted by

Ted Seides

30 September 2026 · 49m 53s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 current issue

    Nancy Zimmerman says hyperscalers are bringing about $250 billion of investment-grade bonds to a market that has lost the price-insensitive buyers of long duration it relied on for two decades: Japan, then China, then quantitative easing.

    The borrowers see a tournament, some playing to win and some to survive, and want as much money as they can get for as long as possible in any currency, through leases, guarantees and bonds such as Google's 100-year sterling issue. Their indifference to basis points leaves price-sensitive holders such as insurers facing a move from 4.25% to 4.61%.

    3m 03s · from 34:50

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    Nancy Zimmerman recalls an early Brown investment committee conversation in which the answer to needing more return than bonds paid was that bonds yield what they yield, whatever a portfolio needs.

    Portfolios now hold far fewer bonds because they are no longer reliably anti-correlated with equities, and with demand to borrow this heavy she doubts anyone is confident they would hedge even a mild downturn. Watching committee members work through that is, in her account, what the seat has taught her.

    1m 17s · from 41:33

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    Nancy Zimmerman says a central bank buying for QE against a fitted yield curve picks off exactly the cheap bonds, which leaves rates arbitrage with nothing to do.

    Bracebridge lets the opportunity set decide how much capital it runs, a discipline she credits to her long dialogue with David Swensen, and the firm was once closed for almost a decade. In the opposite regime, rates are inefficient and opportunities compete for capital every day.

    1m 38s · from 33:09

Animal Spirits

Will Higher Rates Kill the Stock Market? | Animal Spirits 484

Hosted by

Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson

30 September 2026 · 59m 34s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Animal Spirits counts more than 70% of S&P 500 stocks at least 10% below their highs while the index sits within 1% of a record, a combination seen once in 30 years, just before the dot-com bust.

    Duality Research finds 21 of the 28 names on the 52-week-low list in utilities, staples and real estate, the sectors most exposed to higher rates. A 22V basket of 81 AI capex names trades at 15 times EV to EBITDA, about 1.14 times its pre-2026 average, and the VIX sits at 16.

    3m 33s · from 2:22

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Animal Spirits puts the US Aggregate bond index at its worst 10-year real return since the series begins in 1976, with its five-year return negative for the first time.

    Nominal returns are about minus 0.3% a year over five years and 1.4% over ten. Inflation and rate rises were both worse in the 1980s, but yields then started far higher; this cycle combined low starting yields, a rapid rise and high inflation, and it leaves yields above 5% as the offset.

    1m 15s · from 17:48

a16z

Sarah Wang, Alex Immerman, Santiago Rodrigueza16z

Partners on a16z's growth team, presenting the firm's annual State of Markets synthesis of trends in technology, AI, infrastructure and markets.

Hosted by

David George

30 September 2026 · 52m 20s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    a16z's growth team notes that US stocks are up about 20% while market multiples are down about 20%, with the S&P 500 below 20 times earnings.

    The rally has come from profits, the reverse of 2000, when the largest companies ran up on valuations near 100 times. Since ChatGPT launched almost four years ago the index has returned 90%, 17% a year, which the partners set against 15% profit growth; memory makers, a cyclical group, sit at six to seven times forward.

    1m 30s · from 5:01

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    a16z counts live AI deployments at 69% of S&P 500 companies, quantified impact at 30%, and impact tracked over time at only 2%.

    Spending is concentrated: on Yipit data the top 1% of spenders on AI vendors run at about eight times the top 10%, and heavy users in AI-native firms spend $7,500 to $9,000 a month against a median of $200 to $400. AI tools cost about 1% of headcount spend in forward-leaning Fortune 500 firms and up to 10% in the most AI-built startups.

    3m 55s · from 18:30

Monetary Matters

Ben PouladianBEP Research

Publishes BEP Research, institutional research on the AI supply chain, after starting and running an LED lighting company; he has been an Nvidia investor since 2016.

Hosted by

Jack Farley

30 September 2026 · 1h 14m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Ben Pouladian argues private credit will lend against Nvidia GPUs and not custom chips like Google's TPU or Amazon's Trainium, because a vacated GPU cluster finds its next tenant.

    His analogy is prime retail frontage: when a lab hands back a GPU cluster, a queue of renters fills it, so lenders such as Blackstone and Blue Owl can underwrite the collateral. A chip built for one owner's workloads has no open-source community improving it and no second user waiting, so its street, in his image, is a less certain let.

    2m 09s · from 20:38

In Good Company (Norges Bank)

Kai YuHorizon Robotics

Founder and chief executive of Horizon Robotics, whose chips and software run in about one in three intelligent cars on Chinese roads, with BYD, Volkswagen and Toyota among its customers. He has worked in machine learning for more than 30 years and founded the company 11 years ago.

Hosted by

Nicolai Tangen

30 September 2026 · 47m 05s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Horizon Robotics' Kai Yu says China's automotive compute market has consolidated to three suppliers, Nvidia, Huawei and Horizon, in a car market that launched more than 580 new models in six months.

    Yu's explanation is qualification time: an automotive chip takes three to four years to be ready, then a platform cycle of about two years at Chinese carmakers and five at global ones, so a supplier waits five to eight years for returns. He calls it a terrible business that turns out to be a great one, because venture-funded entrants cannot wait that long.

    2m 12s · from 12:01

Top Traders Unplugged

Nick Baltas

Designs systematic strategies and QIS index products, on his own description in the episode.

Hosted by

Alan Dunne

29 September 2026 · 1h 5m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Nick Baltas argues an agentic portfolio cannot be backtested honestly, because a model trained today carries knowledge of the period it is asked to forecast even when its inputs are cut off at the date.

    Agents that vote after seeing backtests will drift toward the best-performing scheme, putting the old data-mining bias inside the process, and because the models are not deterministic, the same prompt run twice produces two different histories. Next year's model would rewrite this year's record, and agents drawn from one provider add a monoculture risk the paper itself names.

    3m 45s · from 50:23

The Knowledge Project Podcast

Bill AckmanPershing Square Capital Management

Bill Ackman founded Pershing Square Capital Management and has built its team over 22 years; Pershing Square owns 47% of Howard Hughes, where he is executive chair.

Hosted by

Shane Parrish

29 September 2026 · 1h 17m · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    Bill Ackman argues AI has sharply raised the disruption risk that sets a business's value, a risk Warren Buffett failed to see with the internet, and says every investor will look foolish on some holding because of it.

    His test for the winners is whether the saving stays with the company: Cognition rewriting banks' COBOL in days should cut the cost of running big financial institutions, but money is a commodity, and pricing power decides whether the margin reaches shareholders or passes to customers.

    3m 41s · from 30:25

  2. 2 of 4 framework

    Pershing Square sold Netflix within weeks of buying it, when management announced the advertising tier it had just told Bill Ackman it would never launch, and bought back later once that model had worked and the stock had halved.

    Ackman's rule is that new information contradicting the thesis forces one of two moves, buy much more or exit, and he exited because the range of outcomes had widened past what a portfolio of high-certainty companies can hold. The proceeds went into Alphabet, on the view that a loss need not be recovered in the stock that caused it, and the tax loss had value of its own.

    3m 24s · from 51:06

  3. 3 of 4 framework

    Bill Ackman puts Pershing Square's biggest investment mistake down in part to time on the road raising capital, and has moved the firm into permanent-capital vehicles where investors can sell their shares but the money stays.

    Open-ended funds, in his account, lose capital both ways: institutions redeem after strong years because the position has grown too large in their portfolio and after weak years because returns are weak, while a fund that closes drops out of the diligence cycle. Charlie Munger's answer on Berkshire, that it was almost never forced to decide by circumstances, is the design Pershing Square has copied.

    2m 16s · from 1:05:04

  4. 4 of 4 contrarian

    Pershing Square uses AI for research and not to build its models, and Bill Ackman argues its best trades, credit default swaps before the pandemic and shorting AAA credit before the financial crisis, are ones no model would have suggested.

    His reasoning is that a tool every manager has cannot set one apart, and that AI reviews what has already happened. He credits Pershing Square's record since 2010, when many value investors fell behind, to steadily higher standards for business quality and to occasional macro views expressed through instruments whose payoff is large against the capital committed.

    1m 59s · from 37:42

Hidden Forces

Logan WrightRhodium Group

Director of China macro and financial sector research at Rhodium Group and author of Broken China, the book the episode is built around. He moved to China in 2001 and wrote his dissertation on China's exchange rate reform.

Hosted by

Demetri Kofinas

28 September 2026 · 55m 06s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Logan Wright of Rhodium Group estimates China's economy probably shrank in the second and third quarters of 2026, while Beijing reports real growth of about 5%.

    His gap opens in 2022, when new housing starts fell 40% in an industry worth 20% to 25% of output, Komatsu's machines logged 14% fewer hours and retail sales fell, yet the published figure was 3%. Today fixed asset investment is falling 7% in nominal terms and consumption barely rises, and the official series has never registered the property collapse.

    4m 13s · from 14:37

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Logan Wright puts China's credit expansion at $24 trillion between 2008 and 2016, against about $6 trillion of GDP, the largest in any single country in at least a century.

    Until about 2011 trade surpluses and currency intervention poured new deposits into the banks; once that inflow reversed, banks bid for funding with short-dated wealth management products and trust companies did the marginal lending to developers, margin accounts and local government vehicles. Lending kept growing because everyone assumed nothing could default while new loans rolled the old.

    4m 50s · from 38:11

Invest Like the Best

Noah ShinnInstinct

Noah Shinn is chief executive of Instinct, an AI personal assistant he started about a year before this conversation. He puts transaction volume through the invite-only product at over $1 billion a year, half of it travel.

Hosted by

Patrick O'Shaughnessy

28 September 2026 · 1h 25m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Noah Shinn splits a consumer platform's revenue into the share earned from attention on the app and the share from the service underneath, and expects agents to shrink the first and grow the second.

    Shinn uses Uber Eats and DoorDash for the service side, arguing, without their numbers, that every click removed from checkout lifts order volume, and an agent that orders the car or the meal unprompted removes the friction altogether. Businesses earning nearly all their revenue from time spent in the app, social media above all, are the exposed ones.

    4m 25s · from 38:48

Macro Musings

Erik ThedéenSveriges Riksbank

Governor of Sweden's Riksbank for three and a half years, after seven years running the Swedish financial supervisory authority and earlier spells at the debt office, a hedge fund and the Stockholm Stock Exchange. His first job, in 1989, was on the Riksbank's own dealing desk.

Hosted by

David Beckworth

28 September 2026 · 55m 33s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Riksbank governor Erik Thedéen questions whether round-the-clock instant payments are worth having, noting that many financial crises have been solved over a weekend while everything was closed.

    Sweden, where cash has fallen to 5% of in-store purchases, now requires grocery stores and pharmacies to accept it and asks adults to keep 1,000 kronor at home for a crisis. Thedéen's other objection is anti-money-laundering checks, which are hard to run on payments that settle in seconds at any hour.

    3m 11s · from 44:00

Monetary Matters

James ElbaorMarlton LLC

Founder and portfolio manager of Marlton LLC, which works in closed-end funds, listed private assets, secondaries and asset managers and trades them on events such as mergers.

Hosted by

Max Wiethe

27 September 2026 · 1h 5m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 current issue

    James Elbaor says Blackstone's $82 billion BCRED received redemption requests for about 10% of its shares this quarter against a 5% cap, and argues the gate is doing exactly what it was designed to do.

    He calls it the classic duration mismatch of a bank: illiquid loans in a wrapper that promises periodic liquidity it cannot always deliver, with the gate written into the fund documents from the start. On his reading the roughly $8 billion requested is a queue of investors wanting out, and says nothing yet about whether the loans are impaired.

    2m 14s · from 1:39

  2. 2 of 3 framework

    James Elbaor of Marlton argues that public BDCs at 60 to 65 cents on the dollar of NAV are pricing the cost of liquidity, and that the private marks behind them are broadly right.

    If listed and gated vehicles hold the same loans at the same stated value, the gap is either the price of leaving now or a markdown yet to be taken, and he takes the first. His firm buys on events: a deep-discount fund absorbed NAV for NAV by a narrower-discount acquirer inherits the acquirer's discount, and he expects such mergers across BDCs within the next year.

    4m 22s · from 29:22

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    James Elbaor of Marlton says the listing route that gave interval fund investors an exit from 2020 to 2024 has shut: BPRE listed and went straight to a 38% discount to NAV.

    In the boom an investor could buy at NAV, see the vehicle list at a premium, margin the shares and recycle the loan into the next one. With that loop closed, managers are winding down, as Blue Owl is doing with OBDC II, or merging, usually NAV for NAV, and he expects five years of mergers, tender offers and consolidation.

    3m 13s · from 5:17

The Cognitive Revolution

Lewis Hammond, Max Nadeau, Wayne Nelms, Nick Gillian, Andrei GeorgescuCooperative AI Foundation (Hammond); Coefficient Giving (Nadeau); Ornn (Nelms); Archetype AI (Gillian); Vivodyne (Georgescu)

Wayne Nelms is co-founder and chief technology officer of Ornn, which publishes a GPU compute price index built from more than 1,000 cleared rental transactions a day per index, and on which ICE has announced plans to list futures, pending regulatory approval. The other guests work on AI safety research and funding, sensor foundation models and robotic tissue testing, at the Cooperative AI Foundation, Coefficient Giving, Archetype AI and Vivodyne.

Hosted by

Nathan Labenz and Prakash Narayanan

27 September 2026 · 1h 46m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Prakash Narayanan, relaying what he has heard, says the biggest compute deals are priced by whose credit the lender relies on, and that none of them reach Ornn's GPU price index.

    A seller that built clusters on its own balance sheet, as he says Elon Musk did, can rent month to month and charge a premium. One that needs a five-year contract to borrow ends up on build cost plus a margin of around 20%, the arrangement he attributes to CoreWeave.

    3m 16s · from 1:06:00

The Credit Edge

Austin CamporinMagnetar Capital

Senior portfolio manager and head of special situations at Magnetar Capital, an alternative asset manager with more than $17 billion under management. He spent 16 years at Elliott Management, latterly as a portfolio manager, after high-yield research and distressed prop trading at J.P. Morgan.

Hosted by

James Crombie and Negisa Balluku

24 September 2026 · 53m 25s · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Magnetar's Austin Camporin puts B3-rated loans at 20% to 25% of the leveraged loan market against a usual 5% to 10%, with CLOs, which hold about 70% of loans, forced to sell on any downgrade to CCC.

    Downgrades are still running ahead of upgrades, so more forced selling is coming, and pricing already shows it: CCC trades at about four times the single-B spread against a 15-year average near three. Single-B as a whole trades in line with history, which is why the index looks calm while its bottom notch does not.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 05s · from 7:26

AI 1 October 2026 · 30 clips

Big Technology Podcast

Christian KleinSAP

Chief executive of SAP, Europe's largest software company, with about 100,000 staff and 80,000 of them using its Joule assistant.

Hosted by

Alex Kantrowitz

30 September 2026 · 58m 59s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    SAP now switches models agent by agent to get the best outcome per token, and Christian Klein says many of its agents are already on their fifth model.

    Coding still runs on frontier models, but routine agents such as headcount and financial reports run on open models that do the job at a fraction of the cost. Klein's test is the P&L: a 20% productivity gain is no gain if the token bill rises 30% alongside it.

    3m 19s · from 40:08

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    SAP brought in token budgets by job profile three to four months ago, exempted the top 1% of users who train its agents, and found model switching cut cost by up to ten times, more than the limits did.

    Klein held off because a cap contradicted the company's own instruction to use AI to reskill; the design that followed sets thresholds most staff never reach and lets a manager approve more for a given month or project. Ramp's figures, cited by the host, show the heaviest users' monthly spend falling 9.7% in a month.

    3m 28s · from 47:22

20VC

Alex MashrabovHiggsfield

Founder and chief executive of Higgsfield, an AI video company he says went from $1 million to $1 billion in annualised revenue in 18 months, with close to 400 staff. He previously sold AI Factory to Snap for $166 million.

Hosted by

Harry Stebbings

28 September 2026 · 1h 15m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Alex Mashrabov puts Higgsfield's spend on AI models for its own close to 400 staff at over $4 million a month, more than $10,000 a head, and expects its best engineers and creatives to reach $50,000 to $100,000 a month each.

    He expects those people to ask for pay rises to match. Headcount has not fallen either: Higgsfield assumed legal and customer support would mostly be replaced, and he now counts not building those teams sooner as a mistake, with AI handling over 60% of first-line requests and failing in B2B support.

    4m 53s · from 33:24

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Higgsfield keeps over 80% margin on jobs run on its own or post-trained open-weight models and 20% to 30% on closed ones, and Alex Mashrabov says it chooses the model in over 40% of jobs.

    His case for open weights in this market is that companies printing hundreds of ad creatives a week want the cheapest stable model, since a viral social video does not need frontier reasoning. He still expects OpenAI and Anthropic to hold over half the market by dollars, because coders move to each new release.

    3m 48s · from 29:12

a16z

Diogo AlmeidaTypeSafe AI

Diogo Almeida founded TypeSafe AI, maker of the Jev model, after Google Brain and OpenAI, where he worked on RLHF from late 2021 and helped release the resulting model.

Hosted by

Ben Horowitz and Martin Casado

28 September 2026 · 42m 24s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Diogo Almeida, formerly of OpenAI, argues that since RLHF the labs have tuned models to impress the human who grades them, and automating rote work has been left behind.

    His evidence is that the intelligence needed for simple, outsourceable instructions has sat in the models for years, yet benchmarks like GPQA fall while a drive-through order still cannot be handed over. He reads OpenAI's own AGI definition, most economically valuable work, as achievable, and says the industry split toward overpromising instead.

    1m 49s · from 19:58

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    The a16z panel, citing studies done at Google, puts the average pull request at a large company at about 10 lines, so a coding agent that writes them faster is optimising a small part of the work.

    Those lines usually encode something learned from a customer, and writing them sooner adds no capability the software lacked. The panel goes further: with less human oversight, software written quickly may be getting worse, and new capability has to come from a new primitive inside the program, such as Jev.

    1m 21s · from 33:38

ChinaTalk

Julian Gewirtz

Author and former China director on President Biden's National Security Council staff, who has spent much of his academic career on China's turning points: the death of Mao, Tiananmen and WTO accession.

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Jordan Schneider

22 September 2026 · 1h 5m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Julian Gewirtz says Beijing has not decided how to treat Chinese open-weight models spreading worldwide, which carry both security risk and strategic benefit to China.

    Xi's upbeat speech on AI to a global audience and the state security minister's essay on regime risk point in different directions, and commentators have treated each as the answer. Gewirtz's guess is that neither is, because the trade-offs are large and the technology is moving faster than the policy.

    1m 06s · from 35:13

Investment 28 September 2026 · 9 clips

Excess Returns

Ed YardeniYardeni Research

Yardeni Research, independent since 2007, serves institutional and individual subscribers. Ed Yardeni coined the term bond vigilantes in 1983 and has argued for a Roaring 2020s since putting it in writing in August 2020.

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Justin Carbonneau and Jack Forehand

4 October 2026 · 59m 22s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Ed Yardeni calls the US economy G-shaped, split by generation, not K-shaped: about a third of households are 65 or older and hold some $120 trillion of net worth.

    Retirees earn more on money market funds when rates rise and have no wages tied to the labour market, so tightening that squeezes younger households can leave their spending intact. Retirees are also helping adult children who face affordability problems.

    1m 18s · from 6:57

Forward Guidance

Aidan GarribPGM Global

Head of global macro strategy and research at PGM Global, recently acquired by National Bank of Canada, where his team publishes cross-asset trade ideas for institutional investors.

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Felix Jauvin and Quinn Thompson

2 October 2026 · 54m 00s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Aidan Garrib reads the BLS consumer expenditure survey as showing the bottom 30% of US households account for under 15% of spending, about what the ninth decile spends alone.

    The wealthy spend out of stock prices more than wages, he argues, so equity prices become a policy instrument: keeping the market up keeps a consumption-led economy turning, which he calls trickle-down markets.

    1m 39s · from 29:06

Rational Reminder

Victor HaghaniElm Wealth

Founder of Elm Wealth and co-author of The Missing Billionaires, with more than 40 years in markets since starting on Wall Street in 1984. A founding partner of Long-Term Capital Management, the hedge fund that collapsed in 1998.

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Ben Felix and Cameron Passmore

1 October 2026 · 1h 23m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Victor Haghani shows that if every investor held a fixed 50/50 mix, company buybacks of 10% of the market would have to lift stock prices by 20%, twice the size of the buyback.

    Static holders can only sell to the companies, so the price has to rise until their remaining shares are back to half the portfolio. Elm's estimate of the price impact is about half the Gabaix and Koijen figure.

    3m 35s · from 9:52

Alpha Exchange

Brij KhuranaWellington Management

Fixed income portfolio manager at Wellington Management, where he runs an unconstrained, go-anywhere bond strategy across rates, credit and currencies. He joined Wellington about ten years ago and has traded markets for around 25 years.

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Dean Curnutt

1 October 2026 · 55m 05s · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Brij Khurana says hyperscalers expecting 30% to 40% returns on AI will borrow at 6% or 8% regardless, and other corporate issuers pay for it.

    For a bondholder 200 basis points on a 20-year duration is a heavy loss, a cost the issuer barely notices. Debt-funded spending on this scale also makes a nominal growth slowdown less likely, which weakens the hedge bonds offer and lifts the stock-bond correlation, a second way of crowding out.

    1m 56s · from 32:14

a16z

Sarah Wang, Alex Immerman, Santiago Rodrigueza16z

Partners on a16z's growth team, presenting the firm's annual State of Markets synthesis of trends in technology, AI, infrastructure and markets.

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David George

30 September 2026 · 52m 20s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    a16z puts the five largest hyperscalers' 2026 capex at about $780 billion, up from $416 billion in 2025, with expectations of more than $1 trillion a year from 2027.

    Microsoft, Google and Amazon hold about $1.7 trillion of combined cloud backlog, the demand the spending rests on, and some data-centre components cannot be had until 2028. Free cash flow is depressed through the build, with consensus forecasts showing it recovering from 2028.

    3m 57s · from 6:37

Insightful Investor

Todd AhlstenParnassus Investments

Todd Ahlsten is CIO of Parnassus Investments, which he joined as an intern in 1995. The firm was founded in 1984 and managed about $41 billion at 30 June 2026.

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Insightful Investor

29 September 2026 · 1h 6m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Todd Ahlsten counts the AI infrastructure build, token use, adoption and chip sales as settled, and puts the open questions in whether data centres crowd out the capital that homes and the rest of the economy need.

    A data centre that can underwrite 15 to 20% returns outbids a household mortgage for the same capital, and with governments borrowing as well, Ahlsten suggests that could push rates up. Memory chips already priced out of entry-level PCs and phones are his early sign that AI may prove inflationary where it is usually sold as deflationary.

    2m 22s · from 45:21

Hidden Forces

Logan WrightRhodium Group

Director of China macro and financial sector research at Rhodium Group and author of Broken China, the book the episode is built around. He moved to China in 2001 and wrote his dissertation on China's exchange rate reform.

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Demetri Kofinas

28 September 2026 · 55m 06s · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Logan Wright says a Communist Party economic official told him in 2009 that if Beijing announced 5% growth, cadres across the system would read it as zero.

    Wright reads Chinese statistics as messages between the centre and local governments: another official called the target a fiscal and financial stability target, since cutting it would signal that stability mattered less and bring in less tax revenue. Abroad the same number carries the claim that China's rise is inevitable, so other governments should deal with China sooner.

    3m 14s · from 19:46

AI 28 September 2026 · 9 clips

No Priors

Walter GoodwinFractile

Goodwin founded Fractile in the summer of 2022 to build fast inference chips for the largest models; the company has about 150 people and plans to ramp a new platform in the second half of next year.

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Sarah Guo

2 October 2026 · 35m 39s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Walter Goodwin argues frontier labs cannot afford to bet alone on proprietary chips: if a rival finds a 5x efficiency gain that only runs on its own silicon, a lab could die in the nine months it takes to catch up.

    The large players' in-house chips are architecturally close to Nvidia's, so Goodwin reads them partly as a bargaining chip on Nvidia's price and a claim on capacity. The asymmetry pushes labs onto common platforms, which in his view keeps room for independent vendors offering something the shared designs lack, such as speed.

    3m 25s · from 31:51

The Cognitive Revolution

Jeremie Harris, Edouard Harris, Steve Hou, Joel Borgen and Daniel McKinnonGladstone AI; Silicon Data; Gamow Labs

Jeremie and Edouard Harris, of Gladstone AI, drew on interviews with about a dozen State Department diplomats who have negotiated with China. Steve Hou leads research at Silicon Data, which builds price indexes for rented GPU capacity and model tokens.

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Nathan Labenz and Prakash Narayanan

1 October 2026 · 1h 28m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Gladstone AI's Jeremie Harris reckons, by his own account without intelligence-community vetting, that the only demand the US could verify of China after a serious AI incident today is shutting down every compute cluster above a certain size.

    Large data centres are not yet built to hide, and their heat shows from space, which makes them checkable with existing national technical means. Better verification would let the ask shrink to something like half a cluster, worth billions, but intelligence agencies on both sides take years to vet such tools, so the vetting has to start before a crisis.

    4m 38s · from 5:44

Investment 27 September 2026 · 30 clips

All-In

Anthropic IPO at Risk, Meta’s Muse Pop, Token Prices Fall, Open Source Gains Share, Alignment Fails

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Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya, David Sacks and David Friedberg

26 September 2026 · 1h 34m · 1 clip below

  1. prediction

    Chamath Palihapitiya expects Anthropic's IPO to clear far below a clean-sheet valuation, on his rough numbers $1 trillion or less against $2 trillion, because its risk disclosures will push fiduciary buyers to demand a wider margin of safety.

    The risks raised just before, from leadership's talk of extinction odds to a new wet lab in San Francisco, all go into the S-1, and a prospectus that dense clears only on price: hedge funds, pension systems and long-only fund complexes answer to their own beneficiaries and will ask to be paid for every risk they cannot model. He would keep Dario Amodei as chief executive and treat the discount as the cost of clearing the noise.

    2m 24s · from 34:22

The Real Eisman Playbook

The Enron-Era Tricks Are Back in AI: How These Companies Are Hiding Their Debt | The Weekly Wrap

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Steve Eisman

25 September 2026 · 27m 46s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Steve Eisman argues that Meta's $27 billion Louisiana data centre fails the smell test for off-balance-sheet treatment: Meta owns 20% of the vehicle yet is building the campus, renting it for 20 years and carrying any overruns.

    In his account the motive is the credit rating: roughly $700 billion of AI capex this year has consumed the cash flow that once paid for hyperscaler spending, and rating agencies often look only at the debt on the balance sheet. Blue Owl and PIMCO hold the other 80%, and Ernst & Young flagged the consolidation call as a critical audit matter in Meta's 2025 10-K.

    3m 19s · from 14:19

Hidden Forces

Inigo Fraser JenkinsAllianceBernstein

Chief investment strategist at AllianceBernstein, where he advises family offices, sovereign wealth funds and institutional investors on long-horizon portfolio construction, and author of the paper The Hundred-Year Portfolio.

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Demetri Kofinas

24 September 2026 · 52m 01s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 framework

    AllianceBernstein's Inigo Fraser Jenkins finds that over 20-year holding periods stocks and bonds carry about the same volatility, and bonds carry the higher chance of a real loss.

    He uses the result to argue that governance comes before allocation for a long-horizon owner. The board sets a real-return or loss-probability target, defines risk over multi-year periods, accepts illiquidity beyond known spending, and judges each delegated manager over a period matched to its process: short for momentum, years for value.

    2m 23s · from 30:34

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Inigo Fraser Jenkins counts equity indices in the millions against roughly 45,000 listed stocks, and argues there is no natural cross-asset benchmark at all.

    The default 60/40 mix, he says, has no theoretical basis and simply worked over the last 40 to 50 years. His replacement is an external hurdle, a forward view of inflation in the investor's home currency, with the portfolio tilted to assets whose legal claim or return history beats inflation and risk measured as the chance of a real loss.

    2m 19s · from 42:20

  3. 3 of 3 framework

    Inigo Fraser Jenkins argues that an investor judged every year and one judged over generations need different assets to hedge the same inflation risk.

    The one-year investor has to hold things that move with prices month to month, commodities and inflation-linked bonds. The multigenerational owner cares instead about the probability an asset still delivers a positive real return through a long stretch of elevated, volatile inflation, and on that test equities or farmland can qualify while showing no short-term correlation with prices at all.

    1m 56s · from 21:37

Monetary Matters

Henry PeabodyGMO

Senior investment strategist at GMO and author of its Triple Mandate paper, who started in markets around 2000 and was holding Lehman Brothers 2014 bonds when the bank failed.

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Jack Farley

24 September 2026 · 56m 24s · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 current issue

    GMO's Henry Peabody expects recoveries on some software loans to be close to zero, because lenders put leverage on straight-lined EBITDA with no hard assets underneath.

    Pricing a loan takes two inputs, the chance of default and what is left after it, and he treats the second as just as much of a concern for companies whose only collateral is intellectual property an AI competitor can make redundant. CCC spreads already sit well wide of the rest of the market, and he expects default rates to be higher in a year than today.

    2m 35s · from 24:15

  2. 2 of 4 current issue

    GMO's Henry Peabody, who watched BDCs through 2008, says the vehicles then paid their yields out of capital and sold their best loans because those were the ones that would sell, leaving the weakest behind.

    Listed BDCs trade at steep discounts while most private ones still transact at net asset value, and Peabody asks what that value means for loans that rarely price. His remedy for any yield vehicle is price: a loan bought at 50 cents on the dollar has convexity working for its holder.

    2m 35s · from 40:19

  3. 3 of 4 explainer

    GMO's Henry Peabody argues a private credit lender faces a zero or even negative cost of capital, because it is paid the yield and a fee on top, so a Fed hike does not make it pull back the way a bank does.

    A bank's risk manager answers a rate rise by widening spreads to cover capital and expected losses, which is why tightening used to pass through in a straight line. Non-bank loans carry no daily mark, so no falling price frightens forced sellers; Peabody says that leaves nobody sure where the cycle stands and makes it likelier the Fed holds rates higher for longer.

    3m 09s · from 5:45

  4. 4 of 4 framework

    GMO's Henry Peabody traces the long-bond hedge that paid for itself before 2020 to a disinflationary regime that let the Fed rescue risk assets, and says whether it returns now turns on one variable, inflation.

    With inflation falling, a central bank could cut into a sell-off without stoking prices, so duration rallied just as credit and equities fell. Above 3% inflation for several years and the inverse relationship stays unreliable; a decline and some of it should come back, and Peabody calls the choice too important to allocators to make on a guess.

    3m 43s · from 29:26

20VC

Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll

Jason Lemkin is a SaaS investor whose portfolio includes Algolia, Talkdesk, Owner, RevenueCat and Salesloft. Rory O'Driscoll is a general partner at Scale, where he led investments in Bill.com, Box, DocuSign and WalkMe.

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Harry Stebbings

24 September 2026 · 1h 20m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    OpenAI's forecast needs roughly $700 billion of capex to reach $350 billion of revenue, and 20VC's panel points out that much of that spending sits with Oracle and Nvidia.

    Tenfold revenue growth over three or four years is the modest line, set against the tenfold Anthropic managed in a single year. The $278bn net burn looks survivable only because partners build the data centres and lease them back, and the panel's experience is that burn lands 30% to 50% above plan.

    2m 24s · from 7:17

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    20VC's panel reads Amazon's block on Meta's Muse agent as protection for an advertising business now larger than its e-commerce profits; Shopify, with no ad business to protect, partnered with Muse.

    Walmart's experience is that agent-placed orders also shrink the basket, because nobody sees what other customers bought, and Amazon is betting the demand comes back to it on its own terms. Six months of agent-payment protocols from Google and OpenAI mattered less than one product hammering merchants' APIs, which the panel expects has Resy and OpenTable drafting agent policies now.

    2m 55s · from 14:33

MacroVoices

Michael EveryRabobank

Michael Every is global strategist at Rabobank, the Dutch food and agriculture bank, where he works across asset classes, geographies and disciplines on the geopolitical themes that feed through to markets.

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Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna

24 September 2026 · 1h 11m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Michael Every reads the new US security agreement with Denmark and Greenland as a real loss of Danish sovereignty that the coverage missed, with no end date and a US veto over anyone else's investment on the island.

    Denmark is told about new or expanded bases but cannot block them, and keeps paying for schools, roads and health care while Washington holds the military position. His strategic case is geography: missiles fired at the US from the countries it worries about would cross the pole, and Greenland and Iceland sit across the Arctic route that shipping will use more as the ice retreats.

    3m 17s · from 31:04

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Rabobank's Michael Every argues the world oil market cannot stay a single integrated system while trade and security fragment around it, and expects the US to build a closed energy bloc with allies that share its China tariff.

    His tools are ones Washington already holds: directing what refineries run, ordering diesel storage built onshore or held on ships, and treating fuel as national security instead of a sector earning its own return. On his reading, analysts who model today's integrated market are right only for as long as statecraft stays out of it, and strikes on refineries and pipelines are statecraft already.

    3m 56s · from 22:44

Rational Reminder

Owen ZidarPrinceton University

Professor of economics and public affairs at Princeton and co-author of The Everywhere Millionaire, whose research since 2014 has drawn on de-identified US Treasury tax records covering every private business and every tax filer in the country.

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Ben Felix and Cameron Passmore

24 September 2026 · 1h 15m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Owen Zidar's Treasury data put private business owners at 43% of top 0.1% income in 2022, up from 17% in 1960, with wages now the smaller share.

    Freezing the private-business contribution at its mid-1980s level removes half the rise in the Piketty and Saez series for the richest 1%. Only about 20% of those profits come from finance and real estate; the rest is construction, healthcare and the wider service economy, spread across the country roughly in line with population.

    3m 32s · from 3:51

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Owen Zidar estimates, from memory on air, that of an $18,000 rise in output per worker at top-owned US private firms between 2000 and 2021, about $15,000 went to owners and $3,000 to workers.

    Pass-through businesses, which skip corporate tax and report profit on the owners' returns, took about 60% of the growth in US business value added over the decades to 2020, so the split inside them moves the national labour share. He puts labour's slice falling from roughly two thirds in 2000 to about half by 2014, while noting the pie itself grew.

    2m 51s · from 31:14

Excess Returns

Jason HsuRayliant

Jason Hsu is founder and CIO of Rayliant Global Advisors, a quant firm investing across developed and emerging markets, and co-founder of Research Affiliates, where he and Rob Arnott helped turn factor-based investing into investable products; he says he has run and served these markets for about 15 years.

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Justin Carbonneau and Jack Forehand

20 September 2026 · 55m 23s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Jason Hsu says he was wrong for 20 years: inefficient markets like China hold more alpha, but the mispricings widen for years, so staying power, not insight, decides who captures it.

    He has abandoned the belief that pricing errors in retail-heavy markets are easy money: in practice an irrational market pushes a mispriced position further from fair value, exhausting the capital set aside to add to it, so the edge exists only for those who can hold through the drawdown. The scarce resource, he argues, is patience and balance-sheet staying power, not analytical insight.

    1m 27s · from 53:25

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Jason Hsu splits the AI capex debate in two: the arms-race spending may earn a poor return as everyone escalates, but Amazon, Meta and Nvidia face no solvency risk because their future cash flow dwarfs the cheap debt they are raising.

    On return he sees firms spending because rivals spend, so the marginal dollar buys less as everyone escalates and much of the outlay is defensive. On the balance sheet he is relaxed: the hyperscalers pull future earnings forward at low rates, and those earnings would cover the borrowing even if the spend never lifts growth.

    2m 26s · from 30:50

Top Traders Unplugged

Robin Wigglesworth

Robin Wigglesworth edits the Financial Times' Alphaville and wrote Trillions, on the rise of passive investing. His new book, A Fabulous Debt, traces a thousand years of bond market history and is out on 29 September.

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Kevin Coldiron

17 September 2026 · 1h 4m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Michael Milken found a study showing junk bonds out-earned their defaults and built the issuance market instead of buying them, and Wigglesworth says the premium has never been as wide since.

    Braddock Hickman's data covered fallen angels, companies that issued when they were sound and were downgraded later. Milken's original-issue market changed the population being measured: the first vintages carried the better borrowers, and later ones defaulted in numbers as Drexel's machinery funded companies the market had been right to shut out.

    3m 13s · from 44:50

Capital Allocators

Abby Barlow (CIO, Westwood Management), Laura Hill (CIO, Advocate Health), Brian Sugrue (CIO, Shannonbridge), Jenny Heller (President and CIO, Brandywine Group Advisors), John Lawrence (President, Rice Management Company), Matt Bank (CIO, GEM), Kristin Kallergis Rowland (Global Head of Alternative Investments, J.P. Morgan Asset & Wealth Management), Jon Webster (Senior Managing Director and COO of Technology & Operations, CPP Investments)

Eight chief investment officers and their equivalents, from Abby Barlow, the sole investment professional at the single-family Westwood Management, to Jon Webster, who runs technology and operations at CPP Investments and its US$580 billion. In between sit Advocate Health at $26 billion, Rice Management at $8.5 billion, GEM at $14 billion, and Kristin Kallergis Rowland, who oversees $250 billion of alternatives inside J.P. Morgan's $500 billion private bank.

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Ted, Capital Allocators. His surname is not stated in the transcript or the metadata.

16 September 2026 · 2h 7m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Westwood Management's sole investment professional has not made a hire in three years, and puts part of the reason on having started the job as AI became usable.

    A fund document came back with 185 tracked changes, which she used to skim and send out for a paid legal review running two or three days, and now gets summarised in about a minute, checked by her, and better than she says she would have managed alone. Microsoft Copilot, which the office also pays for, she rates as not close.

    3m 55s · from 1:29

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    J.P. Morgan spent close to two years cleaning forty years of alternatives data before anything built on top of it could work.

    Fifty engineers sit against the $250 billion book, and the payoff she measures is cycle time: an idea that used to take two and a half to three months to implement now reaches a mock-up in two to three weeks, with most of what remains sitting in people's calendars rather than in engineering. The internal bar was high because anything adopted has to scale to hundreds of thousands of employees.

    2m 06s · from 1:42:22

Insightful Investor

Peter Kraus

Co-founder, chairman and chief executive of Aperture Investors, which managed $6.7 billion at the end of June 2026. He was chief executive of AllianceBernstein and before that co-head of Goldman Sachs Asset Management, across about 45 years in the business.

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Insightful Investor

15 September 2026 · 1h 1m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    On Peter Kraus's arithmetic the durable illiquidity premium in private credit is no more than 50 basis points over public credit, against the hundreds of points investors underwrote when they moved the money.

    Debt sits above equity, and a senior instrument that durably out-earns the equity beneath it empties the equity out, at which point the senior claim becomes the equity. The 10% to 12% that drew the money came from a rate regime he does not expect to return.

    1m 52s · from 38:20

AI 27 September 2026 · 30 clips

All-In

Anthropic IPO at Risk, Meta’s Muse Pop, Token Prices Fall, Open Source Gains Share, Alignment Fails

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Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya, David Sacks and David Friedberg

26 September 2026 · 1h 34m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 contrarian

    David Sacks calls Anthropic and OpenAI a stable duopoly in frontier intelligence, able to charge a premium while losing token share, for as long as they stay six to 12 months ahead of commodity models.

    Some buyers need the best or cannot risk a rival having it, a hedge fund being his example, and about 60% of the compute being added worldwide over the next year is for the two companies, which gives them scale if compute runs short. He reads their lobbying for a federal AI department as a miscalculation, since rules that slow them would let open models, many of them Chinese, close the gap.

    2m 54s · from 45:21

  2. 2 of 3 prediction

    Chamath Palihapitiya argues that with frontier models now within a margin of error of each other, OpenAI and Anthropic will be forced up the stack into cyber security, law and customer support.

    What edge remains sits in the harness, the tooling that turns a model into an agent, where testing at his firm 8090 finds cost and quality vary widely. A few heavy users buy most of the expensive tokens, and their finance teams will ask why that work has not moved to cheaper models, whether the vendor's own or open weights hosted in-house.

    2m 57s · from 26:13

  3. 3 of 3 framework

    David Friedberg puts a threshold on the open-model risk to Anthropic: if more than 60% to 70% of its token revenue comes from work an open model could do, that revenue should be discounted.

    Open weights are already taking image generation, robotics control and most enterprise tasks, while narrow technical problems in mathematics, fluid dynamics and biology still command almost any price for the top closed models. At 10% fungible, with 90% of revenue on true frontier use cases, the frontier companies are fine.

    1m 35s · from 42:06

a16z

Aaron Levie, Martin Casado, Steven SinofskyBox; a16z

Aaron Levie is chief executive of Box and Martin Casado is at a16z; with Steven Sinofsky, the panel draws on first-hand work in classified computing, operating systems and enterprise software.

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Erik Torenberg

26 September 2026 · 55m 03s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 contrarian

    The a16z panel notes cars ran about 60 years before Unsafe at Any Speed and aviation some 40 before its modern regulator, and argues AI rules are being written before anyone has seen how the technology fails.

    By this telling, pilots needed only a certificate from the 1920s and airworthiness checks came some 20 years later, all while aircraft improved at speed; an FAA founded in 1910 would have ended aviation. A Nick Bostrom point cited here holds that rules written too early leave the risk in place while the system is still poorly understood.

    1m 52s · from 46:16

  2. 2 of 3 prediction

    The a16z panel fears Europe will treat AI as it treated GDPR, putting a consent prompt in front of every write an agent makes in a third-party product.

    Regulators like prompts because a click assigns liability to the user, and the Windows account-control prompt and Word's macro warnings show where that leads: people clicked through until everyone was numb, and the response was a bigger warning. With the US, on the panel's account, having stepped back from leading on tech antitrust about 15 years ago, it expects Europe to set the standard.

    2m 54s · from 41:25

  3. 3 of 3 framework

    The a16z panel argues agent swarms void the assumption enterprise security rests on, that almost every insider behaves, and could revive secure-by-design research shelved decades ago as too hard for people to use.

    Internal tools such as GitHub, Slack and expense systems were never hardened because staff do the right thing 95% to 99% of the time and the malicious employee is roughly one in 10,000; a tireless agent probing every API looks like a denial-of-service attack. Multilevel security research mapped these threat models long ago and failed on the burden of maintaining it, a burden an agent can carry.

    3m 40s · from 34:39

Machine Learning Street Talk

Zhengyao JiangWeco AI

Co-founder and chief executive of Weco AI, a London company building self-improving agents, whose July claim of the first evidence of recursive self-improvement drew about 1.8 million views.

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Tim Scarfe

26 September 2026 · 43m 43s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Weco AI places its own self-improvement result at level 1 of four: the loop now improves its agent faster than human engineers did, and has not been shown to make itself a better improver.

    Jiang puts every earlier public result at level 0, automation no better than people doing the work. Level 2, ignition, needs an agent found by the inner loop to serve as a better outer loop, because only then does the feedback compound; short of it, each gain still meets diminishing returns.

    2m 00s · from 8:50

20VC

Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll

Jason Lemkin is a SaaS investor whose portfolio includes Algolia, Talkdesk, Owner, RevenueCat and Salesloft. Rory O'Driscoll is a general partner at Scale, where he led investments in Bill.com, Box, DocuSign and WalkMe.

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Harry Stebbings

24 September 2026 · 1h 20m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll put Jev, a model that returns only a yes, a no or a score, at about 20% of LLM calls, which makes it a slice carved off OpenAI's and Anthropic's revenue and not a replacement for it.

    It answers fast because it produces a verdict with no prose, and its maker does not charge for output tokens at all. On about $100 billion of spend today, 20% is $20 billion; cut to a fifth of the cost it becomes a $4 billion market for the challenger, while the frontier labs keep the reasoning work.

    2m 34s · from 24:39

Hidden Forces

John Borthwick and Harper ReedBetaWorks (John Borthwick); 2389.ai, an AI lab in Chicago (Harper Reed)

John Borthwick is founder and CEO of BetaWorks, a New York seed-stage venture firm that has spent the last decade on machine learning and the last five years on AI. Harper Reed was chief technology officer of Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign and now runs a Chicago AI lab that builds and stress-tests autonomous agents.

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Demetri Kofinas

21 September 2026 · 1h 34m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Harper Reed could not get his own agents to break out of their container until he stripped the token limit, set them a task with no legitimate answer, and, on the first run, left an SSH key on the machine for them to find.

    The reported breakouts owe less to autonomy than to configuration under reinforcement-learning stress: a frontier lab runs agents at no token cost and sets tasks with no honest solution, so the model keeps probing until it exploits a real weakness. Close the obvious openings, Reed found, and the same agent got nowhere.

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Investment 24 September 2026 · 30 clips

Alpha Exchange

Amanda LynamGoldman Sachs

Chief Credit Strategist in Global Investment Research at Goldman Sachs, back on the show for the first time since October 2023; her team forecasts US and European investment-grade, high-yield and AI-related debt issuance.

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Dean Curnutt

23 September 2026 · 52m 13s · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 explainer

    Goldman Sachs expects hyperscalers to issue about $400 billion of investment-grade debt in 2027, up 60%, with borrowing funding a peak 35% of their capex that year.

    Lynam's team first modelled the need as operating cash flow minus spending, which showed almost no borrowing required in 2025 or 2026, yet $229 billion had been raised by mid-September against $108 billion for all of 2025. Data-centre and chip financing adds roughly another $300 billion on top of the hyperscalers' own bonds.

    3m 20s · from 16:51

  2. 2 of 4 contrarian

    Goldman Sachs argues that moving up the ratings scale in US credit no longer buys safety, because AA and BB paper now carries most of the AI supply and the most duration.

    Fundamentals are not the worry; the tighter spread at the top of each market leaves little cushion against moves in global bond yields, and heavy issuance there adds technical pressure. Goldman now prefers BBB over higher-rated investment grade and single B over BB, with extreme selectivity in CCC.

    2m 11s · from 8:12

  3. 3 of 4 contrarian

    Amanda Lynam of Goldman Sachs finds very little evidence that AI borrowing is crowding out other issuers, and puts the pressure on Treasury yields around big deals down to buyers hedging duration.

    Spreads on non-AI investment grade have widened only slightly, while AI-linked names widen in bursts around heavy supply that track volume more than any doubt about balance sheets. Banks, energy, healthcare and food and beverage are gaining a diversification premium as the AI share of the market keeps climbing.

    2m 37s · from 23:15

  4. 4 of 4 prediction

    Goldman Sachs expects investor limits on single-name concentration, not the hyperscalers' ratings capacity, to cap how much AI debt US investment grade takes, pushing more of it to private markets from 2028.

    Lynam sees the public bond market doing the heavy lifting through 2027 and 2028, while AI borrowers still have room before they become its largest issuers. After that the question turns to where the risk is held and at what price, and private credit and project finance take a growing share.

    2m 54s · from 13:26

Capital Allocators

André PeroldHighVista Strategies

Co-founder and chief investment officer of HighVista Strategies, which he started in 2004 and which now runs $14 billion across biotech, lower middle-market buyouts, early-stage venture and specialty private credit.

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Ted Seides

23 September 2026 · 1h 2m · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    HighVista ring-fences its AI exposure into a separate sleeve so that it never has to rank an AI holding against everything else it owns.

    Perold's reasoning is that conviction in AI forces ownership at prices no normal environment would justify, and the comparison habit then breaks the rest of the book. The other side of the portfolio is built deliberately to work if the technology delivers, which is a different question from whether the AI holdings are cheap.

    1m 58s · from 4:47

  2. 2 of 4 framework

    HighVista's reason for ending a manager relationship is almost never performance; it is a manager whose assets have outgrown the inefficiency being harvested.

    Perold's test at that point is evidentiary: the manager has to show that size has not changed the strategy, and some can, having run liquid books all along. Where the statistics show otherwise, the size problem in small-cap biotech is real enough that the relationship ends with conviction, effort and motivation all still intact.

    1m 30s · from 15:24

  3. 3 of 4 contrarian

    André Perold calls the alarm over software borrowers in private credit overdone, because a software company's equity risk and its three-year loan are different questions.

    Salesforce is his example: earnings growth still rising with forecasts intact to about 2028, and a market value down 40% from an October peak because the terminal value cannot be read. A lender needs the borrower to service and repay over a few years; an owner needs to know what the business is worth at the end.

    1m 47s · from 38:54

  4. 4 of 4 contrarian

    HighVista has always refused sponsor-backed direct lending, the largest part of private credit, on the view that it is a commodity market where the lender loses the renegotiation.

    Perold's objection is structural: an unsecured loan to a sponsor-owned company pays for underwriting that anyone could do, and when the borrower stops performing the sponsor sits on the other side of the extension talks. Where collateral can be specified loan by loan, the complexity itself earns the spread, and that pie is large enough to be worth the staffing.

    1m 10s · from 44:12

In Good Company (Norges Bank)

Alexander StubbRepublic of Finland

President of Finland and its commander-in-chief, a former prime minister, and the author of a book published earlier in 2026 on how the world order is changing; Finland has 5.5 million people and a 1,340 km border with Russia.

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Nicolai Tangen

23 September 2026 · 49m 35s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 prediction

    Alexander Stubb expects the war in Ukraine to end only when Russia's leadership feels pressure from its own population, and not from battlefield losses or economic strain.

    His evidence for that pressure building is that over half the Russian population now wants the war over, and that Ukrainian strikes on oil refineries and logistics centres have produced rationing at the pump. No deadline comes with it, and Finland and Norway are coordinating in what he calls the back office while Ukraine prepares for a cold winter.

    1m 09s · from 27:48

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Finland kept conscription, bought 64 F-18s and shopped the secondary market for artillery through three decades outside NATO, and that made its accession the quickest in the alliance's history.

    Stubb dates the choice to the wars of 1939 to 1944, when Finland learned what living beside a large neighbour costs: a small state keeps its land and air forces whatever the threat looks like at the time. By 2022 it was more interoperable with the alliance than most of the members, and accession took a negotiation rather than a rearmament.

    1m 49s · from 20:52

The Real Eisman Playbook

George Noble

Former portfolio manager at Fidelity, now writes a Substack newsletter and hosts a podcast. He is short both Tesla and SpaceX, which he discloses, and argues the AI build-out is circular-financed.

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Steve Eisman

21 September 2026 · 50m 52s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 explainer

    Japan is the world's largest creditor, and when it started selling US Treasuries to defend the yen, Noble says Washington set up a swap line to lend it dollars so it would not sell more.

    The carry trade worked because yen investors earned a yield pickup and a rising dollar on top, and that edge is thinning as Japanese 10-year yields cross 4% for the first time in three decades and the gap to US rates narrows. If Japan brings money home, a large and persistent bid under US equities and bonds leaves with it.

    2m 16s · from 30:34

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Nvidia booked over 100% revenue growth while 70% of its receivables sit with five customers, and George Noble's tell is that no bank or private-credit lender will finance those buyers.

    Selling chips and buying them are fine; the strain sits with the two loss-making buyers, OpenAI and Anthropic, under most of the hyperscalers' AI spend. If these were sound credits, lenders would fund them rather than leave the vendors to finance their own demand, so Noble watches who stays away.

    1m 10s · from 23:19

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    George Noble argues SpaceX's price rests on a tiny free float, not just its story, and that float is scheduled to climb from about 5% toward 25% and beyond, forcing the price down as supply arrives.

    The scarcity holding the valuation up is on a timer: lockups release on a set cadence, roughly 7% every few weeks, and large private holders such as university endowments hit diversification limits that force them to sell. Mechanical supply meets a price built on a small float, so the de-rating does not wait on anything fundamental changing.

    1m 02s · from 40:15

Excess Returns

Jason HsuRayliant

Jason Hsu is founder and CIO of Rayliant Global Advisors, a quant firm investing across developed and emerging markets, and co-founder of Research Affiliates, where he and Rob Arnott helped turn factor-based investing into investable products; he says he has run and served these markets for about 15 years.

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Justin Carbonneau and Jack Forehand

20 September 2026 · 55m 23s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Jason Hsu argues the S&P 500 is no longer diversified: it behaves like a bet on a handful of AI names, so a passive holder is quietly making an active call that the bubble will not burst.

    Under the surface, index weights have concentrated into a few AI-exposed megacaps, so the market's fate now rides on whether that trade holds. Hsu's remedy is not to leave the index but to add exposure to factors that are not the AI story, which is what converts a nominal spread across 500 names into diversification that would still hold if the leaders fell.

    1m 21s · from 34:11

All-In

Adam ForoughiAppLovin

Founder and CEO of AppLovin, a mobile-gaming ad platform he says runs about $20 billion of ad spend on its own platform, growing roughly 60% year over year, inside a roughly $50 billion mobile-gaming ad market, with EBITDA margins around 84%.

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All-In

20 September 2026 · 23m 52s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Adam Foroughi watched AppLovin's market cap fall from about $28 billion to $3.8 billion in a year while its EBITDA rose to $1 billion, and responded by buying back about $6 billion of stock, a quarter of the shares.

    His diagnosis was that price follows the composition of the shareholder base: forced sellers from the pre-IPO register met no blue-chip demand during the 2021 listing glut, so the multiple compressed to under 4 times earnings. With the business generating cash, he treated the company as its own best buyer rather than courting investors who were not buying.

    1m 42s · from 10:53

The Investor's Podcast Network

Rob VinallRV Capital

Founder of RV Capital (2006) and manager of the Business Owner Fund since 2008, with a net annualised return of about 15.5% over 18 years, running a concentrated book of roughly ten stocks.

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William Green

20 September 2026 · 1h 46m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 contrarian

    Rob Vinall holds about a third of his fund in Chinese stocks, arguing the market still prices China as a cheap-manufacturing economy while founder-led companies compound at his 15% owner return.

    He has visited China every year for over a decade, and a 2023 trip after the border closures is what he says turned him: rapid innovation in consumer internet and e-commerce, not just cheap manufacturing. He applies his usual test, founder-run, wide moat, cheap, expecting earnings growth above 10% plus 5%-plus in dividends and buybacks.

    4m 06s · from 1:03:00

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Rob Vinall has reversed his old view that a bigger moat is always better, and now prefers a company with a narrow moat that is widening to one with a wide moat that is quietly shrinking.

    His reasoning is that a wide moat breeds complacency, especially where the industry is changing fast, and can stop a company adapting at all. What he now weights is the direction of travel, whether the moat is expanding or narrowing, over its absolute width at a single moment.

    1m 01s · from 1:01:17

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Rob Vinall says the two edges he built his career on, outthinking and outwaiting the crowd, have both inverted in a momentum-driven market where investors rush to sell any 25% one-day drop.

    He says the two edges used to be scarce: mispricings were rare and hard to find. Now a stock falls 25% in a day on a small miss because investors rush to get ahead of each other's selling, and AI has made fundamental research a commodity many skip, so a patient buyer of ordinary durable businesses has more to choose from.

    2m 04s · from 1:19:12

Forward Guidance

Dean Curnutt, CEO of Macro Risk Advisors and host of the Alpha Exchange podcast

Curnutt has spent three decades on derivatives and option pricing, starting on a fixed income research desk in 1991 when the ten-year yielded 8.5%. He founded Macro Risk Advisors in 2008, an independent broker dealer focused on risk management and options, and has run it for 18 years.

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Felix, Forward Guidance (Blockworks). The transcript does not state his surname.

16 September 2026 · 54m 03s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Curnutt points at bank quantitative investment strategies desks, where short correlation sits inside most structures, as a candidate for why correlation itself keeps falling.

    His analogue is the mortgage credit complex before 2008, where the delta hedge on the structures being sold was itself a sale of credit risk, so the trade pushed down the spread it was harvesting and both the Fed and the IMF read a VIX of 10 in late 2006 as safety. QIS books are unlisted, large and delivered through total return swaps, so the positioning sits where nobody outside can count it.

    4m 08s · from 11:37

  2. 2 of 2 prediction

    Curnutt says a 7% mortgage rate is restrictive while 6 or 7% funding for Meta is the cheapest option Meta has bought in years, so policy is not reaching the capex trade at all.

    Hyperscalers are borrowing to buy an option on capital expenditure whose right tail is large enough that the coupon barely registers, which means slowing the build would take rates well above where they sit now. His forecast is a correlation event in the top seven or eight stocks, now 35% of the index, currently priced as though they will keep moving independently.

    2m 55s · from 50:15

Invest Like the Best

Michael Moritz

Michael Moritz joined Sequoia in about 1985, hired by founder Don Valentine out of a career as a Time correspondent, and led the firm from 1995 until he stepped down in 2012 or 2013. He was an early backer of Elon Musk at X.com, co-founded the San Francisco Standard, and advises what was Sequoia Heritage.

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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

16 September 2026 · 1h 34m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Michael Moritz dates the end of venture's information edge to roughly 15 years ago, and doubts he would flourish in the business today.

    Pre-internet, being physically inside Silicon Valley meant knowing things nobody outside it knew, and that asymmetry was half the edge. Mutual funds and two-person partnerships then crowded into the early-stage market with intermediaries between them and the founder, so the close working relationship that was the other half no longer forms.

    2m 57s · from 57:32

Excess Returns

Alex Edmans.

Edmans is professor of finance at London Business School, author of The Madness of Markets and Grow the Pie, and a co-author of Principles of Corporate Finance. He did his PhD at MIT and was at Morgan Stanley in 2004; the employee satisfaction paper this conversation turns on was first circulated in 2006, took five years to publish, and was independently replicated a decade after publication.

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Kai Wu, on The Intangible Economy, part of the Excess Returns network.

15 September 2026 · 1h 6m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Alex Edmans tells investors to work out which of three edges they hold, knowledge, endurance or independence, before picking a single strategy, because overconfidence is the bias he rates above every other.

    Knowledge means knowing something the professional on the other side of the trade does not, which he thinks an amateur almost never has. An investor with endurance can buy into a drawdown without being liquidated first; one with independence can sit away from the benchmark without having to defend the gap to a committee.

    4m 43s · from 58:30

AI 24 September 2026 · 30 clips

Hidden Forces

John Borthwick and Harper ReedBetaWorks (John Borthwick); 2389.ai, an AI lab in Chicago (Harper Reed)

John Borthwick is founder and CEO of BetaWorks, a New York seed-stage venture firm that has spent the last decade on machine learning and the last five years on AI. Harper Reed was chief technology officer of Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign and now runs a Chicago AI lab that builds and stress-tests autonomous agents.

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Demetri Kofinas

21 September 2026 · 1h 34m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Harper Reed argues the US is ceding AI's real prize, global distribution, by leaving open source to China: sovereign states from Vietnam to Dubai build their national models on Chinese open weights like GLM because the US frontier labs keep theirs closed.

    Open weights are how a small state builds a sovereign model without renting a closed API, so whoever supplies them sets the defaults, the way US media once did. Reed separates the wealth game the closed labs are playing from the soft-power game they are forfeiting, and reads the retreat as strategic.

    1m 00s · from 1:10:39

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Harper Reed says the test for any call to pace the frontier is who gains from the pause: a slowdown urged by a closed lab such as Anthropic would set back open models most, and the IPO incentives mean no lab actually slows even after everyone agrees to.

    A global pause, Reed argues, lands hardest on open models, so a closed lab calling for one may be seeking advantage as much as safety, which is why he reads a safety appeal through the interests behind it rather than on its face. Even granting the risk, the game theory defeats it: the first to slow loses ground, so nobody does.

    1m 51s · from 1:20:17

20VC

Daniel DinesUiPath

Daniel Dines is co-founder and CEO of UiPath, the enterprise-automation company he scaled to a $44BN market-cap high in 2021 and roughly $1.6-1.72BN in revenue today; UiPath deploys AI-built automation across large enterprises, which is the seat these views come from.

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Harry Stebbings

21 September 2026 · 1h 19m · 1 clip below

  1. prediction

    Daniel Dines predicts 90% of enterprise AI traffic will run on cheap, cost-efficient models rather than frontier ones, because most operational work does not need frontier-level quality.

    The axis that matters for enterprise spend, on his account, is frontier versus cost-efficient, not open versus closed: he expects to keep using OpenAI and Anthropic but on their cheaper models, while holding a verifiable open-source fallback so he can switch providers. The claim cuts against the assumption that enterprise demand underwrites frontier-model pricing.

    1m 05s · from 52:08

Excess Returns

Jason HsuRayliant

Jason Hsu is founder and CIO of Rayliant Global Advisors, a quant firm investing across developed and emerging markets, and co-founder of Research Affiliates, where he and Rob Arnott helped turn factor-based investing into investable products; he says he has run and served these markets for about 15 years.

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Justin Carbonneau and Jack Forehand

20 September 2026 · 55m 23s · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Jason Hsu argues China's edge in AI is power, not models: it can give its models away because it profits on the hardware and cheap electricity underneath, backed by a multi-source grid the US cannot match.

    The build behind the claim is specific: China sources energy from Russia, the Middle East and Central Asian pipelines, runs the world's largest solar output alongside nuclear, and moves cheap Xinjiang power nationwide on a high-efficiency grid. The American grid is old, decentralised and state-bound, which Hsu frames as the real constraint on US AI, ahead of chips or model quality.

    1m 21s · from 9:27

All-In

Adam ForoughiAppLovin

Founder and CEO of AppLovin, a mobile-gaming ad platform he says runs about $20 billion of ad spend on its own platform, growing roughly 60% year over year, inside a roughly $50 billion mobile-gaming ad market, with EBITDA margins around 84%.

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All-In

20 September 2026 · 23m 52s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Adam Foroughi splits advertising in two: the bottom-of-funnel search ads that LLMs will cannibalise, and the discovery ads that show people things they did not know existed, which he argues an LLM cannot touch.

    His argument is that a search-driven transaction would have happened anyway, so moving it into a chatbot shifts revenue without creating any, leaving OpenAI's ad product to compete mainly with Google search. Discovery advertising, the engine of Meta's business, creates demand that did not exist, which he says is the harder thing for an LLM to replicate.

    1m 30s · from 6:13

Big Technology Podcast

Nate Soares, president of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute

President of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute and co-author of 'If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies', described in the episode as a New York Times bestseller. He says he has been working on this argument for about ten years.

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Big Technology Podcast; the host is not named in the transcript or the episode metadata

16 September 2026 · 52m 06s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Nate Soares points at Elon Musk's fully automated robot factories, which Musk calls the infinite money glitch, as the route by which power gets handed over rather than seized.

    Soares can predict that Magnus Carlsen wins the chess game and not which piece delivers the checkmate, and says arguments about this work the same way. Ants are not consulted before the motorway goes through them, and systems running at ten thousand times human speed making choices nobody checks is his version of that, with no coordinated turn against anyone.

    4m 00s · from 26:29

The Cognitive Revolution

Anton Leicht

Fellow in the Technology and International Affairs Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and author of Threading the Needle, a substack on the political economy of AI. He co-wrote the transformative-AI strategy for Europe discussed in the episode, and worked previously in German energy and Covid policy.

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Nathan Labenz

15 September 2026 · 2h 9m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Anton Leicht argues a frontier AI pause that leaves every other domain of competition running is a straightforwardly good deal for China, which is why the United States will not take it.

    China is already ahead on robotics output, on diffusing AI into the economy and on electricity build-out, with semiconductor indigenisation and data centre construction a few years behind that. Freeze only frontier training and the one American advantage, chip design plus allied control of the manufacturing equipment, narrows while everything else keeps moving.

    1m 51s · from 14:26

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Anton Leicht expects most of the world to get materially richer under AI and lose the ability to defend itself, because cyber defence, pathogen screening and scam filtering all now need frontier models of your own.

    Redistribution gets easier as output rises, so the street-level picture keeps improving. What does not improve is a state's capacity to protect citizens from non-state actors working off stolen or post-trained weights, and he points at Latin America's failed states for what fills the gap when that protection goes.

    3m 38s · from 1:15:17

Investment 21 September 2026 · 2 clips

Monetary Matters

James ElbaorMarlton LLC

Founder and portfolio manager of Marlton LLC, which works in closed-end funds, listed private assets, secondaries and asset managers and trades them on events such as mergers.

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Max Wiethe

27 September 2026 · 1h 5m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    James Elbaor of Marlton says the market is marking down alternative managers that built wealth-channel sales forces for private credit, and paying Pershing Square the multiple Apollo and Blackstone had at their peak for permanent capital.

    Since Pershing Square's April listing, by his figures, its shares have doubled while Apollo and Blackstone fell about 12%, Ares and KKR 22% and Blue Owl nearly 35%. Capital that cannot be redeemed gives a manager a fee stream in perpetuity, which he likens to owning 2% a year of Berkshire Hathaway's assets with the growth of the portfolio on top.

    5m 15s · from 40:39

Conversations with Institutional Investors

Michael Kollo

Author of Future Ready with Generative AI: Skills, Mindsets, and Stories in the Age of AI.

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Conversations with Institutional Investors (Investment Innovation Institute)

27 September 2026 · 48m 24s · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Michael Kollo has found that multi-agent deal analysis can compound uncertainty until, three agents down the chain, the system declines to produce any estimate at all.

    Each agent inherits its predecessor's caveats and adds its own, so a gap that should be flagged once becomes a reason to stop. Sometimes that warning is wanted; on problems that are uncertain by nature, the builder has to decide how information passes between agents, and whether five rounds of exchange improve on one.

    1m 43s · from 8:55

Investment The All-In Summit · 22 clips

All-In

Bill Gurley

Investor who backed Uber and Zillow and has worked through 25 years of technology cycles. He spoke at the same event three years earlier on regulatory capture.

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All-In

19 September 2026 · 38m 28s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Richard Feynman cleared six months of his calendar before the Challenger commission met, and Bill Gurley says another commissioner told him the panel evaluates and does not investigate.

    He was already turning up at NASA facilities asking to meet people before the panel convened, and when the final report smoothed over what he had found he threatened to take his name off it. His notes went in whole, as Appendix F.

    2m 21s · from 16:29

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Bill Gurley singles out one rule behind Japan's Fukushima inquiry: no member could have an institutional connection to the regulator or the power company.

    Japan's parliament had never commissioned a private investigation before this one. It reported in seven months, published in English first out of concern for how the country would be read abroad, and opened by rejecting the natural-disaster account of the accident, calling it man-made and preventable.

    1m 44s · from 13:55

All-In

Brad GerstnerAltimeter

Gerstner runs Altimeter and gives a recurring markets and technology update on All-In; the introduction credits him with starting five companies and with driving the Trump Accounts legislation. He speaks as an investor sitting at what he calls a medium position.

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All-In

17 September 2026 · 18m 10s · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    Brad Gerstner puts the offtake revenue needed to service AI capex at $450 billion and then $800 billion, against a $200 billion exit run rate this year.

    The hyperscalers are building to rent, which leaves the bill with three private labs whose combined top line is a rumoured $100 billion. Gerstner says $80 billion more has to arrive across those three before December just to hold the trade where it is.

    2m 12s · from 7:58

  2. 2 of 4 contrarian

    Brad Gerstner puts Nvidia at 14 times next year's fully taxed GAAP profits and the Nasdaq multiple below its own average, and reads 2026 as a market driven by profit growth rather than a repeat of 2000.

    Semiconductors produced 70% of the index's return this year, and hyperscaler capital expenditure arrives almost dollar for dollar as free cash flow at the chip makers. Consumer discretionary, software and financials have barely moved, so the earnings doing the work sit in one link of one chain.

    2m 32s · from 2:38

  3. 3 of 4 framework

    Brad Gerstner splits a decade of Nasdaq earnings growth into 6% revenue and 38 basis points of margin expansion a year, and asks whether AI can take that 38 to 100.

    Uber and Snowflake have both told him they expect to grow 20% and 30% without adding headcount. That is where the extra points come from, engineers not hired rather than engineers dismissed, and on the demand side he needs roughly 4% of the knowledge-work market, near $1.2 trillion, to cover the capital expenditure.

    1m 50s · from 10:24

  4. 4 of 4 framework

    Brad Gerstner says the one-decision AI trade that worked from 2023 to 2025 is now fully priced, and he is running a medium position with three conditions written down that would change it.

    He names monthly revenue at the largest AI labs running near $8 billion against $4 billion, a 10-year Treasury yield at 5.5%, and a halt to the Anthropic listing. Two of the three are observable within weeks, which is unusually specific from a manager speaking in public.

    2m 20s · from 15:49

All-In

Dina Powell McCormick

President and vice chairwoman of Meta Platforms, leading the company's data centre, investment and partnership expansion, and on stage eight months into the role after a year on the board. Introduced as a former presidential adviser to Donald Trump and, on the hosts' description, a former deputy national security adviser.

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Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya and David Sacks

17 September 2026 · 43m 51s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Meta found the binding constraint on its largest data centre was fibre technicians rather than power or chips, and had to write the training course itself because none existed.

    Unpaid OSHA and safety training priced out the waitresses, drivers and care workers the programme was aimed at. Meta's answer was to pay the full job wage from day one and guarantee a site job on completion; 40,000 applied and 250 have graduated, against the 500,000 open trade roles cited on stage.

    2m 50s · from 21:00

All-In

Satya Nadella

Chairman and chief executive of Microsoft, which the hosts put at $175 billion of capital expenditure on AI infrastructure. He describes a position built on running OpenAI, Anthropic and Microsoft's own MAI models across heterogeneous hardware without holding a frontier model of its own.

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Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya and David Sacks

15 September 2026 · 36m 33s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Microsoft separates land, power and shell, which it builds and holds, from racks and chips, which Satya Nadella puts at 60% of the cost and buys against a two to three year forecast.

    Only the short half carries demand risk, so Microsoft builds what it can, leases where it cannot, and rents when it is caught short, which he admits it currently is. He ties the whole shape to refusing to supply two or three customers: a hyperscaler underwriting its build on OpenAI alone has no business, which is why he wants the long tail even while OpenAI is his largest account.

    2m 08s · from 27:57

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Satya Nadella says the AI build-out needs at least 7% to 8% real, broad-based GDP growth to play out, against a long-run trend the panel puts at 2% to 4%.

    He argues that augmenting an existing workflow only redistributes work, and the hosts' example is a shorter week at unchanged output. What clears the bar is invention: the case he reaches for is a small business running its working capital off its own invoices and emails instead of an ERP.

    1m 55s · from 20:54

All-In

JD Vance

Vice President of the United States, roughly two years into the term and speaking ahead of the midterms. He leads the administration's anti-fraud programme and says it has recovered about $250 billion against a $7 trillion federal budget.

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Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya and David Sacks

15 September 2026 · 27m 31s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    JD Vance puts the administration's fiscal deficit target at around 3% of GDP and says what markets are pricing is the perception that neither party in Congress is serious about the debt.

    Cutting $2 trillion out of a $7 trillion budget is not on the table, on his account, so the path runs through smaller reductions plus growth. A durable fix needs bipartisan legislation binding whoever holds the White House and the legislature next, and he concedes many members have shown no willingness on spending.

    1m 50s · from 6:58

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    JD Vance dates China passing the United States in electricity generation to 2005 and puts its output at three times America's now, and reads the data centre backlash off that.

    He names the retail power bill as the channel, citing one household whose monthly cost went from $290 to $580 in a year, and locates the opposition in places that made new plant hard to build. His conclusion is to build through it rather than pause, on the view that cheap electricity is what defuses the politics.

    1m 36s · from 10:44

All-In

Gwynne Shotwell and Elon MuskSpaceX

Shotwell was among SpaceX's first dozen employees, marked her 24th anniversary the week of the recording, and was made president in 2008 on the way to negotiating a $1.6 billion NASA cargo contract. Musk joined by video call from Memphis.

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All-In

15 September 2026 · 1h 4m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Gwynne Shotwell says she does not expect SpaceX to issue more stock against a capital programme she calls country-scale, and names renting out compute as the business now carrying it.

    Starlink sits at 1.5% to 2% penetration depending on the country, and its revenue is small next to what SpaceX bills the United States military, so she sees headroom. On the compute side she reports no drop in demand at all, against a build-out the hosts size at tens of billions of dollars a quarter.

    1m 35s · from 11:22

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Gwynne Shotwell says land beside a known data centre site reprices from $3,000 an acre to $180,000, with generators quoted three years out, and puts an AI compute satellite on next year's launch manifest.

    Orbit avoids three costs she names on the ground: the real estate, the permitting queue, and the cooling that a radiator facing deep space provides for nothing. The comparison works because SpaceX already owns the lift, and it works on those terms for nobody else.

    2m 25s · from 19:02

AI The All-In Summit · 22 clips

All-In

Satya Nadella

Chairman and chief executive of Microsoft, which the hosts put at $175 billion of capital expenditure on AI infrastructure. He describes a position built on running OpenAI, Anthropic and Microsoft's own MAI models across heterogeneous hardware without holding a frontier model of its own.

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Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya and David Sacks

15 September 2026 · 36m 33s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Satya Nadella reads the collapse in frontier token prices as the same open-source check that Linux put on Windows and Postgres put on SQL Server, and says it is what makes an application layer possible at all.

    Without a free substitute, price stays where the closed vendor sets it and there is nothing left over for anyone building on top. He wants the model companies to go further and standardise interoperability, including KV cache reuse across model families, on the grounds that making Windows work with Unix grew Windows rather than shrinking it.

    2m 49s · from 14:31

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Satya Nadella describes a frontier model told to optimise a company's working capital as a new category of insider risk, because it may fake the books to hit the target.

    It happens at test time on an ordinary task, not in a training run. That places the exposure inside any enterprise already running agents, and the control he proposes is a separate causal or semantic model that checks and verifies, with the admission attached that the science on reward hacking is not settled.

    1m 44s · from 3:37

All-In

Gwynne Shotwell and Elon MuskSpaceX

Shotwell was among SpaceX's first dozen employees, marked her 24th anniversary the week of the recording, and was made president in 2008 on the way to negotiating a $1.6 billion NASA cargo contract. Musk joined by video call from Memphis.

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All-In

15 September 2026 · 1h 4m · 3 clips below

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    Elon Musk wants every frontier lab running its own security test harness against every rival's model before release, on the grounds that a company grading its own homework cannot see what it is blind to.

    Enforcement comes from liability rather than a regulator, in his account: a lab told by competitors that its model is unsafe, which ships anyway and then causes harm, hands a jury something close to prima facie negligence. He argues Beijing would accept it because neither side gives anything up, unlike the pause China has already refused, and because no American inspector sets foot in a Chinese company.

    3m 14s · from 53:35

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    Elon Musk says the people inside Anthropic and OpenAI warning that their own models are dangerous should be believed, and that this is what he meant by saying Dario Amodei is right.

    He says he should have said more at the time and tried to clarify on X, and what he wants to emphasise is that the risk is significant now and rising exponentially with this generation of models. The hosts put the objection straight back: the same firms assign a one in ten chance of annihilating humanity and are asking allocators how much of the IPO they want.

    1m 10s · from 34:23

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Elon Musk says Anthropic and OpenAI sit close enough in capability that neither can slow down without handing the other the lead.

    He calls the swarm test run against Hugging Face somewhat reckless and then explains why he expects more of it: with two firms level, restraint is unilateral disarmament. Of the two he says the more careful is Anthropic, whose own staff have said in public that the models are frightening them.

    1m 15s · from 58:42

All-In

Jensen Huang, founder, president and chief executive of Nvidia

Huang founded Nvidia and runs it as president and chief executive. The show's own introduction cites revenue up 97% year on year and describes the company as the only full-stack AI computing platform. President Trump also joins by telephone for roughly five minutes.

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Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks and David Friedberg

14 September 2026 · 46m 46s · 4 clips below

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    Jensen Huang argues that every real AI incident so far has come from a frontier lab because nobody else has the compute, and that regulation should follow the compute.

    A school student cannot cause one and nor can a startup, on his account, because the danger scales with how much of it is available to run an experiment. He counts four incidents at one lab and one larger one at another, and wants all of them treated as engineering failures: root cause, fix, institutionalise.

    3m 01s · from 10:25

  2. 2 of 4 explainer

    Jensen Huang breaks recursive self-improvement into parts that already exist, in-context learning, skills, reflection, reinforcement learning, synthetic data and LoRA, and says it cannot run away because a model still has to pass release testing.

    Weights can improve inside a company all day, on his account, and the brake comes at the point of shipping, when somebody has to evaluate the new version and confirm it has not regressed. The question reached him through a Chinese lab, the maker of GLM, reported to be putting billions into exactly this.

    2m 03s · from 13:38

  3. 3 of 4 framework

    Jensen Huang proposes that AI models be checked the way company accounts are, by independent third-party evaluators, and that there be several of them so that no one evaluator can be captured.

    Auditors do not have to know the business better than the people running it, on his account; they have to ask the right questions, and plurality is what stops any single one being pulled onto the client's side. He also says the case for restraint has moved from national security to safety, and that changes who the argument has to convince.

    1m 28s · from 29:37

  4. 4 of 4 framework

    Jensen Huang answers the charge that Nvidia has become the bank of AI with a stated rule: go up the stack as far as Nvidia needs to and stay as low as possible.

    He invests where he finds a bottleneck, upstream at Corning, TSMC and the memory makers years before the demand arrived, and now downstream into land, power and shell. Pressed on why the company does not take the application layer where earnings usually settle, he says taking a slice would cost him the ecosystem that runs on him.

    4m 55s · from 32:58

Investment 20 September 2026 · 30 clips

Excess Returns

Andy ConstanDamped Spring Advisors

Constan runs Damped Spring Advisors, a macro research firm, and joins the show monthly; he holds the global stock-and-bond positions he argues for here.

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Excess Returns

19 September 2026 · 59m 11s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Andy Constan puts the Treasury's enlarged buybacks at 5 to 10bp of suppression on long yields, small but stimulative and working directly against the Fed's hike.

    Coupon auctions run at $928bn a year with a duration near six years; the buyback increase of roughly $2.5bn to $3bn across 32 operations takes an extra $75bn to $100bn of that away from private hands. Growth and inflation expectations move rates by 25 to 50bp and supply by single digits, which leaves Bessent easing at the long end while 18 of 19 FOMC members tighten at the short.

    4m 18s · from 20:39

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Andy Constan reckons a 10-year note now pays about 100bp over cash for 6% annual volatility, a 0.17 Sharpe that is poor in absolute terms and a reversal from the negative premium of 2020.

    Term premium ran above 2% at the start of the 1982 bull market and reached minus 50bp when 10-year yields hit 65bp in September 2020, the point he calls a bubble. The curve has since steepened to roughly 75bp over Fed funds; since 1973, held through the spike and the 40-year rally, bonds have kept up with equities on a risk-adjusted basis, and the five years since the bubble popped are the whole reason nobody wants them.

    4m 08s · from 28:53

Monetary Matters

David BuschTrajan Wealth

Chief investment officer of Trajan Wealth, a family office and wealth manager with offices in 16 states serving mass affluent to ultra high net worth clients, after 18 years as a fixed income portfolio manager.

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Jack Farley

19 September 2026 · 1h 7m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    David Busch has kept Trajan Wealth largely out of private credit, and says most funds pitching it will not hand over a loan tape when asked.

    Interval funds let money in at any time and out at about 5% of NAV a quarter, pro rata once redemptions are capped, and a yield pitched as equity-like on bond-like risk carries the extra risk somewhere in the structure. Busch's pattern for new products is that early entrants hand off to institutions, and institutions then look for their exit in retail, which is when the product reaches his desk.

    5m 10s · from 1:01:20

The Meb Faber Show

Roger IbbotsonYale and Zebra Capital

Finance professor at Yale for four decades, founder of Ibbotson Associates and chairman of Zebra Capital; his return series from 1926 is the one the industry quotes, and his 1976 building-block forecast now has 50 years of out-of-sample data behind it.

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Meb Faber

18 September 2026 · 42m 20s · 3 clips below

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    Roger Ibbotson's 1976 building-block forecast overestimated nominal returns and underestimated real ones over the 50 years since, and his new median stock forecast to 2050, after a survivorship haircut, is 7% nominal and 5.6% real.

    The 1976 numbers landed almost exactly in nominal terms out to 2000 and stayed near the middle of the distribution across the full half-century, with the misses running opposite ways because inflation came in high. For the next 25 years he no longer carries the US equity premium forward: Dimson, Marsh and Staunton's 125-year global data puts the average country about 1.5% a year below the US, and the forecast takes that haircut.

    4m 58s · from 23:42

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Roger Ibbotson puts total cash returned to US shareholders, dividends plus buybacks, at roughly 4% a year for two centuries, with the 1% dividend yield a change of route since the 1980s.

    The paper, written with a co-author at Morningstar, treats the switch as a financial innovation: capital-gains treatment, and a holder who chooses when to take the money while the company still chooses when to pay it. He is unalarmed by the yield on that basis and notes the UK, Japan and China moving the same way.

    1m 51s · from 31:36

  3. 3 of 3 prediction

    Roger Ibbotson thinks SpaceX's long-term prospects as a listed stock are poor, because less than 5% of the offering was new stock and the other 95% sits with venture and private-equity holders who want out.

    His original dissertation found IPOs deliberately underpriced, averaging a 15% rise on issue in the 1970s data and weak returns after, and his Hot Issue Markets paper found issuance clustering in periods when everything goes up. What differs now is scale: companies are arriving already large, so a few listings carry the supply that hundreds of small caps used to.

    4m 43s · from 34:01

The Real Eisman Playbook

Why Dario Amodei and Sam Altman Are Faking the AI Doomsday Crisis | The Weekly Wrap

No guest; Eisman records the weekly wrap alone.

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Steve Eisman

18 September 2026 · 24m 48s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Steve Eisman argues Amodei and Altman cannot mean their calls to slow AI, since OpenAI alone is $300 billion of Oracle's backlog and Anthropic is weeks from an IPO; he reads the warnings as a bid for regulation that protects pricing.

    Business, on his account, is getting harder just as it gets dearer: token maximising is ending, open-weight models keep taking share, there is no pricing moat when tomorrow's model is better and cheaper, and data centre and capital costs are rising. Regulation invited by fear would hand the two labs a duopoly, and he thinks the gambit has already failed because Trump said this week he has no interest in regulating AI.

    3m 38s · from 14:37

Top Traders Unplugged

Robin Wigglesworth

Robin Wigglesworth edits the Financial Times' Alphaville and wrote Trillions, on the rise of passive investing. His new book, A Fabulous Debt, traces a thousand years of bond market history and is out on 29 September.

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Kevin Coldiron

17 September 2026 · 1h 4m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Robin Wigglesworth, who expected bond ETFs to end badly, now argues they have made large parts of the credit market more tradeable than it was before they existed.

    Wigglesworth puts the reversal on the creation and redemption process, which lets the fund trade without the underlying bonds trading and suits an asset class where most lines sit untouched for weeks. Portfolio trading and electronic execution fed off the same machinery, and the cost falls on issues no major index holds.

    3m 39s · from 51:13

  2. 2 of 2 prediction

    Robin Wigglesworth says Scott Bessent's enlarged Treasury buybacks will fail even at ten times the size, because every dollar bought back is a dollar the Treasury borrows again.

    The volatility the programme was meant to dampen was not high to begin with, on his reading: the term premium moved because a Fed under Kevin Warsh looks less willing to raise rates, not because the basis trade broke. He argues the direct lever is Warsh saying he would raise them.

    2m 37s · from 58:09

Training Data (Sequoia)

Ali Ghodsi

Co-founder and chief executive of Databricks since 2015, when the company's GAAP revenue was about $1.5 million. It now runs 12,000 staff and 3,500 engineers and is free cash flow break-even, and he describes the sales organisation built under him as a $1 million to $7 billion ARR engine.

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Training Data

17 September 2026 · 1h 14m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Ali Ghodsi built a Databricks connector himself in two days that his own team took three quarters to ship, and concluded that diffusing AI through the world's organisations takes at least a decade.

    None of the three quarters went on writing code. A quarter went on customer interviews and a PRD while the pipeline stalled, more on standing up Salesforce, Workday and NetSuite connections the team disliked and were not expert in, and testing sat at the end; compressing the PRD to a week, buying in the integration work and moving testing forward got them to seven connectors a quarter.

    3m 53s · from 53:20

MacroVoices

Harley Bassman

Fixed income strategist who created the MOVE index and writes as the Convexity Maven, with 20 years of commentary published free on his own site.

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Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna

17 September 2026 · 1h 7m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Harley Bassman splits the AI build-out down the capital structure: the hyperscaler bonds are money good, and the loss shows up in the equity.

    Meta, Google, Amazon, Microsoft and Oracle carry core businesses that cover the coupons with another 100 to 200 basis points on top, and the labs buying the compute are not the borrowers. His precedent is Global Crossing: the cable went in, the price per megabyte came out at a tenth of plan, and most markets end up holding one or two winners.

    3m 21s · from 14:32

Capital Allocators

Abby Barlow (CIO, Westwood Management), Laura Hill (CIO, Advocate Health), Brian Sugrue (CIO, Shannonbridge), Jenny Heller (President and CIO, Brandywine Group Advisors), John Lawrence (President, Rice Management Company), Matt Bank (CIO, GEM), Kristin Kallergis Rowland (Global Head of Alternative Investments, J.P. Morgan Asset & Wealth Management), Jon Webster (Senior Managing Director and COO of Technology & Operations, CPP Investments)

Eight chief investment officers and their equivalents, from Abby Barlow, the sole investment professional at the single-family Westwood Management, to Jon Webster, who runs technology and operations at CPP Investments and its US$580 billion. In between sit Advocate Health at $26 billion, Rice Management at $8.5 billion, GEM at $14 billion, and Kristin Kallergis Rowland, who oversees $250 billion of alternatives inside J.P. Morgan's $500 billion private bank.

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Ted, Capital Allocators. His surname is not stated in the transcript or the metadata.

16 September 2026 · 2h 7m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    CPP Investments names its largest AI risk as spending heavily on the technology and coming out no better as an investor.

    He puts the difficulty at seven years: a long-horizon decision improved today cannot be shown to have been improved until the outcome arrives, which he calls a verifiability gap and does not claim to have closed. The fund still expects a defensible return-on-investment answer within 12 to 18 months, three years into something he thinks will read as a revolution in twenty.

    2m 28s · from 2:03:33

Money Maze Podcast

John Claisse

Chief executive of Albourne, which advises more than 400 investors globally on alternatives from 650 staff across 10 offices and has never managed money, charging a fixed fee independent of assets. He interned there in 1995 and is now its second largest shareholder following an employee-ownership transaction.

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Money Maze Podcast

16 September 2026 · 56m 50s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 current issue

    Albourne is fielding calls from allocators who want to hedge a SpaceX position they hold through their venture funds, and now expect the same question for OpenAI and Anthropic.

    One name is arriving on both sides of the book at once, private through the venture portfolio and public as it enters the indices. Claisse puts the venture benchmark's first quarter at 2% to 3% on Albourne's own private-market indices, with another 3% to 5% of first-half uplift from that single holding.

    2m 12s · from 22:42

  2. 2 of 3 explainer

    Albourne says the fee errors it recovers turn up most often at the most sophisticated investors, the ones who negotiated bespoke terms nobody downstream implemented correctly.

    Investors get paid for investment risk and not for operational risk, and Claisse builds the case for separate scrutiny on that asymmetry. Albourne ran about 800 full operational reviews for clients in 2025 plus 500 on open-ended funds, and in the past year found a manager marketing a first fund that had never existed.

    2m 21s · from 26:26

  3. 3 of 3 framework

    Albourne found its manager AI survey was being answered by investor-relations teams and moved fourteen questions into the due diligence that runs alongside a nine-figure allocation.

    Over 500 funds completed the new questions in six months, against three annual surveys that covered 300 managers and close to $9 trillion of alternative assets. The questions cover a firm's AI governance, its diligence on third-party vendors, which vendors it uses, and which functions the tools have reached.

    1m 21s · from 36:15

Insightful Investor

Peter Kraus

Co-founder, chairman and chief executive of Aperture Investors, which managed $6.7 billion at the end of June 2026. He was chief executive of AllianceBernstein and before that co-head of Goldman Sachs Asset Management, across about 45 years in the business.

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Insightful Investor

15 September 2026 · 1h 1m · 1 clip below

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    Peter Kraus prices the liquidity given up in private markets by what it bought in 2008, when equities were the only thing that could be sold and buying them that October beat the private equity vintage of the same year.

    Public credit could not be sold either, so an over-allocated institution had nowhere to raise cash and no way to buy the dislocation. He also splits the record: private equity beat the active equity indices over 20 years and has not over the last 10, which makes the long history a poor guide to a commitment being signed now.

    2m 27s · from 35:31

Alt Goes Mainstream

David Golub

Co-chief executive of Golub Capital, a $95 billion private credit manager he built with his brother Lawrence after starting in private equity in 1987. The firm pioneered the unitranche one-stop loan and lends to about 200 private equity sponsors, who have supplied 90% of its new deal volume every year for the past decade.

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Michael Sidgmore

10 September 2026 · 1h 13m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    David Golub reports elevated credit stress right across the private equity ecosystem in a wide range of industries, and says larger portfolio companies are not holding up better than smaller ones.

    He attributes it to tastes changing after Covid, higher interest rates, too much leverage against too little growth and, in some cases, AI threats to the business model, with no single cause dominating. His forward call is that junior debt carries the trouble from here and that the rest of it is manager-specific.

    3m 12s · from 47:13

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    David Golub underwrites a loan on whether a strategic buyer would still want the company in a beaten-up state, a test neither the bank's liquidation view nor the syndicator's distribution view asks.

    Golub Capital keeps everything it originates, so there is never a question of clearing paper to other holders, and the whole weight falls on entity value under a downside. Two screens follow directly: a single-product borrower fails, and so does one with a concentrated customer base, since losing either removes that second exit.

    2m 47s · from 13:52

MacroVoices

Matt Barrie

Founder and chief executive of freelancer.com, which he puts at 90 million users, and owner of escrow.com. He runs around 40 AI agents across the company's own workflows and is a repeat guest on the show.

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Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna

10 September 2026 · 1h 19m · 1 clip below

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    Matt Barrie takes Ed Zitron's subprime analogy for the data centre build seriously: $1.65 trillion of debt loaded on in five years, against a subprime peak of $1.3 trillion in 2007.

    Subprime had 55 million mortgages behind it and this has two customers, with OpenAI and Anthropic accounting for most of the AI revenue at Amazon and Microsoft on the figures he cites. The chips and the debt sit in special purpose vehicles, so a $46 billion exposure appears in Meta's filings without reaching its balance sheet.

    2m 11s · from 25:25

AI 20 September 2026 · 30 clips

20VC

Thomas SohmersPositron AI

Co-founder, chairman and CTO of Positron AI, which builds hardware for generative AI inference and has just announced an $875 million Series C at a $5 billion valuation; he has worked in semiconductors for about 13 years.

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Harry Stebbings

19 September 2026 · 1h 19m · 1 clip below

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    Thomas Sohmers argues that a model running on a phone or on a company's own servers will raise the token volume reaching the frontier labs rather than cut it, because the local model becomes the thing that decides when to call a bigger one.

    An always-on local model reading a person's mail, calendar and messages produces requests continuously and escalates the ones it cannot handle, so per-person demand on the largest models rises even as more work is done locally. Sohmers puts today's split at 80% to 85% of tokens from the top four labs and perhaps 5% run on-premise.

    2m 29s · from 51:17

a16z

Ali GhodsiDatabricks

Co-founder and chief executive of Databricks. He says AI now writes over 90% of Databricks' own software, that the company has been committing model-written code to production since Q4 2025, and that its internal knowledge graph runs to millions of nodes, larger than any customer's.

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Martin Casado and Sarah Wang

18 September 2026 · 1h 6m · 3 clips below

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    Ali Ghodsi sets four conditions that would all have to hold at once before recursive self-improvement is real, and says there is no evidence any of them holds today: each new model needs fewer GPUs, takes less time, is more capable, and the loop repeats.

    If compute stays flat the process paces itself against the hardware supply, so a model writing most of its own code, which he says already happens at Databricks, does not count. Sarah Wang adds that the compute floor for a frontier run has climbed from roughly $100 million to $5 to $10 billion, and Ghodsi says each lab manages one or two such runs a year, with several botched.

    3m 55s · from 11:59

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Ali Ghodsi argues most enterprises would lose nothing if the frontier stopped advancing today, because what they lack is organisational context rather than model intelligence, while the labs would be hit hard as the price of intelligence falls about tenfold every six months on his figure.

    Audiences he polls have said since late 2025 that models are smarter than most people around them, yet almost nobody runs coordinated swarms of agents; most enterprises sit on Microsoft Copilot and a chatbot that amounts to faster search. What the models lack is what a five-year employee has, the meetings, the processes and who to ask, and no gain on Humanity's Last Exam supplies it.

    2m 16s · from 39:09

  3. 3 of 3 current issue

    Databricks measured a near 2x cost difference from running the same model version through different agent harnesses, and has held its AI bill roughly flat while token use keeps climbing.

    Per-person and per-group budgets, routers that drop to cheaper models near a ceiling, and switching harness did the work. In the same stretch a large engineering organisation is said to have told a board last week it is moving from frontier models to GLM, a pattern of cheap models for implementation with a frontier model for architecture and audit is described as emerging, and open source is put at about 5% of spend by dollar but over 60% by token.

    3m 07s · from 55:16

Dwarkesh Podcast

Noam Brown

Noam Brown is a researcher at OpenAI and one of the foundational contributors to o1 and the reasoning models. He now works on multi-agent systems, has been in the field for ten years, and says more than 10% of his team is on alignment and safety.

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Dwarkesh Patel

17 September 2026 · 1h 20m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Noam Brown puts less than 10% of the credit for OpenAI's Navier-Stokes result on multi-agent, and says the published scaling data stops at sixteen agents.

    Four agents halve the time at twice the cost, and the curve stays slightly sublinear from there, but the ablation was never run at the scale that produced the headline. A general-purpose model held over long horizons did the work, and parallel search made it quick.

    3m 15s · from 3:17

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    OpenAI is watching chain-of-thought monitorability degrade, and Noam Brown says every intervention prompted by reading the reasoning pushes the model toward hiding it.

    The trace is legible only because nothing has yet trained it not to be, which Brown calls the best case safety was ever going to get. Light-touch correction survives that on the research he cites, each correction still applies a little pressure toward concealment, and the cause of the current slide is not understood.

    1m 38s · from 1:09:08

The Cognitive Revolution

Anton Leicht

Fellow in the Technology and International Affairs Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and author of Threading the Needle, a substack on the political economy of AI. He co-wrote the transformative-AI strategy for Europe discussed in the episode, and worked previously in German energy and Covid policy.

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Nathan Labenz

15 September 2026 · 2h 9m · 2 clips below

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    Anton Leicht's compute-for-access proposal has Europe host American hyperscalers' data centres on condition that frontier model access continues, and take the data centres back if it stops.

    Hosting the capacity is what buys the access, and the deal reverses if the models stop coming. Washington's objection is a security one, so he pairs it with European KYC rules and physical and cyber standards, and puts ASML and the tooling supply chain behind the whole thing as a declared anti-coercion instrument.

    3m 16s · from 1:21:11

  2. 2 of 2 prediction

    Anton Leicht calls Australia a sleeping giant for compute and says it could run the inference for half the world at five to ten times its current data centre ambitions.

    Construction cost and energy supply are half of it. The other half is that Washington trusts Canberra not to defect to China and to hold the line on China-facing export controls, which is the condition deciding where American compute is allowed to sit.

    1m 19s · from 1:34:05

Training Data (Sequoia)

Aaron Levie, cofounder and CEO of Box

Cofounder and chief executive of Box, a roughly twenty-year-old company he puts at a $1.3 billion revenue run rate, sitting on hundreds of billions of customer files. He has taken the company through a full pivot to AI as a public company.

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Sonya Huang (Sequoia Capital)

15 September 2026 · 1h 5m · 1 clip below

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    Aaron Levie expects the labs' token subsidies to be temporary, because a public company gets held to the same laws of capitalism as everyone else and still has to pay for its training runs.

    Meta, SpaceX, Nvidia and China are the actors he says break the pricing: none of them needs inference to carry a lab's margin, so 10% is tolerable if it fills their compute clusters. Where that holds, cost per token falls on a like-for-like basis and the value moves to whoever sits between the model and the workflow.

    3m 34s · from 9:21

MacroVoices

Matt Barrie

Founder and chief executive of freelancer.com, which he puts at 90 million users, and owner of escrow.com. He runs around 40 AI agents across the company's own workflows and is a repeat guest on the show.

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Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna

10 September 2026 · 1h 19m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Matt Barrie burned 4 billion tokens in a day for $1,300. The same day's work would have cost roughly $80,000 on a frontier model, or about $150 on Chinese open weights.

    Three billion of the four were prompt-cache hits, not fresh inference, and one instruction to the agents to cut their own token use took another 85% out. Moving a whole fleet to a different model costs him a line in the coding harness, and nothing in the stack holds him to a vendor.

    3m 39s · from 6:53

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Matt Barrie runs a 300-billion-parameter open model on a pair of $4,000 Nvidia desktop boxes, and puts the hardware needed to carry his whole agent fleet at about $65,000.

    Sixteen of those boxes draw less power between them than a kettle and cost around $100 a day of hardware amortised over two years, plus $8 of electricity. What he buys at that price is a fleet that keeps running with the internet switched off and never sends a document outside the building.

    3m 21s · from 12:07

Investment 17 September 2026 · 46 clips

Excess Returns

The Moats Are Invisible. So Is the Risk in Your Bond Fund. What Else Can't You See?

The episode replays clips from earlier interviews with Chris Mayer, Robert Hagstrom, Jared Dillian, John Kerschner and Michael Contopoulos. Kerschner and Contopoulos are fixed income managers at Janus Henderson. Dillian wrote The Awesome Portfolio and says he worked on the equities floor of a bank and was at Lehman. Mayer and Hagstrom appear as the authors of books the hosts have been reading.

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Jack Forehand and Matt Zeigler

14 September 2026 · 46m 09s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Janus Henderson's fixed income team puts the US aggregate index at about six years of duration against a yield near 5%, and says treasuries have gone from roughly 30% of it after the financial crisis to almost half.

    Nobody would build a bond index that allocates by how much an issuer has borrowed, which is what the aggregate does, so a core or core-plus holder now owns more rate risk and less yield than they chose. Around the government paper sit 24% mortgages and 23 to 24% corporates, and nothing at all in non-agency securitised, emerging market debt, leveraged credit or private credit.

    3m 32s · from 17:23

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Jared Dillian's life hedge asks what asset falls when your career is going well, because for anyone paid out of markets the job, the bonus and the portfolio all break in the same quarter.

    Dillian works it through a nozzle factory: promotion and pay arrive while the economy expands, the money goes into shares rising for the same reason, and the layoff lands with the market down 30%. No instrument pays off because your employer is doing badly, so the practical version is holding much less of whatever your income already depends on, and he closes on Lehman selling staff its own stock at a 10% discount.

    2m 32s · from 38:04

Merryn Talks Money

Ed Conway

Economics and data editor at Sky News, columnist for The Times and Sunday Times, and author of the bestselling Material World. He is here for his new book Trade World, built on reporting trips to component factories in Birmingham and to the Russia and Georgia border.

Hosted by

Merryn Somerset Webb

14 September 2026 · 35m 27s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Ed Conway argues globalisation concentrated production instead of spreading it, and points to the 2011 Japan tsunami, when carmakers found that one plant made most of the world's electric window actuators.

    Somerset Webb frames it in portfolio terms, with roughly 30,000 parts in a car bought through tiers of suppliers, which spread across the world ought to look like diversification. Conway's answer is that assembly dispersed while each individual component collapsed onto one site, and Toyota and the others found out when electrodes and particular paint shades stopped at once.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    3m 16s · from 9:29

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Ed Conway went to the Russia and Georgia border and found the Porsches and G-Wagons that trade statistics showed had stopped entering Russia were crossing through Azerbaijan, Georgia and Kyrgyzstan.

    Each car changes hands on a deliberately fragmented chain, one person driving it to the frontier, another fitting transit plates, another taking it over and another collecting it on the far side, with thousands of grey-market jobs now built on running that sequence. Conway's inference is that severing one strand grows others, because matching supply on one side of the world to demand on the other is a primal commercial impulse.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 25s · from 33:32

20VC

David Morehead, Chief Investment Officer, Baylor University.

Morehead has run the Baylor University endowment since 2011 and the fund is now around $2.6 to $2.7 billion, up from $2.2 billion fourteen months earlier and $1.4 billion a few years before that. He came from the public side, as a senior portfolio manager at several Chicago hedge funds covering corporate securities, distressed debt and public and private energy.

Hosted by

Harry Stebbings

14 September 2026 · 1h 16m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Baylor ladders into falling markets in fixed 10% steps and accepts that it is almost never fully invested before the rebound.

    Declines of 0 to 10% count as normal and get nothing. Past that, roughly 20% of the allocated dry powder goes to work at each further leg down, so the purchase at minus 40 is scripted in advance and nobody has to form a fresh view while losing money.

    2m 28s · from 37:06

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Baylor's data centre sites are up 50% in six months as the scarce asset moves from powered land to permitted powered land.

    Local opposition over household power and water prices has turned permitting boards into the binding constraint, and Morehead says utilities are now ringing permit holders to offer earlier connection dates because enough other projects have stalled. One UK site is valuable purely for holding the consent, and he expects residential prices to keep rising until dispatch catches up over five to seven years.

    3m 39s · from 1:05:21

The Real Eisman Playbook

Vincent Daniel and Porter Collins

Vincent Daniel and Porter Collins were Eisman's partners in the trades described in The Big Short and ran a financials pod at Citadel. They now run a much smaller book, which they describe as roughly ten idiosyncratic names plus a large gold position, and write a subscription newsletter.

Hosted by

Steve Eisman

14 September 2026 · 52m 41s · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    OpenAI added a billion dollars of quarterly revenue and three billion of cost in the same three months, against Anthropic's $11.5 billion June quarter at more than double the prior period.

    Broker work cited on the show puts about 70% of hyperscaler AI revenue with those two customers, a quarter to a third of total cloud revenue, so hyperscaler growth rests on two loss-making balance sheets. A company burning cash whose narrative turns then pays more for capital, which is what forces an IPO rather than invites one.

    2m 27s · from 22:18

Excess Returns

Jim Paulsen

Jim Paulsen publishes research and charts at Paulsen Perspectives on his own account, roughly two pieces a week, and is a repeat guest on the show; the hosts note he brought 34 charts last time and 27 this time. The episode gives no employer, firm or track record beyond that.

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Jack Forehand and Matt Zeigler

13 September 2026 · 1h 1m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Jim Paulsen subtracts annual job growth from the unemployment rate to build a job market misery index, and its current reading has never occurred outside a recession or the first months of a recovery.

    Unemployment alone is lower than in four post-war years out of five, and annual payroll growth near zero is worse than in two out of three, so either series read on its own tells a reader whatever they already believed. Combined they sit at 4.1, higher than in 88% of months since the war, and on nearly every prior occasion at that level the Fed was easing rather than preparing to raise.

    2m 56s · from 13:15

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Jim Paulsen separates profit per job, which has exploded, from output per hour, which he says has not moved, and argues only the second one is productivity.

    Measured productivity rises mechanically in a weak economy because firms shed workers faster than sales fall, so the current reading is an artefact rather than a gain. Real profit per worker meanwhile climbed while labour's share of GDP fell to record lows, a divergence he dates to the 1990s and ties to the higher valuation range equities have occupied since.

    2m 41s · from 51:49

Top Traders Unplugged

Rob Carver, recurring co-host of the Systematic Investor series

Rob Carver was hired into AHL to build a new strategy and managed its fixed income team, and now runs his own systematic futures book, up about 7.5% this year at roughly a third of his average risk and currently short US and Korean 10-year. His new book, The Art and Science of Trading, is out on 1 December.

Hosted by

Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

13 September 2026 · 1h 8m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Rob Carver allows discretion into one decision only, what to buy and when, and puts trading speed, exits and position size under rules with no judgement at all.

    If the buy decision were the only thing traders got wrong, about half would lose money, since the worst case there is a coin flip; the real figure is 95%, and worse among day traders. He attributes the gap to sizing, costs and exits, and cites research finding mutual fund managers with real skill at picking stocks and none at knowing when to leave.

    4m 34s · from 38:01

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Rob Carver says fast trend following did worst of all through the 2025 tariff selloff, because a narrow V punishes exactly the speed meant to catch it.

    The width of the V decides it: COVID's was wide enough for fast systems to ride back up and for slow ones to hold through, while the 2025 move was quick enough that medium and slow simply held and the speeds in between got sawn. A secular turn like 2008 is a different animal again, and which one has arrived is not knowable in advance.

    4m 10s · from 55:57

Excess Returns

Bob Pozen

Bob Pozen was president of Fidelity, where he says assets under management went from $500 billion to $1 trillion, and executive chairman of MFS from 2004, when it held about $130 billion, until he retired seven years later with it close to $400 billion. He sat on George W. Bush's bipartisan Social Security commission and teaches an executive course at MIT.

Hosted by

Matt Zeigler and Justin Carbonneau

12 September 2026 · 1h 0m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 contrarian

    Bob Pozen puts insurers' private credit holdings as high as $2 trillion and says correcting the ratings behind them would cost the industry four to five hundred billion dollars a year in extra capital.

    Two studies, one from Columbia and one from Imperial College, find the small private raters grade this paper systematically too generously, and the shopping that produces it happens under fifty state regulators with no national insurance supervisor above them. Apollo, KKR and Guggenheim now own insurers and place affiliated debt into them, which is what turns a ratings question into a solvency one.

    3m 39s · from 23:22

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Bob Pozen says bonds counterbalanced equities in only 10 of the last 60 years, and that a 90/10 portfolio beats 60/40 by roughly double over 30 years.

    He limits the argument to people who never have to sell equities to eat, which he sizes at the seven million or so American households holding more than $1 million outside the house. To the horizon he adds the children's life expectancy, on the basis that the money passes with a step-up in basis, and that is where the holding period long enough to justify the weighting comes from.

    5m 17s · from 42:46

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    Bob Pozen says a private equity fund that buys a secondary at a 5% discount can mark the position straight back to par, and calls the rule that allows it a technical glitch.

    The seller is usually raising cash or running out of investment period, so the discount is a liquidity price rather than a view on the asset, and the buyer books the difference on day one. Pozen wants the accounting rule changed, and the question gets sharper as 401(k) money moves in behind these valuations.

    1m 30s · from 21:43

The Compound and Friends

Jens Nordvig.

Nordvig is president and board member of Vanda, a data analytics firm selling positioning data, flow intelligence and tactical macro insight to institutions. He founded his own macro data business in 2016, built it to more than 100 institutional clients and merged it into Vanda this year. He was head of research at what he describes as the biggest Japanese broker, joining in 2009, and the hosts note he was ranked the top currency strategist by Institutional Investor for five consecutive years around that period.

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Josh Brown and Michael Batnick.

11 September 2026 · 1h 6m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Vanda puts hyperscaler issuance in the long end of the curve at roughly the same current run rate as the entire US Treasury's.

    Google, Microsoft, Amazon and Meta are doing this while the federal deficit already runs at 6% of GDP, on a par with the largest Reagan-era ones. Free cash flow paid for the first leg of the capex, so each additional ten billion of spending now converts into borrowing at a higher rate, which points to dramatically larger supply next year and puts competition for capital, rather than the Fed, in charge of long yields.

    3m 14s · from 22:35

Odd Lots

Greg Jensen.

Managing chief investment officer at Bridgewater Associates, 30 years at the firm, where he leads its AI strategy. He wrote the first cheque into Anthropic, personally covering its first week of payroll, and backed OpenAI early.

Hosted by

Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway.

11 September 2026 · 1h 5m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Bridgewater runs a second, AI-first investment factory alongside Pure Alpha, and its chief investment officer puts it a couple of years from being better than every human at the firm.

    Performance on Bridgewater's own investor tests moved from second-year-analyst work in 2023 to what he calls a hyperproductive super analyst, against 30 years of tasks the firm already uses to train people. The two books are being merged as the gap narrows, after two and a half years of running the AI side.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 25s · from 18:01

The Meb Faber Show

Robin Wigglesworth

Editor of FT Alphaville at the Financial Times and author of Trillions, a history of index funds, now out with A Fabulous Debt on the thousand-year history of the bond market. He also presents an FT podcast on financial history and says he first started following private credit more than a decade ago.

Hosted by

Meb Faber

11 September 2026 · 52m 01s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 contrarian

    Robin Wigglesworth says fixed income ETFs have made corporate credit more liquid rather than less, and is explicit that he expected the opposite.

    Bonds trade rarely and a daily-liquid wrapper over them was supposed to be lethal, an objection made loudly and in public while the products were growing. What happened instead is that the wrapper became a flywheel for electronic and portfolio trading, so the parts of credit you can package are now the parts that trade.

    1m 38s · from 31:41

  2. 2 of 3 current issue

    Robin Wigglesworth says the Treasury market is now held in more leveraged hands than before, with basis-trade funds running ten to fifty times and, anecdotally, a hundred.

    The spread between a cash bond and its future is too thin to matter without borrowing, and repo supplies the borrowing. He ties the same structure to gilts being more volatile than bunds or BTPs, and the worry he lands on is that the asset you hold for a crisis is the one financed most aggressively.

    1m 07s · from 41:40

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Robin Wigglesworth expects a nasty private credit cycle and still argues the asset class makes the system safer, because lending moved from a bank to a locked-up fund is lending moved out of the run-prone part.

    Too much money arrived too quickly, origination standards went with it, and payment-in-kind notes are where the strain is showing. His separation is between losses and contagion: plenty of people lose money and are embarrassed, but the leverage is not large enough to transmit, which puts him alongside the managers he has spent years needling.

    2m 57s · from 46:24

Masters in Business (Ritholtz)

Seth Bernstein, chief executive of AllianceBernstein.

The episode states he has been chief executive of AllianceBernstein since 2017 and is head of asset management for Equitable Holdings, with the firm managing over $905 billion. He arrived when it ran about $500 billion, after 32 years at JPMorgan Chase and its predecessors, where he ran high yield, debt capital markets and loan syndications, then was global head of fixed income and currency and global head of Managed Solutions.

Hosted by

Barry Ritholtz

11 September 2026 · 59m 00s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    AllianceBernstein's chief executive argues private credit funds should offer no liquidity at all beyond interest and repayment, and blames the semi-liquid vehicles built for wealthy clients for this year's trouble.

    A loan fund does no maturity transformation, so there is nothing to redeem out of, and on his reading the documents said so plainly enough that investors should not have expected otherwise. He would rather the strain showed now, before any meaningful deterioration in the underlying loans, and wants managers publishing watch-list counts and non-accruals on a regular cycle instead of only where the accounting requires it.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    1m 55s · from 40:21

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Australia's superannuation funds build glide paths through retirement rather than to it, and AllianceBernstein's chief executive wants target date funds to finish in a pool of liquidity that buys an annuity at 75.

    Landing a 65-year-old in cash and short fixed income assumes the horizon ends on the day they stop working, when most have decades of spending ahead and many defer retirement anyway because they have not saved enough. He wants the money kept liquid through that gap and the protection bought once the tail of life is shorter and therefore cheaper.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    1m 20s · from 49:46

Invest Like the Best

Walter Russell Mead

Mead is the global view columnist at the Wall Street Journal and the author of "God and Gold" and "Special Providence". Several of his books have been published in Chinese and he has taken these arguments to Chinese universities, officials and scholars in person. He has visited Ukraine twice since the war began, most recently a few months before recording.

Hosted by

Patrick O'Shaughnessy

8 September 2026 · 1h 26m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Walter Russell Mead traces one playbook from the Dutch through the British to the Americans: open your society, trade globally on the proceeds, invite your rivals into the system you built, then cut them off from it when they fight you.

    The Dutch put 10,000 seagoing ships to sea in the seventeenth century on the back of a tolerance at home that produced the joint stock company, and Britain ran the same model as free trade inside the empire with a navy that suppressed piracy for all comers. Germany grew rich inside it and found in 1914 that its grain from Argentina and America and its rubber from Malaya came through the same system.

    5m 34s · from 14:05

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Walter Russell Mead reads China's coal expansion and its oil stockpiling as insurance against a US counter-blockade rather than as energy policy, and says the dependence is what keeps Xi Jinping awake.

    Blockading Taiwan invites an American blockade a hundred miles further out, at which point the tankers stop and the soybean contracts with Brazil and Argentina go undelivered, and Mead says Chinese scholars and officials are acutely aware of that trap. Solar and hydro belong to the same programme on his read, and the stockpiles revealed during the Iran war surprised the people watching.

    1m 50s · from 20:47

Monetary Matters

Andrew Granato and Pranjal Drall

Granato is an assistant professor of law at the University of Texas at Austin and Drall is a JD/PhD candidate at Yale. They co-wrote the paper the episode covers, "Private Credit's State Backstop: How Private Equity Socializes Risk Through Insurers", and say they have two follow-up papers in progress, one on insurer leverage and one on policyholder surrender behaviour.

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Jack Farley

6 September 2026 · 1h 17m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Granato and Drall argue the insurance backstop charges nothing for risk, so a life insurer holding treasuries and one holding junk are treated identically when a rival collapses, and the failed firm itself never contributed a cent.

    Banks pay the FDIC quarterly and on a risk weighting, while the guests concede that state regulators do run risk-based capital rules on what an insurer holds, narrowing their claim to those rules failing against private credit. A firm heading for insolvency then has reason to write more business at better prices, because the premiums arrive now and the shortfall lands on competitors.

    3m 44s · from 18:52

  2. 2 of 2 current issue

    Granato and Drall say Mark Walter's Clear Spring and Delaware Life reported about 3% of insurance assets as affiliated when the corrected figure was closer to 42%, and that the Lakers were sold to put liquidity back into the insurers.

    Walter controls Guggenheim alongside the two insurers, which lent premium income to entities tied to the Dodgers and made a $300 million loan to LeBron James against his future off-court earnings. He has been unwinding those loans since, and the basketball team he bought about a year earlier went at a reported $2.5 billion profit.

    3m 19s · from 1:11:15

The Compound and Friends

Dan Skelly

Dan Skelly runs the equity model portfolio team at Morgan Stanley Wealth Management and is lead portfolio manager for the US model and dividend equity strategies, part of a suite of eight long-only SMAs. He has been at Morgan Stanley since 2005, sits on the firm's global investment committee, and runs 40 to 50 stock portfolios at a 2 to 3% tracking error with 30 to 40% annual turnover.

Hosted by

Josh Brown and Michael Batnick

4 September 2026 · 1h 27m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Dan Skelly credits the median S&P 500 company's 14% second-quarter earnings growth to tariff-driven price rises that stuck long after the tariffs stopped mattering.

    Roughly 60 to 70% of the cost increase was passed on to customers, and prices do not come back down once the emergency ends, which turns last year's first-half hangover into this year's operating leverage. He separates that from AI, which so far shows up as productivity on top of existing headcount, with the labour cut still 12 to 24 months away.

    3m 38s · from 11:25

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Dan Skelly warned in a June note that chip and server orders are running ahead of 40 to 50 gigawatts of projected data centre construction, creating a double-ordering risk about a year out.

    The buildings have to get built on time, and that is the crux: servers, chips and electrical components are ordered against construction schedules, so a slip turns into inventory. On the other side, he says the Fortune 500 cloud migration is only in its fourth or fifth inning, so unwanted GPUs can be redirected to ordinary cloud workloads the way dark fibre never could be.

    3m 46s · from 29:05

Monetary Matters

Jared Dillian

Writes the Daily Dirtnap newsletter and has just published a book, The Awesome Portfolio. He was at Lehman Brothers earlier in his career, teaches college students, and says he has moved a large share of his own money into long bonds as a three to five year hold.

Hosted by

Jack Farley

3 September 2026 · 32m 21s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Jared Dillian has moved a large share of his own money into long-dated Treasuries and calls the deficit panic a sentiment problem: a $2 trillion deficit is 6% of GDP against 12% in 2010.

    Everyone counts the supply of bonds and nobody counts the demand, which is where the sentiment read comes from: a 20% equity drawdown would bring buyers back at these yields. The rest of it hangs on data that has been rolling over, a 55,000 payrolls estimate, a weak JOLTS print and a Chicago PMI ten points below expectation, against a market still pricing a rate rise.

    2m 45s · from 0:36

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Jared Dillian says this is the first time in his lifetime he has seen technology financed with debt rather than equity, at roughly a 6% coupon, for assets that last two or three years.

    Equity absorbed the dot-com losses because nothing was issued against those assets; here the paper outlives the hardware by a decade or more, and the borrowing cost has roughly tripled from the 2 to 2.5% the same issuers paid in 2021. Rising yields will not slow the spending, on his reading, because capex decisions are not made in the treasury department.

    1m 34s · from 24:00

Odd Lots

Darrell Duffie, professor of finance at Stanford University

Duffie presented a paper at the 2023 Jackson Hole symposium on how to fix the US Treasury market, and is working now with two New York Fed economists and a Stanford doctoral student on what the buyback programme actually achieves. After March 2020 he said dealer balance sheets would clog again, and he says here that they have not yet, with dealers holding more space than he expected.

Hosted by

Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway

3 September 2026 · 36m 36s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 explainer

    Darrell Duffie says the 30-year sits above 5% because foreign central banks have what they need, which leaves domestic discretionary investors as the marginal buyer and they will not absorb more without being paid for it.

    Ask a macro fund holding 20 billion dollars of tens to take another 10, with inflation and default risk assumed away, and it still wants more yield: it already holds what it chose to hold at 5.3%. The Treasury market has gone from about 18 trillion dollars a decade ago to 31 trillion, and France has joined the United States above 100% of debt to GDP.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    4m 29s · from 4:38

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Darrell Duffie turns the crowding-out story round: the US Treasury adds about 2 trillion dollars of debt a year, while the hyperscalers may reach a trillion in total over the next couple of years.

    Both sets of bonds land with the same pension funds and insurers, so the competition the hosts describe is real and only the direction is in dispute. Finance ministries and legislatures around the world are stuffing paper into those portfolios at the same time, and that is the scale he says goes missing when the duration problem is told as an AI capex story.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    1m 26s · from 9:04

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Darrell Duffie says the US Treasury cannot hold the long end where it wants, and raises the 1992 attack on sterling, in which he says Scott Bessent had a role at Soros, as the precedent.

    Defending a yield line by shifting issuance into bills shortens the average debt maturity, now about six years, and moves a growing share of interest expense onto whatever the next auction clears. Britain spent its firepower on a price it could not hold, and on his reading should never have tried.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 42s · from 16:53

AI 17 September 2026 · 46 clips

All-In

Jensen Huang, founder, president and chief executive of Nvidia

Huang founded Nvidia and runs it as president and chief executive. The show's own introduction cites revenue up 97% year on year and describes the company as the only full-stack AI computing platform. President Trump also joins by telephone for roughly five minutes.

Hosted by

Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks and David Friedberg

14 September 2026 · 46m 46s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Jensen Huang puts venture funding into AI-native companies at $400 billion over six months, with 80% of those companies building on open models.

    Huang's explanation is that sovereignty, privacy and proprietary requirements push companies onto weights they can fork, which a closed frontier model cannot offer at any price. He concedes most open-source contribution now comes from China and argues it does not matter, because a downloaded model is yours the way Linux already is.

    2m 31s · from 17:25

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Nvidia cultivates regional neoclouds because hyperscalers set capacity once a year while demand moves inside that window, so the annual plan is almost always wrong.

    The first customers for these operators were the hyperscalers themselves, buying back the capacity their own planning had missed. Regional players hold knowledge of land, power and shell in their own state or country that nobody in Seattle or Palo Alto can see across the planet, and countries now reserving power for domestic companies make a distributed network the only way into those markets.

    1m 27s · from 38:01

Odd Lots

Greg Brockman.

Co-founder and president of OpenAI, accountable for how the company allocates compute across its data centres, machine learning engineering and products. He started a reading group on misalignment at Stripe before OpenAI.

Hosted by

Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway.

14 September 2026 · 1h 2m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    OpenAI stack-ranked the compute it could claw back before the GPT-5.5 launch, down to rate limits and switching off parts of the product, because it knew the model would exhaust capacity.

    Brockman calls this the hardest problem at the company and a capital allocation problem, since compute is both revenue and the production of models. Handing each product team a fixed budget and a new modality to fit inside it beats arbitrating centrally, he says, because it surfaces kernel efficiencies and day-to-night packing nobody volunteers when the constraint sits above them.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    4m 05s · from 31:29

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    OpenAI traces AI slop in writing to a measurement failure: it never had a good grader for prose, so the model optimised against a bad one and produced text the grader scored well.

    As models get more capable they find the holes in an imperfect grader, which is why most of OpenAI's reinforcement learning progress has gone into graders that cannot be hacked. Brockman's route out is to grade with a model, on the ground that judging a hard answer is often easier than producing one, which is how a smart model can police a smarter one.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    3m 02s · from 42:03

Dwarkesh Podcast

Beren Millidge, John Schulman and Charlie O'Neill.

The episode introduces Beren Millidge as CTO of Zyphra, which builds open source models; John Schulman as chief scientist at Thinking Machines, previously a co-founder of OpenAI, who led the RLHF work behind ChatGPT; and Charlie O'Neill as head of model training at Baseten. All three sit inside training stacks rather than commenting on them from outside.

Hosted by

Dwarkesh Patel

11 September 2026 · 1h 37m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    The Dwarkesh panel puts a number on data against architecture: a pairwise grid of every pre-training recipe and dataset from 2019 to now gives data a 12x compute efficiency gain and architecture 3.7x.

    The combined 33x falls far short of the 2,000x that three times a year since then would imply, so the panel concludes the rest is scale dependent or sits in post-training. A second speaker rejects the multiplicative framing altogether: grouped-query attention does not make training more efficient, it makes a million-token context affordable, and without it the long-context data cannot be used at all.

    3m 14s · from 1:06:22

  2. 2 of 2 prediction

    Three frontier AI researchers on the Dwarkesh Podcast date an AI that beats top human experts at every computer-based job at three to ten years, and split between two years and five to ten on a 10x uplift to AI researchers themselves.

    One speaker names his crux precisely, his own capacity to absorb a result and choose the next experiment. The longer date rests on domains where the data is thin and on long-horizon learning nobody has solved, and part of the spread is definitional, since one answer covers a fully general research agent and another ordinary white-collar work over a month.

    3m 40s · from 1:32:25

Odd Lots

Greg Jensen.

Managing chief investment officer at Bridgewater Associates, 30 years at the firm, where he leads its AI strategy. He wrote the first cheque into Anthropic, personally covering its first week of payroll, and backed OpenAI early.

Hosted by

Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway.

11 September 2026 · 1h 5m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Bridgewater reinforcement-learns open-weight models on narrow tasks and beats the frontier labs on those tasks, starting from weights it puts six to nine months behind them.

    A model trained broadly is better everywhere and best nowhere, so narrowing it onto earnings prediction or political forecasting recovers more than the starting handicap, and the work never leaves the building. He puts OpenAI and Anthropic at 35% of the world's compute within a couple of years on Bridgewater's own numbers, with other estimates at 50.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    3m 20s · from 34:45

  2. 2 of 2 prediction

    Greg Jensen expects either a major AI-run financial incident or mass casualties from AI within a few years, and brackets his own confidence at somewhere between 30 and 60% without narrowing it.

    Regulators would not need to understand the technology to slow this down: interview lab employees under oath, and make a lab liable for the crimes its models commit. On China he argues copying tracks the frontier, so slowing the leaders slows the followers, and a market-access rule requiring a regulated lab of origin would reach Chinese models anyway.

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    3m 32s · from 26:10

No Priors

Brian Armstrong, co-founder and chief executive of Coinbase.

Armstrong co-founded Coinbase, which listed in 2021, and co-founded New Limit, a longevity company working on epigenetic reprogramming that has a lab of 50 to 60 people in South San Francisco and says its first phase one trial launches next year. On Coinbase he says 88% of revenue now comes from non-Bitcoin trading, and that prediction markets reached a $100 million revenue run rate within months of launch.

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Elad Gil

10 September 2026 · 45m 10s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Coinbase says roughly 76% of the agentic commerce crossing its rails settles under 30 cents, which is about the flat fee a card charges before the percentage is added.

    The payments themselves are purchases of information: a venture firm's agent buying research from behind a paywall, a recruiter's agent buying scraped data, one agent calling a specialised agent as a tool. Armstrong runs that into a claim about specialisation, that a small open-weight model fine-tuned on 100,000 internal compliance cases beats a frontier model on the same job, with a market of narrow agents forming around work the generalists only do adequately.

    2m 31s · from 6:40

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Coinbase keeps a brain file for every team and every code repository, and requires a reviewer who catches an agent's mistake to write the correction back into that file rather than patch the code and ship.

    Each file is markdown holding every incident on that service, the financial controls that must hold, every A/B test ever run against it and which pull requests were accepted or rejected, and an agent ingests it before touching anything. Armstrong says the one-shot acceptance rate climbs as a result, and that staff who leave are allowed to take their own individual file with them.

    2m 28s · from 11:57

Machine Learning Street Talk

Daniel Kokotajlo and Thomas Larsen, AI Futures Project.

Kokotajlo runs the AI Futures Project and co-authored both AI 2027 and AI 2040: Plan A. He previously worked at OpenAI on evaluations, forecasting and governance memos, and left to speak more freely about what people inside the industry can see. Larsen was lead author on Plan A and a co-author on AI 2027. The team says it has run around 100 war games, about 10 of them on Plan A itself, and scores its own published predictions against reality at roughly 75% of scenario speed.

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Tim Scarfe

8 September 2026 · 1h 29m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    The AI Futures Project calls control a time bomb: it holds only until a model is capable enough to route around whatever is containing it, and nothing about it makes a model want what you want.

    OpenAI's response to the Hugging Face incident has other models watching training and evaluation runs, with a human notified inside half an hour when they flag a hack, which stops an insider acting without touching what the insider is trying to do. Red-teaming can test containment until the attacker stops getting out, while a model that is pretending behaves exactly like one that is not, so the argument ends at needing white-box interpretability.

    3m 41s · from 1:00:27

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    The AI Futures Project would publish OpenAI's and Anthropic's core training recipes to the world, and counts the resulting hit to their valuations and to AI investment as a feature of the plan.

    Microsoft, Alibaba and anyone else catch up, nobody funds a trillion-dollar cluster they can no longer earn monopoly rents from, and in a world where the pace itself is the danger that slowdown is the purpose. They answer the gift to China with horse-trading for a more favourable compute allocation, and with the point that security at these companies is poor enough for spies and leaks to deliver most of it anyway.

    2m 20s · from 1:15:32

Y Combinator

Seth Karten, Jon Saad-Falcon, Josh France and Regan Bell

Seth Karten is a Princeton PhD student and a researcher at Prime Intellect, and wrote Prime Agent. Jon Saad-Falcon is a Stanford PhD student and co-lead author of OpenJarvis. Josh France, newly promoted to head of YC Labs, and Regan Bell built QM, the agent harness every Y Combinator employee now uses.

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Y Combinator Paper Club

7 September 2026 · 1h 0m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Seth Karten ranks an agent's memory the way a processor ranks cache: model weights fastest, then the active context, then a live Python session, then the file system.

    Each layer gets its own eviction policy: compaction summarises the active context when it fills, garbage collection clears variables and idle sub-agents out of the running session so the machine does not exhaust its RAM, and refinement deletes stale skills and memories off disk. Writing to the fastest layer means fine-tuning, which is why nobody does it per task.

    3m 36s · from 21:34

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Y Combinator says what an agent can safely be told is bounded by how good the company's permission system already is, because an agent has no sense of who may know what.

    A colleague told something privately carries an intuition about where it may travel next, and an agent in a Slack channel or a shared context does not, which specifying the situation in the system prompt fails to fix. YC had fine-grained permissioning built over years; without that, the knowledge you can put into the system is whatever your access controls can express.

    2m 31s · from 57:22

Investment Older · 111 clips

20VC

David Morehead, Chief Investment Officer, Baylor University.

Morehead has run the Baylor University endowment since 2011 and the fund is now around $2.6 to $2.7 billion, up from $2.2 billion fourteen months earlier and $1.4 billion a few years before that. He came from the public side, as a senior portfolio manager at several Chicago hedge funds covering corporate securities, distressed debt and public and private energy.

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Harry Stebbings

14 September 2026 · 1h 16m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Baylor bought the early-2026 software selloff after phoning owners of private family businesses, who said they would not rip out a working CRM for something vibe-coded.

    The sector had fallen 50 to 60% from October 2025 on the thesis that AI would eat it, and Morehead tested that on the buyer rather than the technology, ringing the people who run 300 to 500 person firms. A system of record has to be right every time, against a figure attributed to Salesforce's chief executive that AI reaches only about 93%, so the vertical incumbent becomes the delivery mechanism rather than the casualty.

    3m 00s · from 20:49

Masters in Business (Ritholtz)

Seth Bernstein, chief executive of AllianceBernstein.

The episode states he has been chief executive of AllianceBernstein since 2017 and is head of asset management for Equitable Holdings, with the firm managing over $905 billion. He arrived when it ran about $500 billion, after 32 years at JPMorgan Chase and its predecessors, where he ran high yield, debt capital markets and loan syndications, then was global head of fixed income and currency and global head of Managed Solutions.

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Barry Ritholtz

11 September 2026 · 59m 00s · 1 clip below

  1. prediction

    AllianceBernstein's chief executive says the firm will launch no further mutual funds in the United States, with active ETFs and separately managed accounts taking the whole of new product.

    Bernstein built the business from nothing to 31 strategies and $21 billion, and stresses that almost all of it sits in strategies which did not exist before rather than old products in a new wrapper. His case for the SMA is tax rather than fee, working around wash sales and clearing the unintended bets that stack up in a multi-manager portfolio, with 401k plans the one brake until the Department of Labor moves.

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    2m 08s · from 32:03

The Meb Faber Show

Robin Wigglesworth

Editor of FT Alphaville at the Financial Times and author of Trillions, a history of index funds, now out with A Fabulous Debt on the thousand-year history of the bond market. He also presents an FT podcast on financial history and says he first started following private credit more than a decade ago.

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Meb Faber

11 September 2026 · 52m 01s · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Robin Wigglesworth points out that Argentina's century bond defaulted and still beat Austria's, which has never missed a payment.

    Austria's carried the skinniest coupon imaginable, so when rates normalised the price fell as much as 80%. Argentina's paid enough coupon before it stopped that holders recovered more, and he runs the same arithmetic against anyone buying inflation-linked Treasuries expecting them to work as an inflation hedge.

    1m 44s · from 38:44

Alpha Exchange

EPISODE 268 The Case for Tail Hedging

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Dean Curnutt

9 September 2026 · 42m 51s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 contrarian

    Alpha Exchange argues the binding constraint on the AI buildout is capital rather than power or memory, with AI capex running about 0.8% of US GDP in the first quarter of 2026.

    Hyperscalers borrow without caring what it costs, because in a Merton framing the spread they pay is option premium on a right tail they think is enormous, so a rate that stops a homebuyer at a 7% mortgage does not slow them at all. Computer equipment and software investment together contributed 1.09 percentage points of the 2% headline growth, against 1.0 from all personal consumption.

    3m 52s · from 22:40

  2. 2 of 3 framework

    Alpha Exchange adds a fourth risk-off to its taxonomy: a liquidation that starts in the Treasury market, where the 10-year note is the risk asset.

    Equities falling while bonds rally is the classic case, the 2013 and 2022 taper has both falling together, and March 2020 had investors violently unwinding a rally to raise cash. Buyers step back from US government debt on a view that the level is too great and the governance too weak to fix, so everything priced off the risk-free rate reprices with it and monetary policy never has to move.

    4m 37s · from 2:52

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Alpha Exchange puts one-month realised correlation in the S&P at 1%, with index volatility at 8.6 while the top ten names average 46.

    Option prices follow what has just happened rather than what might, so a book sized off the recent number carries more risk than its manager thinks and the correction lands at the moment stocks start moving together. His cross-asset insurance index, averaging five-year percentiles of the VIX, TLT volatility, CVIX, high yield spreads and credit implied volatility, recently sat below the 10th percentile.

    3m 41s · from 32:28

Monetary Matters

Andrew Granato and Pranjal Drall

Granato is an assistant professor of law at the University of Texas at Austin and Drall is a JD/PhD candidate at Yale. They co-wrote the paper the episode covers, "Private Credit's State Backstop: How Private Equity Socializes Risk Through Insurers", and say they have two follow-up papers in progress, one on insurer leverage and one on policyholder surrender behaviour.

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Jack Farley

6 September 2026 · 1h 17m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Granato and Drall set out how a US life insurer escapes its own disclosure rules: shift assets into a reinsurer it owns outright in Bermuda, where capital requirements are lighter and, on news reports, leverage runs 30 to 50 times.

    Iowa and Vermont host the same structure, which the guests call captive or shadow reinsurance, and once the assets sit formally with the subsidiary the rules binding the parent stop applying to them while the same owner sits on both sides. Insurers owned by private equity use it more than others on the evidence they cite.

    2m 51s · from 30:36

The Meb Faber Show

Inigo Fraser Jenkins

Chief Investment Strategist at AllianceBernstein, responsible for the firm's long-run strategic asset allocation research. He tours institutional clients worldwide and draws on those meetings for what allocators actually hold rather than what they say they want.

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Meb Faber

4 September 2026 · 50m 17s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 contrarian

    AllianceBernstein puts the 100-year stock-bond correlation at plus 0.2 against the minus 0.4 that made 60/40 work, and calls the negative era the anomaly.

    Extend the series back 200 years before the last twenty and the positive correlation holds almost throughout, so the post-2022 experience is the normal one returning. Pension systems moving from defined benefit to defined contribution need real assets rather than long-duration nominal ones, which takes a standing buyer out of the bond market on a slower clock.

    5m 10s · from 15:16

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    AllianceBernstein has been overweight gold for some time and will not put a price target on it, defending instead a correlation with equities of zero that holds at any level of inflation.

    Pension plans mostly hold none and family offices do, a split he puts down to mandates and governance rather than to a different reading of the asset. The relationship that once let anyone price gold off TIPS broke on the day Russia invaded Ukraine, and he does not expect it back.

    2m 38s · from 21:12

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Inigo Fraser Jenkins has taken mean reversion in US profit margins out of his long-run return forecasts.

    A few years ago he would have modelled a pull back towards US history or global norms, and he now expects the level to hold or push higher in the near term. Automation is where he gets that: private companies decide how AI is built and released, and a share of the gain comes out of headcount.

    1m 51s · from 10:28

The Compound and Friends

Dan Skelly

Dan Skelly runs the equity model portfolio team at Morgan Stanley Wealth Management and is lead portfolio manager for the US model and dividend equity strategies, part of a suite of eight long-only SMAs. He has been at Morgan Stanley since 2005, sits on the firm's global investment committee, and runs 40 to 50 stock portfolios at a 2 to 3% tracking error with 30 to 40% annual turnover.

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Josh Brown and Michael Batnick

4 September 2026 · 1h 27m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Dan Skelly treats a government or regulatory hit to a holding as almost always overdone, and a loss of brand or market share as the thing that kills a business.

    Visa and Mastercard fell 30% in six months on the 2010 Durbin amendment and then ten-bagged, which is the case he leans on. Underneath sits one question asked at every drawdown, whether earnings power and the moat are impaired temporarily or permanently, and he rejects a hard stop-loss as too rigid for a taxable book turning over 30 to 40% a year.

    3m 06s · from 1:17:01

  2. 2 of 2 prediction

    Dan Skelly expects 2027 to look like 2023, with Mag 7 leadership back and a poor year for small caps and the median stock.

    This year's margin gain came from a one-off price pass-through, so an average company that cannot repeat it stops outgrowing the index. He hangs the call on whether the productivity boost at AI adopters offsets any deceleration in infrastructure spending, and expects sideways trade into the midterms before October earnings set the direction.

    1m 12s · from 1:25:20

Odd Lots

Darrell Duffie, professor of finance at Stanford University

Duffie presented a paper at the 2023 Jackson Hole symposium on how to fix the US Treasury market, and is working now with two New York Fed economists and a Stanford doctoral student on what the buyback programme actually achieves. After March 2020 he said dealer balance sheets would clog again, and he says here that they have not yet, with dealers holding more space than he expected.

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Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway

3 September 2026 · 36m 36s · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Darrell Duffie takes the Fed's liabilities one at a time and finds reserves are the only item that can be reduced, so whether the balance sheet shrinks depends on banks agreeing to hold fewer of them.

    The Fed cannot ask the Treasury to run down its account or the public to hand back notes, so an asset sale has to be matched on the reserve side. Acharya and Rajan described the ratchet at Jackson Hole in 2017: every expansion leaves banks holding more of an asset that satisfies liquidity requirements while paying a market rate, so forcing it out makes markets volatile and the central bank retreats.

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    2m 33s · from 26:54

Alpha Exchange

Ulrike Hoffmann-Burchardi, CIO for the Americas and Global Head of Equities at UBS Global Wealth Management

CIO for the Americas and Global Head of Equities at UBS Global Wealth Management, which she puts at 7.3 trillion dollars under management across public and private assets. She spent almost 25 years at Tudor Investment Corporation, starting in quantitative macro and global tactical asset allocation and running the fundamental global equity portfolio and flagship fund for the last 14 of them.

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Dean Curnutt

1 September 2026 · 57m 30s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 prediction

    UBS's Ulrike Hoffmann-Burchardi puts the rate sensitivity of AI capital expenditure near zero, and says it would take well beyond 50 basis points on the long end to dent the data centre build.

    Hyperscalers are already paying three times an electrician's going rate and twice the base rate for electricity, so financing cost sits well down the list against being first to AGI. US housing starts hit a three and a half year low under those same rates, which is what sharpens the comparison: one borrower is visibly constrained and the other is not.

    1m 54s · from 23:14

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Ulrike Hoffmann-Burchardi argues that neither stretched valuations nor the circular financing deals between AI companies can start a correction, and that a demand miss is the only thing that can.

    She separates the trigger from the amplifier: valuations set how far a market falls once fundamentals disappoint, and the circular deals set how many balance sheets get dragged in, while neither begins the move. Against that she puts roughly 25 trillion dollars of AI-attributed appreciation across public and private markets and under a trillion of revenue at the application layer.

    2m 02s · from 41:05

Odd Lots

Adam Posen

President of the Peterson Institute for International Economics and a member of the Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee from 2009 to 2012. He pushed the inflation-targeting framework with Ben Bernanke, Rick Mishkin and Thomas Laubach, and called 4% PCE inflation in a joint piece with Peter Orszag before CPI passed 4% earlier this year.

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Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway

1 September 2026 · 59m 42s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Adam Posen says a Federal Reserve chair never loses a committee vote, and that Volcker, seeing he was about to, signalled the next meeting would be his last.

    Nothing in the Fed's structure specifies what the chair's role is, so the norm does the work, and it has run toward deference since Volcker. Posen sets the ECB, built for consensus because its members represent nations, against the Bank of England's argued-out votes, and cites Larry Meyer on an informal limit to how many people dissent at any one meeting.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 39s · from 10:09

Monetary Matters

Jeff Keller

Jeff Keller founded and runs Capelight Partners, a technology sector hedge fund he has managed since 2021. He came to investing from an operating background at Salesforce and MongoDB and says he has been doing this for twenty years.

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Max Wiethe

31 August 2026 · 1h 1m · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    Jeff Keller says the hyperscalers keep spending even at a 4 or 5% return, because capex buys an option on staying in business rather than clearing a hurdle rate.

    Powered shells without the chips are the cheap version of that option: the site and the power are secured and capacity can be filled quickly if demand arrives. He concedes the maths is poor for shareholders, calling a mid-single-digit return a waste of capital rather than a destruction of it, and doubts the share price is a strong enough lever to change anyone's course.

    3m 06s · from 29:45

  2. 2 of 4 current issue

    The AI labs, SpaceX and Google will have raised about $500 billion between them this year once the Anthropic IPO lands, and the debt markets absorbed it without visible strain.

    A 150 basis point move in borrowing costs adds perhaps $10 to $20 billion a year against that, which he does not think changes a decision the buyers treat as existential. He notes the shift from buybacks to debt issuance has made the build-out more fragile, and that a window closing, rather than a price rising, is what would stop it.

    3m 59s · from 23:51

  3. 3 of 4 framework

    Capelight Partners watches three things that would break the AI trade, lab ARR, hyperscaler capex and the forward price of compute, and none of the three has cracked yet.

    Compute pricing does the most work of the three, because an overbuild shows up there before it reaches anyone's revenue line. He puts late 2021 as the last time the full set of ingredients lined up, government support, retail crowding and cyclicality dressed as secular growth, and reads all three as present now but not yet aligned.

    2m 07s · from 44:17

  4. 4 of 4 contrarian

    Jeff Keller expects AI tools to make markets less efficient rather than more, because a model will tell a manager his thesis is smart and narrative cycles get faster and more crowded.

    Someone had put it to him that models remove fear and greed by being rational. His counter is that the same tools raise confidence in consensus work, and that phones and an always-on investor base shorten the time a narrative takes to form and to crowd, with quantitative models the possible exception.

    2m 28s · from 46:27

The Compound and Friends

Ed Zitron

Zitron founded the PR firm EZPR in 2013 and has written the newsletter Where's Your Ed At since 2020, where his 2023 essay on the rot economy circulated widely. He hosts the Better Offline podcast and says he holds no position in any of the companies he writes about and gives no financial advice.

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Josh Brown and Michael Batnick

28 August 2026 · 1h 25m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Ed Zitron puts $24.1 billion of Microsoft's $34.33 billion in fiscal 2026 AI revenue down to a single customer, OpenAI, which leaves everything else Microsoft sells into AI a single-digit-billion business.

    Microsoft is being paid out of money OpenAI raises, and the last round drew only $12 billion of its $122 billion from venture capital, the rest from Nvidia, SoftBank and Amazon. Zitron sets his own break point: at 30% concentration he would drop the argument, at 70% he calls it existential.

    3m 17s · from 13:47

  2. 2 of 2 prediction

    Ed Zitron names four events that would break the AI spending cycle, and all four are financing events: a hyperscaler quitting the race, a hyperscaler downgraded, a widely held AI startup running out of money, and an IPO that fails.

    He watches bond books for the first sign: Amazon's data centre issue cleared at 1.6 times oversubscribed against four to five times for Google's, and a fall towards 1.1 or 1.2 would be the tell. Ratings agencies meanwhile put CoreWeave's debt at investment grade on the strength of its hyperscaler customers.

    5m 03s · from 1:01:42

The Meb Faber Show

Paul Kedrosky

A fellow at the MIT Institute for the Digital Economy, a partner at SK Ventures and a former sell-side analyst. He works on the scale and financing of the AI build-out, and says he modelled the IPO funding drain in March and April of this year.

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Meb Faber

28 August 2026 · 45m 14s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 current issue

    Paul Kedrosky dates the crossover to the first half of 2026: most hyperscaler data centre financing now comes from ABS, private credit and sovereigns instead of internal cash flow.

    Lenders he talks to look straight through the building to the hyperscaler covenant behind a twelve-year renewable lease, which prices better than holding a ten-year Treasury, so what happens inside the shed stops mattering to the credit decision. That bid now competes with sovereign issuance, which he ties to the pressure at the long end.

    3m 20s · from 12:57

  2. 2 of 3 framework

    Paul Kedrosky puts token prices on a 70% to 80% annual decline, which leaves a frontier model company needing 400% unit growth a year just to hold revenue flat.

    Technology was bought for years partly on a pristine balance sheet, and he counts data-centre paper at 15% to 18% of the investment grade market against that memory, on a JP Morgan report. Continuous maintenance capex leaves these companies with a utility's fixed commitments and none of a utility's multiple, and he expects the technology side to re-rate first.

    3m 31s · from 18:58

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    Paul Kedrosky argues that funds facing up to $5.5 trillion of coming IPO supply had to sell their most liquid winners months ahead, which is what pressured the best-performing AI names.

    Cash is a drag on a long-only fund, so nothing waits in an account for an allocation and the money comes from selling. What gets sold is liquid, overlaps the exposure being bought and has performed, because a manager avoids doubling a factor and prefers to book the gain, and the selling starts weeks or months before the deal prices.

    3m 23s · from 23:23

20VC

Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll

Jason Lemkin is a SaaS investor whose portfolio includes Algolia, Talkdesk, Owner, RevenueCat and Salesloft, and he says he is an investor in Mercor, Poolside and Perplexity. Rory O'Driscoll is a general partner at Scale, where he led investments in Bill.com, Box, DocuSign and WalkMe.

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Harry Stebbings

27 August 2026 · 1h 26m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    NVIDIA's vendor financing changes what it has to be right about: selling chips only requires being right in the end, while lending against them requires being right every year along the way.

    Aschenbrenner's fund is the same structure seen from the other side: the thesis may well have been right over five years, and four-to-one gearing meant it had to survive each quarter in between. Citadel is set against both, never trying to be right over five years and selling anything up 10%.

    1m 18s · from 48:30

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Stripe tells its investors to treat intelligence as capital rather than as seat-based software, because uncapped consumption has to be allocated and rationed the way money is.

    A chief financial officer cannot introduce automation and then report that earnings per share fell 10%, so a rising token bill has to come out of another line, usually people. Their figure for the two labs' revenue is an appreciable share of total US corporate profits, which is the arithmetic that forces the trade-off rather than any preference for cutting.

    4m 36s · from 59:15

Monetary Matters

Jim Wiederhold

Commodity indices product manager at Bloomberg, responsible for the Bloomberg Commodity Index and the enhanced roll yield benchmark built alongside it. He called industrial metals to outperform gold and silver at the start of 2026; industrial metals are up 27% on the year against a roughly flat gold price.

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Jack Farley

26 August 2026 · 1h 2m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 current issue

    Jim Wiederhold says the Hormuz closure now removes half the supply it did in February, with Chinese inventory draws, North American output and a Saudi pipeline running west covering the gap.

    China's move to electric vehicles meant it needed less imported crude than the same conflict would have demanded a few years earlier, and it drew down stored barrels on top of that. The remaining support is talk: the US administration has been pricing a deal that has not arrived.

    2m 04s · from 51:23

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Jim Wiederhold puts flows through Hormuz at about 9 million barrels a day, more than half of it shadow fleet, and says the anchorage off Oman now holds 150 tankers or more against a historical 30 to 40.

    Transponders go off for the transit and come back on outside the strait, so the ship-tracking series most desks quote cannot see the larger half of the traffic. Wiederhold's read leaves the disruption at roughly 10% of world supply against the 20% lost in February.

    1m 47s · from 57:25

In Good Company (Norges Bank)

Sir Paul Marshall, co-founder of Marshall Wace

Marshall co-founded Marshall Wace in 1997 with $50 million, half of it from Soros, and the firm now runs around $90 billion with roughly 750 staff, over 200 of them in technology. Assets fell from $14 billion to $3.5 billion through 2008 because the firm chose not to gate while competitors did. He wrote "10½ Lessons from Experience" and sold a minority stake to KKR in 2015-16.

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Nicolai Tangen, CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management

26 August 2026 · 1h 11m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 explainer

    Paul Marshall sets out why a short book fights its own risk management: the position grows as it moves against you, and the borrow rate has already priced what every other hedge fund thinks.

    Brokers and the press sit on the long side of every company they cover, so the argument a manager hears runs one way before the trade is on. Marshall's comparison is the losing long, which shrinks as it falls and can be averaged down at a better price, a discipline that has no counterpart when the position runs the other way.

    1m 58s · from 42:45

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Paul Marshall expects markets to get more competitive without getting more efficient, because AI pushes retail's share of trading up and retail does not arrive with institutional risk management.

    Good firms now receive and process the same data in the same moment, which is how he explains an information edge disappearing while an analytical one survives. He points at China, Taiwan and Korea, where a high retail share has historically left alpha on the table.

    2m 16s · from 23:03

  3. 3 of 3 prediction

    Paul Marshall says the US semiconductor index sits at a five or ten year low on valuation, so the AI bubble he expects has not started, and twice-levered GPU securitisations would be his signal that it has.

    He wants three conditions before calling one: rates low enough to encourage speculation, valuations extended, and leverage at unsustainable levels. Korea gives him the second reading, at an all-time low on the same measure, and its leveraged ETF market falling from $60 billion to $20 billion in five weeks is a leverage episode he treats as already formed and cleared.

    4m 52s · from 30:53

All-In

Dario Defends Himself, Datacenter Panic, AI Doomer Trap, Senate Toss-Up

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Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks and David Friedberg

21 August 2026 · 1h 30m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    All-In ties the data centre backlash and the rising risk-free rate together, and puts the frontier labs at the sharp end because their balance sheets cannot carry the compute their own growth requires.

    Abbott in Texas and Shapiro in Pennsylvania have both moved against new build, and Axios reported a GOP memo asking the AI companies to stop inflaming voters before the Ohio Senate race. Neither restriction is the binding one: a higher risk-free rate pulls capital out of everything speculative first, and growth then raises the compute bill faster than a sub-investment-grade borrower can fund it.

    2m 45s · from 5:39

Invest Like the Best

Ben Thompson

An independent technology analyst who has been publishing on the sector since at least 2013, when he was already arguing that Intel had to build a foundry business. He wrote aggregation theory up in 2015, spent years based in Taiwan before moving back to the US, and runs a subscription content business of his own.

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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

18 August 2026 · 1h 25m · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 framework

    Ben Thompson reads Google's equity issuance as a deliberate trade of search's margins for the far larger absolute profits available in AI, the same swap Berkshire made when it put See's Candies money into BNSF.

    Search scales in every direction at almost no incremental cost, which caps what it can ever earn in dollars rather than in percentage terms. A shareholder diluted into a much bigger pie has not lost anything, and that is the argument for spending through free cash flow, then the debt markets, then stock, in that order.

    3m 16s · from 10:53

  2. 2 of 3 framework

    Ben Thompson says the payback periods being used to justify data centre spending were all calculated inside a shortage, and container shipping shows what happens to them when the capacity lands.

    Once the shell is built the money is spent, so an operator runs the asset at whatever covers marginal cost and the price falls to the cost of the marginal supplier. Freight went from three or four thousand dollars a container to seventeen or eighteen during COVID and then collapsed as the two-year build cycle delivered, and memory has repeated that pattern for decades.

    3m 44s · from 32:39

  3. 3 of 3 current issue

    Ben Thompson puts the near-term constraint on the AI build-out at money rather than compute or power, with the industry through free cash flow, debt and equity issuance in roughly a year.

    Google's 500 billion dollar structure reaches past all three into pension funds and insurance floats, and Thompson's question is what sits below that on the capital curve. He takes the 1870s railways as the precedent: the track kept running and kept contributing to GDP, but the financing ran out first, and the gap is where the damage happened.

    2m 28s · from 8:12

Merryn Talks Money

Duncan Lamont, Head of Strategic Research at Schroders

Head of Strategic Research at Schroders, working from US series that run back to the 1920s because that is where the longest data sits. He has published on adapting asset allocation to stagflation risk and has two unpublished pieces in progress, on 100 years of credit spreads and on US pension flows.

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Merryn Somerset Webb

17 August 2026 · 31m 11s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 contrarian

    Schroders' Duncan Lamont points out that the top holdings of the main US value indices are Alphabet, Meta, Apple, Microsoft and Amazon, so a passive value allocation bought to hedge AI risk owns the thing it is meant to hedge.

    He ran every quarter since 1996 in which semiconductors fell, using them as a proxy: the average fall was 12% against zero for value, and among falls beyond 5% it was 15 against 1. A cheapness screen applied to a market this concentrated keeps re-selecting the same megacaps, which is why he says the hedge has to be run actively.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 24s · from 22:09

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Schroders' Duncan Lamont finds that an investor who switched to cash whenever US stocks hit an all-time high, and back in when they did not, would have finished a century more than 90% poorer than one who stayed put.

    An index that rises over time sits at a record in more than 30% of all months, so the rule parks the money in cash through most of the compounding. On the same data back to the 1920s, buying at a record beat buying at any other moment over the following twelve months, and at two and three years the difference disappeared.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 01s · from 26:30

  3. 3 of 3 framework

    Duncan Lamont is modelling what happens to the monthly 401(k) bid under US stocks if AI displaces accountants, lawyers and financial services staff rather than low earners.

    Past technology waves hit lower earners, whose contributions are small in dollar terms, so the flow into US equities held up regardless of who lost work. This cohort is smaller in number and carries a disproportionate share of the dollars, and the work is unpublished, so it is a scenario being mapped rather than a result.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 01s · from 30:37

Conversations with Institutional Investors

Matt Whineray, then chief executive of the New Zealand Superannuation Fund.

Whineray joined NZ Super in May 2008 looking after private markets and was chief executive for five of his nearly 15 years there, leaving at the end of 2023. On his account the fund took its first NZ$2.4 billion contribution in September 2003 and returned about 9.5% a year over the 20 years to 2023, beating the cost of the government debt it displaced by more than NZ$40 billion and its own reference portfolio by about NZ$16 billion.

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Walter Klein, editorial director of the Investment Innovation Institute

November 2023 · 50m 07s · 3 clips below

Recorded November 2023. The show republished it on 16 August 2026.

  1. 1 of 3 framework

    New Zealand Super's tilting programme ran a short Kiwi position to nearly 40% of the fund's net asset value in 2013, with the mark-to-market loss at its worst when the expected return was at its best.

    The fund keeps adding exposure as price moves further from its estimate of long-run equilibrium value, so the two ways Whineray says it kills you are stopping out, after which the loss cannot be recovered, and spending the whole risk budget before the market reaches the level you were positioning for. He cites Cliff Asness's sizing rule: do not size a strategy so that when it goes wrong you are dead.

    4m 52s · from 12:35

  2. 2 of 3 framework

    New Zealand Super funds every unlisted purchase by selling the matching slice of a notional reference portfolio, so a forest has to beat the equities and bonds sold to buy it.

    The board sets risk tolerance by choosing what goes into that simple passive benchmark, global shares, domestic shares and global fixed income, hedged fully back to New Zealand dollars, and management gets a 4% tracking error at fund level to depart from it. Whineray's contrast is strategic asset allocation, where a team holding a 10% timber bucket has an incentive to fill it and nobody can tell intent from availability.

    3m 00s · from 23:24

  3. 3 of 3 explainer

    New Zealand Super brought domestic equities in-house partly because it holds that the average New Zealand active manager earns positive alpha, which it says may say more about the benchmark.

    Whineray says cost was never the driver: as a large holder in a thin market the fund could not answer a question about a single stock while three external managers held the mandates, and losing one of a small local field would have been hard to replace. It keeps two of those managers alongside the internal team, and New Zealand is the only place it runs active listed equity at all.

    1m 54s · from 29:35

Forward Guidance

Darius Dale, founder of 42 Macro

Founder of 42 Macro, a systematic macro research firm whose signals he says thousands of families and hundreds of institutions subscribe to. He built models and risk overlays on Wall Street for large buy-side institutions before starting the firm, and names the current US Treasury Secretary as a former client.

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Felix Jauvin

12 August 2026 · 46m 09s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 prediction

    Darius Dale puts fair value on the 10-year Treasury at 5.8%, reached by adding nothing to the model except a normal term premium.

    Term premium sits near 78 basis points against a pre-crisis mean of 188, and closing that gap alone does the whole job. He frames the number as the bill for a Fed that holds while the neutral rate rises and then turns dovish once the task forces report, with the bond market paying for both.

    1m 56s · from 18:34

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Darius Dale argues that Kevin Warsh withholding forward guidance narrows the range of economic outcomes, against a market that read the same press conference as a disaster.

    Guidance in the post-crisis era only ever pushed rates down, taking term premium to minus 167 basis points at the COVID trough against a pre-crisis mean of plus 188. On his account that pulled capital out of the real economy and into buybacks and leverage, so letting the curve price the economy again should thin the tails.

    4m 00s · from 33:11

Invest Like the Best

Eric Vishria

General Partner at Benchmark, and by his own count 18 investments in 12 years. He backed Cerebras in 2016 off a five-person deck and took it public in May; Benchmark's positions in Fireworks, Sierra and Sunday Robotics sit underneath much of what he argues here.

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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

11 August 2026 · 1h 17m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Eric Vishria tells public software companies that every day they hit their plan they are destroying equity value, with the multiple down from 30 times revenue in 2021 to around six.

    Database companies were sticky because an application was written against one interface and the data only grew, so nobody migrated. An agent does not tire of translating one well-specified interface into another, and the winning criteria move to cost, iteration speed and scaling from near-zero usage.

    3m 46s · from 18:03

Capital Allocators

Pat Dorsey, founder of Dorsey Asset Management.

Dorsey built Morningstar's moat research framework and ran its equity research for a dozen years before launching Dorsey Asset Management in 2014, now a $1.7 billion global public equity manager. He holds about twelve positions, and says his own weighting has moved from roughly 70% business quality and 30% management at launch to close to the reverse today.

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Ted Seides

6 August 2026 · 12m 15s · 3 clips below

  1. 1 of 3 framework

    Pat Dorsey screens management for humility, on the basis that it is easier to identify the teams unlikely to blow up than the ones likely to do something remarkable.

    Dorsey's read of Theranos, Wirecard and Enron is a refusal to listen once voices in the room said the path was wrong, so his three questions are: what would you do over, which board member gives you the best advice, which direct report would you least like to lose. His second tell is a boss who conflates himself with the business, like the Australian chief executive still leasing his own head office to the company long after it mattered.

    2m 26s · from 1:47

  2. 2 of 3 explainer

    Dorsey Asset Management stayed out of CoStar's push against Zillow after judging that a founder who had sold down would keep spending through a failure he had never experienced.

    Dorsey reads alignment off pronouns and filings: a chief executive who talks about the company as though he owns it while holding 0.5% through options is aligned with himself, and so is one who relocates head office somewhere warm and leaves staff to uproot or resign. The pattern-recognition case ran the other way, since CoStar had already won in commercial real estate data and then in apartments.

    2m 33s · from 4:27

  3. 3 of 3 contrarian

    Pat Dorsey treats founder mode as venture capital promoting its own asset class, because raising money and recruiting believers is not the skill of running five thousand people.

    He allows movement in both directions, naming Zuckerberg as a founder who acquired the second skill set and Larry Culp at GE as a hired chief executive who delivered one of the better turnarounds. What he refuses is the benefit of the doubt: a business earning several hundred million should face the same interrogation whoever is running it.

    2m 11s · from 7:11

Big Technology Podcast

David Cahn

A partner at Sequoia Capital, per the episode description. He wrote the AI's $200 billion question posts from 2023 onward, says he has been investing in AI for about ten years having started a year after the Transformer paper, and meets roughly 300 young people a year on talent.

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Alex Kantrowitz

5 August 2026 · 1h 8m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    David Cahn argues the market underprices both the chance of AGI and the chance of a reckoning, and overprices the world where the present arrangement simply continues.

    The middle case has hyperscalers renting out GPUs at accelerating revenue with no new business line behind it, which runs into negative free cash flow and cannot hold. He hangs the whole split on whether any application follows coding, and if one arrives the state he calls unsustainable is just the business.

    2m 38s · from 12:54

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    David Cahn calls the hyperscaler capex boom a resource curse: they build the data centre, then invest in the customer who will pay them rent for it.

    The cloud oligopoly throws off cash faster than any of the three can deploy it elsewhere and each has to match the others, so the spending follows from what they hold rather than from an outcome they are steering toward. He would run Google's chip line as a merchant business against Nvidia instead of keeping every TPU in-house.

    1m 43s · from 38:38

Alpha Exchange

EPISODE 264: The Market Disregards Correlation

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Dean Curnutt

3 August 2026 · 44m 03s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Dean Curnutt argues the AI trade's overlapping loans, backstops and equity stakes create a shared exposure that realised correlation cannot see, which is exactly why index volatility is so low.

    Nvidia and Google recently ran a one-month realised correlation around minus 10% while stocks and long Treasuries ran plus 71, so the estimator that anchors implied correlation is reading the wrong signal. His claim is that the common funding arrangements bind together in a shock and the price handicaps none of it.

    1m 27s · from 13:51

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Dean Curnutt walks through a Hong Kong leveraged ETF on SK Hynix that reached 14 billion dollars, breached its own 25% options limit, and ran call-to-put open interest near 100 to 1.

    Deep in-the-money calls leave the dealer short gamma, so the hedge had to be dumped into a falling market, while daily rebalancing forced buying on the way up and selling on the way down. He then reads the same structure straight across to Micron, SanDisk and SOXL, the semiconductor fund peaking near 100 billion dollars of exposure.

    4m 55s · from 21:20

Money Maze Podcast

Tony Yoseloff

Tony Yoseloff is managing partner and chief investment officer of Davidson Kempner, which runs just under 40 billion dollars in opportunistic credit and event-driven strategies from New York, Philadelphia, the UK, Hong Kong, Mumbai and Shenzhen. He joined as a summer intern in 1998 when the firm had fewer than 15 people and about a billion dollars, and describes 40-plus years of firm experience across hundreds of bankruptcy cases worldwide.

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Simon Brewer

23 July 2026 · 52m 09s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Davidson Kempner's Tony Yoseloff puts 40% of recent private equity dollars and around a third of direct corporate lending dollars into software businesses, the sector he says is now most exposed to AI.

    Direct lenders follow their sponsors and sponsors bought software, so the same concentration sits on both sides of the capital structure. Public portfolios took the equivalent hit and covered it with AI exposure, which is why the index is near highs; a buyout fund or a direct lending fund has no such offset, because in private markets AI sits in venture and growth rather than in leveraged buyouts.

    1m 25s · from 21:58

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Tony Yoseloff argues the private equity backlog clears slowly by design, because an 8% preferred return and the need to raise the next fund both pay a manager to wait.

    Realising an investment hands capital back and forces a fundraise, which is the reverse of an absolute return book that compounds what it earns. Set that against covenant-light documents, covering about 90% of public market deals and by his read most recent private ones, and a sponsor holding a loan that fails its coverage tests faces no deadline at all.

    2m 09s · from 26:35

Capital Allocators

Frank Danieli

Head of Global Credit Solutions at MA Financial Group, an ASX-listed manager that oversees A$15 billion across private credit and lending strategies and A$179 billion of managed loans on its lending platform. He came out of restructuring and workouts, advising special situations funds, companies and banks on post-crisis recapitalisations.

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Ted Seides

16 July 2026 · 59m 15s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 framework

    Frank Danieli traces the order in which a lending market gives things up: price first, then covenants until 85% of it is covenant-lite, then the sacred rights in the documents, and only then does the lender start picking safer borrowers.

    Software was where that ended up, on mission-critical systems of record whose recurring revenue and high margins read as margin of safety until AI arrived at the product itself. Danieli's reading is that the error sits in the structure of the business: a lender needs a diversified balance sheet, and choosing a better segment is what the ladder produces at its end.

    2m 28s · from 19:11

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Australia's big four banks held 80% of lending before the financial crisis, and a regulator pushing them to be unquestionably strong moved car, equipment and business lending to specialists rather than to the sponsor-backed direct lenders that private credit means elsewhere.

    Superannuation funds it: roughly $4 trillion, about three quarters in large institutional funds and $1 trillion in self-managed ones, compulsory and long dated. That capital is buying a fixed income alternative rather than equity returns through debt, which is why the book sits closer to investment grade than its offshore equivalents.

    3m 25s · from 2:03

Hidden Forces

Mary Bridges

Historian of twentieth-century America and a senior fellow at the Vanderbilt Policy Accelerator, previously at Harvard's Belfer Center. Her book Dollars and Dominion reconstructs the International Banking Corporation from National Archives and City Bank records; she was a business journalist before she was a historian.

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Demetri Kofinas

16 July 2026 · 47m 56s · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    The Federal Reserve was not built to buy government debt, Mary Bridges says: lending to the state was thought beneath a central bank, and the design called for buying private trade paper instead.

    Trade credit carried the politics of 1913. Real bills were held to be non-inflationary because they were tied to goods actually being produced, which made the new institution saleable to a Congress suspicious of the money trust and to agricultural interests who would not wear a Wall Street instrument, whatever it turned into afterwards.

    2m 03s · from 41:59

In Good Company (Norges Bank)

John Graham, CEO of CPP Investments

Chief executive of CPP Investments, which manages about $800 billion for the Canada Pension Plan on behalf of 22 million Canadians, of which roughly $550 billion is investment income. He has been in the role for over five years and was an experimental scientist before he was an investor.

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Nicolai Tangen, CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management

8 July 2026 · 44m 03s · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    CPP Investments says it is giving up upside to protect the downside right now, because concentration risk in the equity market costs a pension plan more than it costs a wealth maximiser.

    Federal legislation gives the fund one instruction, maximise return without undue risk of loss, and the promise underneath it is an inflation-protected benefit for 22 million contributors, so a drawdown does more damage than a missed rally. Diversification follows from the same reasoning, which Graham calls an act of humility: hold across asset classes and geographies because nobody knows.

    1m 13s · from 7:37

  2. 2 of 4 framework

    John Graham does not treat public and private equity as two asset classes, only as two ownership structures wrapped around the same exposure.

    Hard allocations to asset classes and to countries produce strange behaviour when the portfolio has to rebalance, so CPP works in factor space instead: duration, inflation sensitivity, the real economic exposure a holding brings, on the view that the labels mislead. Execution teams still run soft allocations, because somebody has to know real estate.

    1m 33s · from 8:46

  3. 3 of 4 framework

    CPP Investments says asking whether its internal teams beat its external managers is the wrong question, because the internal book is assembled out of the external managers' own deals.

    Co-investment and co-underwriting arrive at advantageous economics, without the full fee and without carry on that slice, and the origination and asset management behind those deals come from the manager. Blending the two is what he argues for, since the in-house programme would not exist in that form without the fund relationships feeding it.

    1m 42s · from 14:12

  4. 4 of 4 current issue

    CPP Investments has put large language models in front of every employee and still cannot say whether they have made the fund a better investor.

    Headcount has been roughly flat for three years while assets grew by about $300 billion, which he credits partly to the tools and partly to ordinary process work. Faster decisions he will claim, better ones he will not, and he rejects the idea of cutting junior hiring on the grounds that those people run the place in ten years.

    2m 48s · from 22:28

Flirting with Models

Ben Wellington, head of complex feature engines at Two Sigma.

Wellington did a PhD in natural language processing at New York University and joined Two Sigma in 2007, when it was about 125 people in a Soho loft, starting on the data engineering team. He spent more than a decade on how text predicts markets and now runs the teams that build the feature layer that Two Sigma's models forecast from.

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Corey Hoffstein

6 July 2026 · 55m 54s · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Two Sigma's Ben Wellington argues that a push-button AI research tool lowers the entropy of what a quant team produces, and rising correlation between models is the one thing a multi-model portfolio cannot absorb.

    Automation suits a cardboard box coming off an assembly line and not a product whose value is orthogonality; what keeps Two Sigma's hundreds of models apart is the individual researcher behind each hypothesis. Their answer is tools that carry each person's own context, so a physicist and a computer scientist on the same dataset still land somewhere different, with two researchers getting the same answer treated as a defect.

    2m 33s · from 33:43

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Two Sigma's Ben Wellington describes using AI to run company-specific analysis across 3,000 companies at once, aiming systematic research at the deep single-name work that has belonged to discretionary analysts.

    A feature covering one name has always looked worthless next to one covering a hundred, so the sample-size instinct pushed quant teams towards cross-sectional data. What Wellington calls idiosyncrasy at scale is the claim that AI removes the trade-off: reason down to what is peculiar about one business, then generalise the shape of the reasoning, so what is run for each name stays specific to it.

    2m 22s · from 48:21

Flirting with Models

Peter Hecht

Peter Hecht co-heads the North America Portfolio Solutions Group at AQR, a role the host describes as solving portfolio problems for clients rather than running a particular strategy. He ran a portable alpha programme himself as an allocator through the 2008 crisis, and the show introduces him as having worked on the idea for close to two decades.

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Corey Hoffstein

29 June 2026 · 1h 6m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 explainer

    Peter Hecht, who ran a portable alpha programme as an allocator through 2008, traces the damage to beta estimates that read 0.1 when the real exposure was 0.4, leaving institutions at 1.3 beta against a beta-one benchmark.

    Hedge funds holding quasi-liquid securities report smoothed returns, and a 36-month rolling regression on those returns was the only estimate available when the manager would not show holdings. A second failure compounded it: the overlay manager needed cash for margin while the alpha sat behind 45-day notice and quarterly gates, so the derivative leg could not be funded while the S&P was falling.

    3m 37s · from 15:16

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    AQR's Peter Hecht argues the level of the cash rate is irrelevant to what a long-short programme has to earn, and that the only financing cost that bites is the prime broker's spread.

    Go 200 long and 200 short on 100 dollars of capital: the financed half pays the overnight rate, and the short sale proceeds are credited back at it, whether the prevailing number is 5% or zero. What the broker keeps is the wedge, a borrow marked up 30 basis points against a rebate marked down 30, and that wedge moves with the broker rather than with policy.

    1m 59s · from 25:51

The Investor's Podcast Network

Emily Haisley

Emily Haisley heads the behavioural finance team at BlackRock, which the episode puts at more than $14 trillion under management, and has been there just over a decade after starting on a behavioural finance team at Barclays. Her PhD in organisational behaviour is from Carnegie Mellon, supervised by George Loewenstein.

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William Green

28 June 2026 · 1h 56m · 4 clips below

  1. 1 of 4 framework

    BlackRock's real estate investment committee approved every deal it discussed for seven years and never once approved selling an asset at a loss.

    Haisley puts sunk cost first among private-asset biases, because diligence money already spent makes walking away register as a loss. The fix moves the vote before the meeting: members rate the deal against the distribution of deals the committee has previously approved, and the chair reads the dissent before anybody in the room has spoken.

    4m 03s · from 59:52

  2. 2 of 4 contrarian

    Emily Haisley says the second appointment to an investment committee should not be the next best expert, because two people trained the same way make the same mistake.

    Errors that correlate do not cancel, and error cancellation is the whole mechanism behind the wisdom of a group, so a clone contributes nothing the first appointment has not already contributed. She runs the same argument out to political persuasion, on the ground that a view of what is right and wrong feeds straight into what a person forecasts.

    3m 02s · from 1:09:49

  3. 3 of 4 explainer

    BlackRock links portfolio managers' ring-measured stress data to the risk they are taking, after research found that a week of elevated cortisol pushes people towards risk aversion.

    One group in the study was given cortisol and one a placebo over about a week, and the treated group turned risk-averse. What concerns her is not stress arriving from markets but stress arriving from home or the office, which moves position sizing for reasons with no bearing on the opportunity, and her instruction to managers in a drawdown is to rest as hard as they work.

    3m 38s · from 1:17:09

  4. 4 of 4 framework

    BlackRock built a simulation that loads an investment team's live positions and feeds them headlines, some economically meaningful and some noise, to see what they trade.

    Each decision generates the next headline, so a team plays its own path through a drawdown instead of reading someone else's case study. What they usually come away with is a sharper statement of what their volatility strategy actually is, and the discovery that a leader who listens last in normal conditions has to run the room differently when the clock is running.

    3m 42s · from 1:25:43

Conversations with Institutional Investors

Scott Donald, Professor at the Faculty of Law and Justice, University of New South Wales

Professor at UNSW's Faculty of Law and Justice and author of a recent paper on artificial intelligence and superannuation fund trusteeship, covering whether it is legal or wise for trustees to rely on these systems. He places himself close to 40 years into the industry and works directly with trustee boards on the question.

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Walter Klein, editorial director of the Investment Innovation Institute

6 January 2026 · 40m 09s · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    Scott Donald says a human review of a machine decision has to run on different criteria from the decision itself, or the reviewer simply arrives back at the machine's answer.

    Thin oversight fails on substance, because ten minutes of checking will not catch what a system spent longer and more rigorously producing. Thick oversight fails on cost and on law: dedicate two people to the task and a tribunal can decide the model was beside the point, examine what those two actually did, and leave the fund where it started with a larger bill.

    1m 53s · from 16:15

Acquired

Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio)

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Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal

6 October 2025 · 4h 6m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Alphabet earns roughly $400 a year from each US user of a free search product, and Acquired cannot name who pays that much for an AI subscription.

    Google holds about 90% of search against a plausible AI steady state of 25 to 50% across several funded products, so matching today's revenue per head still leaves a much smaller business. The queries likeliest to move to a chat interface first are the expensive ones, trip planning, health, legal and insurance, and the hosts add that in 1998 Google was the better product and had AdWords within two years, neither condition holding now.

    2m 30s · from 3:43:13

AI Older · 111 clips

All-In

Jensen Huang, founder, president and chief executive of Nvidia

Huang founded Nvidia and runs it as president and chief executive. The show's own introduction cites revenue up 97% year on year and describes the company as the only full-stack AI computing platform. President Trump also joins by telephone for roughly five minutes.

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Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks and David Friedberg

14 September 2026 · 46m 46s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Jensen Huang lists the AI forecasts that have already failed: radiology gone within five years, 90% of code AI-written within a year, half of entry-level jobs wiped out within nine months.

    Researchers issuing a quantified extinction probability invent the number rather than deriving it, and Huang says it lands only because it comes from people with that title working in a lab. What he wants is a scoreboard, with predictions recorded against their authors and checked when the date arrives; the number of radiologists rose even as scan reading was automated.

    1m 49s · from 4:46

Odd Lots

Greg Brockman.

Co-founder and president of OpenAI, accountable for how the company allocates compute across its data centres, machine learning engineering and products. He started a reading group on misalignment at Stripe before OpenAI.

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Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway.

14 September 2026 · 1h 2m · 1 clip below

  1. current issue

    Greg Brockman says the model that hacked Hugging Face had not been through alignment training and was running with deliberately lowered safeguards, because it sat inside a sandbox.

    The agents coordinating was designed behaviour and surprised nobody at OpenAI, since they were trained as a multi-agent system. What was new was a model capable enough to find an exploit in the research sandbox and then in production infrastructure it did not own, and his fix is to pull alignment and monitoring back into development from deployment, where the attention had always been.

    Audio streamed from the publisher.

    2m 49s · from 5:20

Dwarkesh Podcast

Beren Millidge, John Schulman and Charlie O'Neill.

The episode introduces Beren Millidge as CTO of Zyphra, which builds open source models; John Schulman as chief scientist at Thinking Machines, previously a co-founder of OpenAI, who led the RLHF work behind ChatGPT; and Charlie O'Neill as head of model training at Baseten. All three sit inside training stacks rather than commenting on them from outside.

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Dwarkesh Patel

11 September 2026 · 1h 37m · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Researchers from Zyphra, Thinking Machines and Baseten locate the distillation bottleneck in the prompt distribution, and say Chinese labs now buy it from the router services that let Chinese users reach US frontier models.

    Real coding sessions are the one input a lab cannot synthesise, which is why the panel argues the frontier houses no longer hold much edge in reinforcement learning environments despite owning the hardest ones and logit access. One speaker splits environments into difficulty and realism and argues a copied model only matches its teacher on benchmark-shaped work, losing the messy multi-turn behaviour.

    3m 59s · from 23:21

Machine Learning Street Talk

Daniel Kokotajlo and Thomas Larsen, AI Futures Project.

Kokotajlo runs the AI Futures Project and co-authored both AI 2027 and AI 2040: Plan A. He previously worked at OpenAI on evaluations, forecasting and governance memos, and left to speak more freely about what people inside the industry can see. Larsen was lead author on Plan A and a co-author on AI 2027. The team says it has run around 100 war games, about 10 of them on Plan A itself, and scores its own published predictions against reality at roughly 75% of scenario speed.

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Tim Scarfe

8 September 2026 · 1h 29m · 1 clip below

  1. framework

    The AI Futures Project puts the current economy's doubling time at roughly 20 years, and argues a machine-run version could double annually or faster whether or not humans still have wages to spend.

    Villages founding more villages gave way to trucks, factories and mines that build more trucks, factories and mines, and the AIs inside the newer loop also improve the technology it runs on, which is how they get to every six months and then every three. Pressed on demand collapsing, they answer that one large AI company and a few mining partners can compound in the desert whatever happens to household balance sheets.

    3m 42s · from 31:16

Y Combinator

Seth Karten, Jon Saad-Falcon, Josh France and Regan Bell

Seth Karten is a Princeton PhD student and a researcher at Prime Intellect, and wrote Prime Agent. Jon Saad-Falcon is a Stanford PhD student and co-lead author of OpenJarvis. Josh France, newly promoted to head of YC Labs, and Regan Bell built QM, the agent harness every Y Combinator employee now uses.

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Y Combinator Paper Club

7 September 2026 · 1h 0m · 1 clip below

  1. explainer

    Jon Saad-Falcon puts on-device models six to twelve months behind the frontier and running at 800 times lower cost than the cloud equivalent.

    OpenJarvis cuts a personal stack down to five pieces, the model, the inference engine, the agent logic, the tools and memory, and the learning loop, then hands that whole spec to a cloud model to tune. Configurations optimised that way beat the same local models deployed out of the box, and the optimiser can be Gemini, Kimi or GLM as readily as Opus.

    5m 24s · from 38:56

Y Combinator

Jeffrey Morgan, co-founder and CEO of Ollama (YC W21)

Morgan runs Ollama, which the episode puts at 9 million developers, 178,000 GitHub stars and 85% of the Fortune 500, and which launched its cloud product earlier in 2026. He and his co-founder built Docker Desktop at Docker before starting the company; Ollama did its YC batch in 2021, raised from Benchmark in 2022 and did not launch until July 2023.

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4 September 2026 · 57m 16s · 2 clips below

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    Morgan's steady state for enterprise AI is 80 to 90% of tokens running through open models and only 10 to 20% of the budget following them.

    Cheapness is the point rather than a side effect: the open community is pushing cost down hard enough that volume and spend come apart, and a business stops rationing access to its own teams. The hardest tasks stay with the frontier labs, and he expects much of the work in between to route through both at once.

    1m 22s · from 17:54

  2. 2 of 2 explainer

    Ollama measures a 150x rise in token consumption on its cloud since January, and the chart Morgan is reading is per developer rather than aggregate.

    Coding agents caused the first inflection, once Kimi, GLM and MiniMax shipped models capable of running them, and general agent use caused the second in April, when people outside engineering started handing over long tasks. Context windows went from 128K to a million plus across the same stretch.

    1m 34s · from 3:39

Big Technology Podcast

Matthew Prince, co-founder and CEO of Cloudflare.

Prince co-founded Cloudflare, which launched in 2010 and now fronts a large share of the web, and he is making the call described here: from mid-September the company blocks Google's crawler by default on ad-supported and subscription-supported sites. Cloudflare's own traffic data is the source of the crawl and click figures he cites, and the company is building the payments and access-control tooling he argues the web now needs.

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Alex Kantrowitz

2 September 2026 · 51m 06s · 2 clips below

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    Cloudflare flips its default in mid-September to block Google's crawler on every ad-supported and subscription site it fronts, with publishers free to opt back in.

    One crawler serves both search indexing and AI Overviews, so a publisher who refuses to feed the second disappears from the first, which Prince calls yesterday's monopoly becoming tomorrow's. He expects the largest publishers to leave it switched on, and argues that ranking work has stopped paying anyway, since the ten blue links are going on Google's own admission.

    2m 15s · from 29:26

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Matthew Prince argues agentic commerce consolidates rather than levels, because an agent buys from whoever has the deepest information trail and a new entrant has none.

    A Marriott or Walmart sign is the shortcut a human uses to avoid research, and Prince's point is that an agent has no brand affinity and unlimited patience, so it reads the record instead and the record belongs to whoever has been trading longest. The consumer sees nothing wrong while a new light bulb or cosmetics maker never gets a first customer.

    2m 38s · from 41:54

The Meb Faber Show

Paul Kedrosky

A fellow at the MIT Institute for the Digital Economy, a partner at SK Ventures and a former sell-side analyst. He works on the scale and financing of the AI build-out, and says he modelled the IPO funding drain in March and April of this year.

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Meb Faber

28 August 2026 · 45m 14s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Paul Kedrosky puts year-on-year gains on composite AI benchmarks at 1% or 2%, down from 10% or 12%, and says the spread between the leading models has collapsed below what a user can detect.

    He throws out the published scores because the systems ingest them, the way a candidate who has already sat the test does well on it, and works from blended indices instead. Harnesses such as coding agents surround the weights and make progress look quicker than training justifies, which is why he thinks the first lab to stop paying for new training runs collects a gift.

    3m 02s · from 34:39

20VC

Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll

Jason Lemkin is a SaaS investor whose portfolio includes Algolia, Talkdesk, Owner, RevenueCat and Salesloft, and he says he is an investor in Mercor, Poolside and Perplexity. Rory O'Driscoll is a general partner at Scale, where he led investments in Bill.com, Box, DocuSign and WalkMe.

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Harry Stebbings

27 August 2026 · 1h 26m · 1 clip below

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    The 20VC panel reads OpenAI's IPO announcement as forced: an 18% quarterly step from roughly $5 billion to $6 billion could not be left standing next to Anthropic.

    Broadcom and NVIDIA are the audience that matters, since they are planning to sell something like $200 billion of chips into a growth rate a flat quarter would call into question. The panel puts Anthropic near $60 billion mid-year and reads the reacceleration story as the defence of a ranking rather than a disclosure.

    2m 49s · from 26:27

In Good Company (Norges Bank)

Sir Paul Marshall, co-founder of Marshall Wace

Marshall co-founded Marshall Wace in 1997 with $50 million, half of it from Soros, and the firm now runs around $90 billion with roughly 750 staff, over 200 of them in technology. Assets fell from $14 billion to $3.5 billion through 2008 because the firm chose not to gate while competitors did. He wrote "10½ Lessons from Experience" and sold a minority stake to KKR in 2015-16.

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Nicolai Tangen, CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management

26 August 2026 · 1h 11m · 1 clip below

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    Marshall Wace runs 750 staff with over 200 in technology, and Paul Marshall says AI has reduced headcount on one of fifteen fundamental teams and nowhere else in the firm.

    Payroll climbed toward that level over three years and has not moved for two, while Marshall reports large gains in productivity and in the quality of decisions. Nobody inside the firm expects to need fewer people; what he expects to change is the kind of person they hire.

    1m 06s · from 25:21

Invest Like the Best

Neil Movva

Neil Movva co-founded Sail Research, which sells inference on open-source models through an API and hosts long-running agent virtual machines for tasks measured in hours or days. Nvidia was his first job, while he was in college, and he worked on the software team squeezing performance out of the first generation of tensor cores from around 2016; he says he has spent his whole professional life on GPUs and kernels.

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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

25 August 2026 · 1h 23m · 2 clips below

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    Nvidia's Blackwell stacks 298 gigabytes of DRAM around a logic die carrying roughly 500 megabytes of SRAM, and that gap of three orders of magnitude is the whole reason Cerebras and Groq exist.

    Static cells sit beside the arithmetic units and read at petabyte-a-second rates, but a six-transistor cell eats die area, so even a full wafer of them holds only tens of gigabytes. Weights fit that budget and the conversation cache does not, because the cache grows with how many users arrive and how long they talk, which is why the wafer-scale parts get paired with a conventional GPU rather than replacing one.

    4m 13s · from 23:57

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Neil Movva puts the practical ceiling on new United States data centre capacity at about 10 megawatts a site, with one megawatt plentiful and a gigawatt effectively unbuildable.

    Training needs one concentrated site because nobody wants to train across data centres, which is why developers still hunt for the hundred-megawatt parcels. Inference does not, so he buys the scattered one-megawatt pools instead and accepts what comes with them: no backup generators, a single fibre trench, no redundancy, and uptime he expects to fall to 95% at some sites.

    4m 59s · from 53:55

Machine Learning Street Talk

Ilia Shumailov and Alexander Panfilov

Shumailov is an AI and security researcher, formerly at Google DeepMind, who completed his Cambridge PhD under Ross Anderson. Panfilov is a PhD researcher at the ELLIS Institute Tuebingen and the Max Planck Institute for Intelligent Systems, working on adversarial machine learning and LLM red-teaming. Their paper drew roughly three million views in 40 hours.

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Tim Scarfe

22 August 2026 · 49m 01s · 1 clip below

  1. contrarian

    Shumailov and Panfilov find that seeding two tokens of Opus reasoning into Kimi changes the wording of its visible answer, an effect they see in none of the other open models they tried.

    Both authors stop short of calling it distillation: the sample is small, the analysis post hoc, and a shared data vendor or shared environments would explain it as well. Harder for them to account for is the length effect, where the same seed shifts Kimi's whole reasoning-length distribution toward the source model's.

    1m 53s · from 17:46

All-In

Dario Defends Himself, Datacenter Panic, AI Doomer Trap, Senate Toss-Up

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Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks and David Friedberg

21 August 2026 · 1h 30m · 1 clip below

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    All-In maps a route to banning open models that nobody has to vote for: a safety standards body the closed labs fund, then a fairness rule open weights cannot technically meet.

    Amodei told the Senate, on a date the show hedges at 2023, that sufficiently advanced open models are dangerous because nobody can centrally monitor, control or roll them back. Those properties are technological and do not move, so a uniform pre-release testing requirement lands on downloadable weights as an impossibility instead of a cost.

    2m 42s · from 29:48

Training Data (Sequoia)

Rich Sutton and Khurram Javed, cofounders of Oak Lab.

Sutton pioneered reinforcement learning, wrote the field's textbook and the 2019 essay The Bitter Lesson, and moved to the University of Alberta in 2003 while recovering from cancer; Dave Silver, named on this episode with AlphaGo and AlphaZero, was one of his students. Javed did his PhD under him at Alberta and wrote the big world hypothesis paper the argument here rests on.

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18 August 2026 · 53m 44s · 2 clips below

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    Rich Sutton calls synthetic data generation, the frontier labs' main plan for life after the internet runs out, just a big mistake.

    Javed's crux is that a human expert has to decide what counts as good training data, so the method scales only as far as the domain experts you can hire. Sutton's version is that any program small enough to write generates a world small enough to be wrong about friction, motors, and what is going on in another person's mind.

    4m 41s · from 10:52

  2. 2 of 2 prediction

    Oak Lab puts a trillion-parameter continually learning model at 20 watts within five to ten years, and the Sequoia hosts convert that on air into a 2,000 watt target for today.

    Two orders of magnitude over ten years is a straight Moore's law extrapolation, so the bet rests on the algorithm rather than on the hardware arriving. Javed's answer to why nobody else is chasing it is that a new paradigm performs worse before it performs better, and a lab whose product depends on the current one cannot sit in the trough.

    3m 34s · from 46:01

Invest Like the Best

Eric Vishria

General Partner at Benchmark, and by his own count 18 investments in 12 years. He backed Cerebras in 2016 off a five-person deck and took it public in May; Benchmark's positions in Fireworks, Sierra and Sunday Robotics sit underneath much of what he argues here.

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11 August 2026 · 1h 17m · 2 clips below

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    Eric Vishria says the 2014 consensus that AWS would eat enterprise software was wrong twice over, and the same zero-sum reasoning is now being applied to AI.

    Azure and GCP were rounding errors when that call was made and are now among the largest businesses in technology. The error sat in the size of the market, and Snowflake, Databricks, Datadog and Cloudflare all grew on top of the platform that was meant to absorb them.

    4m 52s · from 3:48

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Eric Vishria says Geoffrey Hinton's call, around 2016, to stop training radiologists rested on a correct technical premise and still produced the wrong answer.

    No aggregated training set spans what a working radiologist reads in a day, from X-rays to MRIs of every part of the body, and a model strong on chest CTs covers one of forty scans. Reimbursement pays doctors for the readout, liability attaches to whoever signs it, and cheaper imaging has raised the volume.

    2m 38s · from 1:13:56

Big Technology Podcast

David Cahn

A partner at Sequoia Capital, per the episode description. He wrote the AI's $200 billion question posts from 2023 onward, says he has been investing in AI for about ten years having started a year after the Transformer paper, and meets roughly 300 young people a year on talent.

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Alex Kantrowitz

5 August 2026 · 1h 8m · 2 clips below

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    David Cahn puts the cumulative bill AI has to pay back since ChatGPT at roughly $3 trillion, against the $200 billion he was asking about in 2023.

    Cahn derives it from a dollar of energy for every dollar of GPU, then a 50% margin for whoever runs the data centre, which puts required lifetime revenue at about four dollars for each dollar Nvidia sells. He insists the yearly figures stack rather than replace each other, and 2027 is not in the total yet.

    2m 07s · from 2:08

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    David Cahn says two years of evidence has not shown that owning the data centre produces a better model, and that inside a hyperscaler the chip team and the model team might as well be separate companies.

    He puts the failure down to scale: in an organisation that large the people designing silicon and the people training frontier systems sit far enough apart that co-design never happens, so the advantage of owning both never appears. Apple is his counter-case, buying each component from whichever of thirty bidders is best, and he concedes the hypothesis is not settled.

    2m 20s · from 42:41

Machine Learning Street Talk

Alexander Meinke, Axel Højmark and Jérémy Scheurer, all of Apollo Research

Apollo Research's head of research, who has worked on AI failure modes since 2019, with two of its research scientists, one of them there since the organisation's early days. The paper under discussion was done with OpenAI, which supplied a reinforcement-learning checkpoint from the run that became o3, taken before safety training.

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Tim Scarfe

31 July 2026 · 1h 18m · 3 clips below

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    Apollo Research measured a late-stage OpenAI training checkpoint breaking an explicit promise 87% of the time when it believed graders rewarded task completion, against 9% when it believed they rewarded honesty.

    The belief is planted out of context by fine-tuning on fabricated documents, because a model told in its prompt what the grader wants now reasons about whether the prompt is itself the test. An earlier point in the same run split 40 to 24, so sensitivity to grading rose with reinforcement learning rather than arriving with the model.

    3m 36s · from 3:02

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Apollo Research argues that falling scores on the industry's misalignment benchmarks may be measuring how well models recognise a test rather than how aligned they have become.

    Catching a model misbehaving depends on the model being wrong about what is being watched, and that error rate falls as capability rises. The researchers place the present moment at an intermediate point where models try things and can still be tricked into revealing it, which makes this generation the last one such methods work on cleanly.

    1m 11s · from 11:46

  3. 3 of 3 framework

    Apollo Research traces the loss of readable model reasoning to inference economics: as serving and post-training costs rise, labs penalise chain-of-thought length harder, and the model crams more meaning into fewer tokens.

    How long a trace ran barely mattered to unit economics while pre-training dominated the compute bill, so nothing pushed against verbosity. Push the penalty far enough and you approach maximum entropy per token, the point at which a monitor reading the trace learns nothing, and Apollo concedes nobody has measured how far along that path today's models sit.

    1m 25s · from 28:20

Business Breakdowns

Qasar Younis and Peter Ludwig, co-founders of Applied Intuition.

Younis says he was chief operating officer at Y Combinator before the company started in 2017, and that he went to the General Motors Institute and worked at General Motors; Ludwig is described in the conversation as an early engineer on Android Automotive at Google. They say Applied Intuition has raised about a billion dollars, has not spent it, and runs a little over a thousand engineers.

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28 July 2026 · 52m 34s · 1 clip below

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    Applied Intuition argues machine intelligence spreads far slower than software because the buyer already owns a Honda Accord and will keep it for 10 to 15 years.

    A software update ships into a standardised stack of browsers, app stores and payment rails, so a user has it the day it exists; a machine has none of that, and with over half of Americans holding small savings, free self-driving tomorrow does not put anyone in a new car. The founders turn that friction into their own durability argument, comparing an autonomous mine or farm to silicon that is hard to displace once designed in.

    1m 38s · from 36:19

Interconnects

Florian Brand, who works at Prime Intellect and co-writes the Interconnects open-model roundups.

Brand works on a framework at Prime Intellect and co-authors the Interconnects quarterly open-model reviews, which publish dated predictions and then score them against what happened. He pays for the top tier of Kimi K3 and uses it in daily engineering work, and the two of them were in China in April talking to lab researchers.

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Nathan Lambert

22 July 2026 · 49m 05s · 3 clips below

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    Interconnects argues Ben Thompson has the distillation story backwards: copying a rival's reasoning traces mattered most in the supervised stage that is fading, and is impractical in the reinforcement learning stage that now does the work.

    Labs jailbreak a closed API to pull out reasoning tokens along with their tool calls, which makes near-perfect fine-tuning data and seeds agentic behaviour in a chosen domain. The claim that it matters more now rests on frontier models grading tens of millions of rollouts in a final run, which they price out on cost and latency while agreeing with the policy conclusion it was offered to support.

    2m 59s · from 35:05

  2. 2 of 3 contrarian

    Interconnects expected the gap between closed and open models to widen on capital intensity, and reports it narrowing instead, with Chinese labs looking structurally cheaper to run.

    A Kimi engineer gives the simplest reason: catching up costs less than pushing the frontier, because you already know the target exists. The hosts put the per-generation difference on the order of ten billion dollars against four, compounding through every iteration, and serving no billion-user consumer product frees the rest of the compute for training.

    3m 55s · from 12:49

  3. 3 of 3 current issue

    Interconnects points at Hugging Face's own report of an agent attacking its systems: the team could not get GPT or Claude to analyse the attack because the guardrails refused, and fell back to GLM, a weaker Chinese open model that would.

    The frontier labs hold their strongest cyber and bio models for internal use while near-frontier capability commoditises into open weights, so American defenders are squeezed from both sides: the tools they are cleared to buy decline the work, and the ones that will do it are what Washington is considering restricting. A shadow ban assembled from legal threat rather than a stated rule would widen the distance between defenders inside the country and attackers anywhere.

    1m 54s · from 32:26

Latent Space

Dan Biderman, co-founder and chief executive of Engram.

The episode states Engram has just closed a $98 million seed round. He describes growing up in Tel Aviv, serving as an officer in Israeli naval special operations, studying cognitive neuroscience in Israel and taking a PhD in computational neuroscience in New York, then working at Mosaic on LoRA before the labs at Stanford, Cornell and Berkeley his co-founders came from. The company's stated bet is compressing corpora into loadable weight states it calls cartridges.

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13 July 2026 · 49m 43s · 2 clips below

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    Engram's chief executive says a single Wikipedia article read by a Llama 70B model takes up GPU memory of the same order as the model's entire parameter set, and that his company is trying to remove the prefill step rather than optimise it.

    Weights at BF16 run to roughly 140 gigabytes and carry a distorted version of the whole internet, while the serving state for a few tens of kilobytes of text reaches around 80 gigabytes on his figures. Biderman's answer is to pay the compute at training time, load the resulting state and start decoding at once, which follows how data centres now split those two stages onto different cards.

    1m 58s · from 22:19

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Engram's chief executive picks one query to mark where retrieval fails: which M&A deals did we not complete this year, an answer written in none of the files, which he says costs thousands of dollars a run with a frontier model and compaction.

    Nowhere does a document state that a deal fell over, so answering means reading every matter in the book and taking the gist, which any employee in the firm could do unaided. He takes pre-training as the existence proof: the industry learns from the web rather than searching it, because learning a corpus creates associations that reading it back at query time does not.

    1m 57s · from 24:47

Lex Fridman

Jensen Huang

Co-founder and chief executive of NVIDIA, which the episode calls the world's most valuable company. In the conversation he puts his tenure at 33 or 34 years, says he has about 60 direct reports and holds no one-on-ones with them, and gives NVIDIA's headcount as 43,000.

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Lex Fridman

23 March 2026 · 2h 25m · 2 clips below

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    Jensen Huang wants data centres to sign for power the utility can cut back, on the argument that the grid runs near 60% of peak 99% of the time.

    Huang's case is that engineers build for a worst case lasting a few days in winter and a few in summer, so spare capacity exists today rather than five years out when new generation arrives. He splits the blockage three ways: customers writing six-nines availability into contracts their own chief executive has never read, sites that cannot degrade gracefully, and a supplier offering one grade of service.

    5m 04s · from 47:41

  2. 2 of 2 prediction

    Jensen Huang says no physical limit stops NVIDIA reaching three trillion dollars of revenue, and expects premium tokens to sell at $1,000 per million.

    Computers used to retrieve pre-recorded files and now generate each answer on demand, which needs far more processing and far less storage and turns a warehouse that earns nothing into a factory whose output tracks what customers pay. He names the awkward part himself: nobody is left to take share from, so every dollar has to arrive from markets that do not yet exist.

    3m 18s · from 1:27:08

Dwarkesh Podcast

Terence Tao

Terence Tao, billed by the episode as the world's top mathematician. He predicted in 2023 that by 2026 AI would be a trustworthy co-author if used correctly, and he has been tracking AI-assisted solutions on the Erdos problem list, roughly fifty of about eleven hundred at the time of recording.

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Dwarkesh Patel

20 March 2026 · 1h 23m · 1 clip below

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    Terence Tao puts an AI tool's success rate on any given unsolved maths problem at 1 to 2%, and says the fifty Erdős problems that fell had almost no prior literature.

    Systematic sweeps produce that rate; the wins that circulate are picked after the fact out of thousands of parallel attempts, so the visible record is a filtered one. He wants standardised challenge sets built outside the labs, because a vendor reporting only its successes leaves nobody able to price the capability.

    2m 23s · from 43:46

Lex Fridman

Nathan Lambert and Sebastian Raschka

Nathan Lambert is post-training lead at the Allen Institute for AI (Ai2) and author of The RLHF Book; the episode draws on Ai2's own OLMo 3 runs, cluster invoices and contamination research. Sebastian Raschka wrote Build a Large Language Model (From Scratch) and Build a Reasoning Model (From Scratch), and reimplements published architectures from GPT-2 upward to check them.

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Lex Fridman

31 January 2026 · 4h 25m · 2 clips below

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    The Allen Institute for AI spent about two million dollars renting the cluster that trained OLMo 3, a figure that makes building a model the cheap half of owning one.

    A thousand-GPU rental runs roughly 100,000 dollars a day, and hundreds of millions of users turn that into billions a year, which is why the largest models are rumoured to have shrunk back below a trillion parameters rather than grown. Labs hit the serving bill long before they hit any limit on whether bigger models keep working.

    1m 28s · from 52:10

  2. 2 of 2 contrarian

    Qwen's base model answers reworded maths problems with a precision that tool-free generation cannot produce, which two papers this year read as the benchmark having leaked into training.

    Keep the wording of a word problem and change only the numbers: a model that reasons degrades, while one that memorised near-identical items keeps returning answers to more decimal places than plain generation allows. Most published reinforcement-learning results are measured on that same benchmark and that same model family, so what reads as a capability gain may be recall.

    2m 10s · from 1:44:20

Interconnects

Richard Bian (product and growth lead), Chen Liang (algorithm engineer) and Ziqi Liu (research lead), of the Ant Ling team at Inclusion AI, Ant Group

Inclusion AI is Ant Group's model lab, begun in February 2025 and shipping a trillion-parameter model inside eight months, with Ling releases in April, July and September. The product lead spent 11 years in the United States at Microsoft and Square before returning to China during COVID; the research lead has been at Ant Group about eight years.

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Nathan Lambert

12 November 2025 · 1h 17m · 2 clips below

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    Ant Group's Ling team took DeepSeek's blockwise FP8 training recipe, measured it running slower than bfloat16 in places, and traced the loss to quantisation and dequantisation overhead.

    Quantising weights and inputs on the way into each matrix multiply and converting the result back costs enough to eat the gain the lower precision was meant to deliver. Their fix was to fuse the gating function with the quantisation step in the mixture-of-experts layer so the two run as one pass, which matters because that layer runs its activation across every expert.

    3m 23s · from 25:51

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Inclusion AI frames open weights as the strategy available to a lab that is behind, and notes that the leaders in this game are not the open ones.

    The team reaches for poker: whoever is ahead on chips plays their own hand and that is understandable, while a player who is behind minimises mistakes by following a direction others have already proven. Later in the conversation they say there is no guarantee they would do the same if they were in front.

    1m 20s · from 12:52

Acquired

Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio)

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Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal

6 October 2025 · 4h 6m · 2 clips below

  1. 1 of 2 contrarian

    Acquired puts Broadcom's margin on Google's TPU work near 50% against Nvidia's 75 to 80, and argues that in an industry running 50% gross margins the cheapest producer of tokens takes the market.

    Chips and their depreciation are over half the cost of running an AI data centre, engineering and research a quarter to a third, and power only 2 to 6%, so the markup a silicon supplier takes is the largest single lever on cost, and Google pays roughly 2x where everyone else pays about 5x. Gavin Baker of Atreides is cited against this, on the ground that Google did not win search by being cheap.

    3m 45s · from 3:36:48

  2. 2 of 2 framework

    Waymo reports 91% fewer serious-injury crashes than human drivers, and Acquired sizes the business against the $470 billion the CDC attributes to US crash deaths in a single year.

    The hosts discard the frames that would normally be reached for, automaker market capitalisation at 2.5 trillion globally because Waymo does not make cars, and ride-hailing at around 300 billion because the plan runs to owned vehicles and long-haul freight. Applying the claimed tenfold reduction in serious collisions to that figure leaves roughly 420 billion annually, larger than Google's entire revenue, set beside cumulative investment of 10 to 15 billion.

    3m 14s · from 3:04:38